Fat intake for overall calories and symptoms

  • Artesin

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    Sep 06, 2013 3:11 AM GMT
    Here's the short version: I'm a vegetarian so in an effort to up my calorie intake to the 4K+ mark I up the fat intake by a large amount, most of it consisting of coconut milk, avocado, coconut and olive oils loaded up into shakes.

    Except when I went through a period where my dietary patterns changed I seemed to become sensitive to fat, to the point where the symptoms mirror a majority of those listed under fatty liver cirrhosis.

    I want to cut the symptoms, but at this point it would really limit any possible gains if I stop consuming those calories in this way.

    What do you think the maximum amount of fat is that someone should consume?

    What should I do? Any ideas?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Sep 06, 2013 3:18 AM GMT
    do you eat any fish or shell fish?
    have you tried peanut butter and jelly?
    have you tried bananas?
    have you tried pastas?
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    Sep 06, 2013 4:01 AM GMT
    Sounds like a vegetarian/vegan version of the paleo fad diet. If so it sounds difficult to me.

    Are you vegan? What about eggs?
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    Sep 06, 2013 11:36 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saiddo you eat any fish or shell fish?
    have you tried peanut butter and jelly?
    have you tried bananas?
    have you tried pastas?


    Vegetarians don't eat fish or shell fish since they're animals. I don't understand why people don't understand this concept.
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    Sep 06, 2013 11:51 AM GMT
    redsoxfan791 said
    AMoonHawk saiddo you eat any fish or shell fish?
    have you tried peanut butter and jelly?
    have you tried bananas?
    have you tried pastas?


    Vegetarians don't eat fish or shell fish since they're animals. I don't understand why people don't understand this concept.


    Because many self-proclaimed vegetarians openly state that they make exceptions for fish/shellfish.
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    Sep 07, 2013 12:58 AM GMT
    Myol said
    redsoxfan791 saidVegetarians don't eat fish or shell fish since they're animals. I don't understand why people don't understand this concept.

    Because many self-proclaimed vegetarians openly state that they make exceptions for fish/shellfish.

    When I was vegetarian I had people ask me why I didn't eat chicken. So I guess there are people out there saying they're vegetarian when all they really are is someone who doesn't eat red meat.

    Apparently they're not clear on the concept of what the vege means in vegetarian.
  • LJay

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    Sep 07, 2013 1:49 AM GMT
    redsoxfan791 said
    AMoonHawk saiddo you eat any fish or shell fish?
    have you tried peanut butter and jelly?
    have you tried bananas?
    have you tried pastas?


    Vegetarians don't eat fish or shell fish since they're animals. I don't understand why people don't understand this concept.


    I think people don't get the concept because there seem to be a number of shades of 'vegetarians' or at least individuals who have their own exceptions. The term vegan has made it a bbit easier, but it gets confusing when some people do not consider chicken to be "meat" in the same sense that beef is. It just get shard to keep track, especially for omnivores who, by nature, do not make a lot of distinctions about foods in their diet.

    OP: What are you trying to do? Eat gadillions of calories so that you will get bigger? That may not be the best course for you. My nutritionist recommends about 25-30% of total calories from fat. It sounds like you are going W A Y beyond that. Like A Moonhawk said, there are nut butters and fruits and pastas if you need more. There are also loads of whole grains and beans. Frankly, I think a lot of younger guys trying to bulk are doing themselves a long term disservice. Healthy and massive are not necessarily the same thing. Nor is massive the only attractive look out there.

    Maybe some of you guys who have dealt with this over a long time can speak to this?