Tomorrow september 07. Australia will go to the polls and vote.

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    Sep 05, 2013 10:06 PM GMT
    Since 2007 we have had a left wing government in controled by the radical greens. All they have done for us is to once again put us in doubt, that we have to vote in a conservative coalition Liberal/Nationals to get us out of once again.

    Yes Australia it's time for a change.

    It's been nothing put failure after failure since Kevin 07, and all we have done is go backwards under our socialist left wing government.
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    Sep 05, 2013 10:09 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie saidSince 2007 we have had a left wing government in controled by the radical greens. All they have done for us is to once again put us in doubt, that we have to vote in a conservative coalition Liberal/Nationals to get us out of once again.

    Yes Australia it's time for a change.

    It's been nothing put failure after failure since Kevin 07, and all we have done is go backwards under our socialist left wing government.


    I kind of agree. After seeing Obama bring this country to his knees I wished I voted Romney. I wish I did not let my own personal gay agenda cloud my judgement.
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    Sep 05, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
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    Sep 05, 2013 11:36 PM GMT
    FuturePastPresent said


    I kind of agree. After seeing Obama bring this country to his knees I wished I voted Romney. I wish I did not let my own personal gay agenda cloud my judgement.


    Were you in a coma for the eight years Bush lite was president?
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    Sep 05, 2013 11:38 PM GMT
    turbobilly said
    FuturePastPresent said


    I kind of agree. After seeing Obama bring this country to his knees I wished I voted Romney. I wish I did not let my own personal gay agenda cloud my judgement.


    Were you in a coma for the eight years Bush lite was president?


    lol that makes 13 years of hell
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    Sep 05, 2013 11:39 PM GMT
    Yes, the Australian Labour Party is soooo left wing. I mean, the list of nationalised industries is huge, as is the number of companies which have been taken over by the workers. The welfare state now takes up most economic output and coal production has been shut down by those idiot Greens. icon_rolleyes.gif
  • BillandChuck

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    Sep 05, 2013 11:52 PM GMT
    If it's one versus the other, we'll take the Bush years back over the current slide of the nation. HOWEVER, that's a VERY NARROW margin, and what we really need is a centrist party to represent what appears to be the majority and out-vote the extreme left and the extreme right, which currently cause our nation to be treated much like a Pachinko ball and get nowhere (faster and faster). So in that vein, we support our brethren Down Under who yearn for (and apparently need) a change (and hope that your change isn't a continuing nightmare like the change our nation got in 2008!).
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    Sep 06, 2013 12:34 PM GMT
    God save us all because Tony Abbott is not the messiah!! This election is just a race to the bottom of how right wing and nasty we can be as a nation if this is what you want enjoy because as a gay man I fear what is about to happen to those in our community that are not white straight and Catholic.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Sep 06, 2013 1:35 PM GMT
    Damn straight. I am so tired of these idiots. Yes, that's right. A YOUNG person voting for a conservative government! Labor will just waste our money and lie directly to us. Even on the eve of the election, Rudd STILL says the same lies that have been debunked a million times before!

    I am so glad to be a contributing factor in his and Labor's demise. May they stay the opposition for many a year to come.
  • Onemoresummer

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    Sep 06, 2013 2:02 PM GMT
    How a gay man can vote against a party that wants to gives us equal rights is unbelievable.
    The economy is in great shape and yet people still complain.
    Good luck with the next 3 years of cuts and increased taxes.
    Oh and forget about the preserving the environment too.
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    Sep 06, 2013 2:08 PM GMT
    This is interesting...
    I was just saying that I know less than 5 people voting for the Coalition, and couldn't understand how the polls are predicting them to win. Now I find 3 of you here! I'm genuinely surprised.
    For those of you who aren't Australians, it is worth noting that our Liberal party are actually rather right wing - which is a bit confusing. Our other major party is Labour, which leans to the left.
    For what it's worth, I think both parties are pretty terrible - so for me, it's a matter of voting for the best of a bad bunch.
    The leadership shambles of the Labour Party are ridiculous - but with regard to the Liberals; the refusal to allow a conscience vote for sex marriage, the half baked broadband plan and the fact that Tony Abbott is the leader make them a totally unacceptable choice for me.
    If Turnbull was in charge of the Liberals, it would at lest be an option icon_smile.gif
    This website went viral a few days ago:
    http://dontbeafuckingidiot.com
    It's full of very strong language, but aligns closely with the reasons why I can't vote Liberal.

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    Sep 07, 2013 5:33 PM GMT
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    tru_blu_ozzie saidSince 2007 we have had a left wing government in controled by the radical greens. All they have done for us is to once again put us in doubt, that we have to vote in a conservative coalition Liberal/Nationals to get us out of once again.

    Yes Australia it's time for a change.

    It's been nothing put failure after failure since Kevin 07, and all we have done is go backwards under our socialist left wing government.


    I kind of agree. After seeing Obama bring this country to his knees I wished I voted Romney. I wish I did not let my own personal gay agenda cloud my judgement.


    It's nice to see someone being honest about their regrets. Thanks for posting this!
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    Sep 07, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
    Well the polling booths closed last night, and the counting well underway, and it looks as if we will have a new liberal coalition in power, that will once again pull us out of the black hole the left and those bloody Greens have once again put us into; bill now need to be paid, and belts tightened to do so; again.

    Reall what advanment did us Bona Fide Homosexyals see under our Left wing socalist Government Labor that had it's strings pulled by the communist Greens; really none at all, and all we all got was debt and disharmony.

    As we know Julia did not believe in Equal marriage, god, or the Crown so her head had to go. then we got Kevin back, who did an Obama and changed his mind on same sex marriage just to get the homosexual/bisexual votes; and all we got was debt.

    Now wouldn't it be a real pisser is us Bona Fide Homosexuals seen advancement under a concentration Government; after all Mother England did.
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    Sep 07, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
    Well it's my B'day this coming week, and I know you o'l wish me a happy B'day; so let the celebrating begin; and it's time to advance Australia once more. It was time for a change.

    Don't worry my brothers marriage equality will come our way; just not today; for now we need to get the bills paid.
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    Sep 07, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie saidDon't worry my brothers marriage equality will come our way; just not today; for now we need to get the bills paid.


    Why can't you do both at the same time?
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    Sep 07, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie saidWell it's my B'day this coming week, and I know you o'l wish me a happy B'day; so let the celebrating begin; and it's time to advance Australia once more. It was time for a change.

    Don't worry my brothers marriage equality will come our way; just not today; for now we need to get the bills paid.


    Agree with this. Its frustrating when gays overlook fundamental issues such as job oppurtunities over gay marriages where 90% of gays cannot even stay monogamous for more thank one week.
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    Sep 07, 2013 9:07 PM GMT
    I understand Rudd made a promise that he would set forth legislation paving the way to marriage equality..... given that Rudd lost..... what does this mean for marriage equality???

    Also, ummm this might just be a fleeting observation of mine....but what the fuck gives with u Australians and switching out ur prime minister's every couple of months??? Wasn't Julia PM like 6 months ago??? Then Rudd was.....now this new guy Abbot??? wtf guys. Calm down
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:43 AM GMT
    Import saidI understand Rudd made a promise that he would set forth legislation paving the way to marriage equality..... given that Rudd lost..... what does this mean for marriage equality???

    Also, ummm this might just be a fleeting observation of mine....but what the fuck gives with u Australians and switching out ur prime minister's every couple of months??? Wasn't Julia PM like 6 months ago??? Then Rudd was.....now this new guy Abbot??? wtf guys. Calm down


    Because our Labor Party is so juvenile and corrupt, that they think that if they cycle Prime Ministers, they can get our votes. The Coalition has never had to do that and is actually united.

    So NOW you will see ONE Prime Minister for at least the next term. I highly doubt Abbott will be booted out before or even after then.
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:49 AM GMT
    You are lucky the conservatives won icon_smile.gif Ryan
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    BillandChuck saidIf it's one versus the other, we'll take the Bush years back over the current slide of the nation. HOWEVER, that's a VERY NARROW margin, and what we really need is a centrist party to represent what appears to be the majority and out-vote the extreme left and the extreme right, which currently cause our nation to be treated much like a Pachinko ball and get nowhere (faster and faster). So in that vein, we support our brethren Down Under who yearn for (and apparently need) a change (and hope that your change isn't a continuing nightmare like the change our nation got in 2008!).

    Hilarious. There is no extreme left. There hasn't been a liberal President since LBJ. Carter, Clinton, Obama---all from the conservative wing of the party. Even Nixon was more liberal than these three.

    I was thinking the same thing. I hate to see the good name of the extreme left soiled by being associated with the likes of Obama. Or Gillard. Or even the Australian Greens (who are pretty traditional centre-left).
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:58 AM GMT
    ReluctantPromises saidWell since Abbott was elected doesn't that mean marriage equality and gay rights in your country is pretty much dead?


    Is that all you care about as a human? How about people finding work so they can pay bills? I am so proud of Australia and hope America does the same in 2014.
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    Sep 08, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
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    ReluctantPromises saidWell since Abbott was elected doesn't that mean marriage equality and gay rights in your country is pretty much dead?


    Is that all you care about as a human? How about people finding work so they can pay bills? I am so proud of Australia and hope America does the same in 2014.


    Yes it's a pretty huge thing I care about. The Democrats are getting elected again in 201 (midterms) and in the primary in 2016.


    After the Obama fiasco, there is no way a Liberal will be re-elected.
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    Sep 08, 2013 5:07 AM GMT
    ReluctantPromises said
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    BillandChuck saidIf it's one versus the other, we'll take the Bush years back over the current slide of the nation. HOWEVER, that's a VERY NARROW margin, and what we really need is a centrist party to represent what appears to be the majority and out-vote the extreme left and the extreme right, which currently cause our nation to be treated much like a Pachinko ball and get nowhere (faster and faster). So in that vein, we support our brethren Down Under who yearn for (and apparently need) a change (and hope that your change isn't a continuing nightmare like the change our nation got in 2008!).

    Hilarious. There is no extreme left. There hasn't been a liberal President since LBJ. Carter, Clinton, Obama---all from the conservative wing of the party. Even Nixon was more liberal than these three.

    I was thinking the same thing. I hate to see the good name of the extreme left soiled by being associated with the likes of Obama. Or Gillard. Or even the Australian Greens (who are pretty traditional centre-left).


    I assumed Obama was pretty center left. Very liberal.

    NOOO! Not by international standards anyway. He rescued the banks while hardly doing anything to make sure they'll behave better in future. When he rescued GM he made sure that the unions were forced to make huge concessions. His healthcare plan is a joke--basically it's just requiring that people buy health insurance (to be fair, there is going to be some better regulation of insurance companies) rather than providing universal, single-payer healthcare (the international standard). He's talking about privatising the Tennessee Valley Authority. He's continued wars overseas and started new ones. He has cracked down on whistle-blowers. He has done nothing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. He has allowed oil drilling to begin in the Arctic. He's talking with enthusiasm about having 100 years of natural gas (which would basically make fighting climate change impossible). I could go on. Whether you agree with these policies or not, I don't see how they can be considered anything other than right-wing. They may be to the left of the Republicans, but that doesn't make them liberal (although Americans use that word differently than most of the rest of the world).
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:16 PM GMT
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    tru_blu_ozzie saidSince 2007 we have had a left wing government in controled by the radical greens. All they have done for us is to once again put us in doubt, that we have to vote in a conservative coalition Liberal/Nationals to get us out of once again.

    Yes Australia it's time for a change.

    It's been nothing put failure after failure since Kevin 07, and all we have done is go backwards under our socialist left wing government.


    I kind of agree. After seeing Obama bring this country to his knees I wished I voted Romney. I wish I did not let my own personal gay agenda cloud my judgement.

    I am an Aussie working in the states , i disagree with you , look at how America was standing in 2008 and look at it now in 2013 , i don't call that being on his knees but more like standing up !!
    I am not into politics ,it is always a bad subject to get to , i am just saying what i see and how more confident the American people are nowadays .
    I have voted Yersteday , and hopefully i made the right choice ...lol...
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    Sep 08, 2013 4:33 PM GMT
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    tru_blu_ozzie saidDon't worry my brothers marriage equality will come our way; just not today; for now we need to get the bills paid.


    Why can't you do both at the same time?


    Exactly. All this, "We've got more important things to think about right now than gay rights", is just obfuscatory bullshit.