1956 Chrysler PIMPerial

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    Sep 09, 2013 9:14 PM GMT
    I know I drone on and on about old Chryslers, and this one is a bit earlier than I'm generally interested in, but gawd is this nice. Look at the detail in the pics of all that chrome, especially at the bottom of the seats on the kick plates.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUNNING-RESTORATION-HEMI-ENGINE-1956-Chrylser-Imperial-Sedan-1K-MI-/360734245647?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item53fd6fc30f

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    Sep 09, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
    The 1957 Imperial limo's are stunning.
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    Sep 09, 2013 10:11 PM GMT
    One would never want to buy something similar with plans to restore. The costs would be ball bustingly expensive.
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    Sep 09, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    That's what I would call an "Eisenhower car" because I know he had one of those as his personal car. His wife was from Denver, and they kept her house there, and a car like that was in the garage. I had cousins living in the same block. When the Eisenhowers would come for a visit, I'm told the neighborhood was out in force to welcome them.

    Cool old car. That was a time when a car was a car. Beautifully built. No talk of mile per gallon. Gas was about 25 cents a gallon in the mid fifties, I'm told.
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    Sep 09, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI know I drone on and on about old Chryslers, and this one is a bit earlier than I'm generally interested in, but gawd is this nice. Look at the detail in the pics of all that chrome, especially at the bottom of the seats on the kick plates.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUNNING-RESTORATION-HEMI-ENGINE-1956-Chrylser-Imperial-Sedan-1K-MI-/360734245647?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item53fd6fc30f

    First of all, you douchebag, my family owned these exclusive cars. as you already know. It's what I grew up with.

    They are not PIMPerials, as you insist on calling them, but Imperials. Please show a little respect, and a modicum of dignity for once. I'm tired of your implied insults of me and my family, OK? We've discussed this before.

    This particular model was used in a custom open Ghia limousine configuration by New York City for many decades as its VIP parade vehicle. The one pictured here has the rare rear air conditioner, identified by the air scoops on the rear quarter fender.

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    Sep 09, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI know I drone on and on about old Chryslers, and this one is a bit earlier than I'm generally interested in, but gawd is this nice. Look at the detail in the pics of all that chrome, especially at the bottom of the seats on the kick plates.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STUNNING-RESTORATION-HEMI-ENGINE-1956-Chrylser-Imperial-Sedan-1K-MI-/360734245647?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item53fd6fc30f

    First of all, you douchebag, my family owned these exclusive cars. as you already know. It's what I grew up with.

    They are not PIMPerials, as you insist on calling them, but Imperials. Please show a little respect, and a modicum of dignity for once. I'm tired of your implied insults of me and my family, OK? We've discussed this before.

    This particular model was used in a custom open Ghia limousine configuration by New York City for many decades as its VIP parade vehicle. The one pictured here has the rare rear air conditioner, identified by the air scoops on the rear quarter fender.

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    "First of all, you douchebag"

    Although it's right around dinner icon_wink.gif time, I presume you're joking. Big Chryslers are all my grandfather had ... OK? We've discussed this before.

    But they could have cheaped out a bit starting in 1958 and bought PIMPalas instead.
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    Sep 09, 2013 11:33 PM GMT
    It's details such as the below that make this such a stunning automobile.

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    Sep 09, 2013 11:50 PM GMT
    What grace

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    Sep 10, 2013 12:30 AM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidThat's what I would call an "Eisenhower car" because I know he had one of those as his personal car. His wife was from Denver, and they kept her house there, and a car like that was in the garage. I had cousins living in the same block. When the Eisenhowers would come for a visit, I'm told the neighborhood was out in force to welcome them.

    Cool old car. That was a time when a car was a car. Beautifully built. No talk of mile per gallon. Gas was about 25 cents a gallon in the mid fifties, I'm told.


    I hope your garage is deep enough for this? I'm just glad (j/k) that I'm not making any money back here or that would have to be mine.

    I can't stop looking at these pics! And yeah, I'm so old that I do remember the Eisenhower family car.
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    Sep 10, 2013 1:36 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidBig Chryslers are all my grandfather had ... OK? We've discussed this before.

    But they could have cheaped out a bit starting in 1958 and bought PIMPalas instead.

    Your GRANDFATHER had? WTF does that mean?

    I was driven to school in Imperials every day. My Mother, for some reason I never understood, hated Cadillacs. It may have had something to do with her unfortunate 1930s Depression Era experience, when her family was destitute for a time, I never learned.

    Or maybe because the guy she dated, my future Father, always drove Imperials in the 1930s. All I know is that I never rode in anything else, except sometimes a Buick Roadmaster that my Father had in the early '50s. It was his city car, whose style & technology I think appealed to him.

    As for "PIMPalas" or any Chevrolet, my Mother wouldn't even get into one. All her life, whenever I went to buy a car, she always advised me against getting anything "common" and especially a Chevy. I never did.

    She did make an exception for Volkswagens for me, oddly enough. I think because they were the trendy fashion at the time, and something she viewed as frivolous toys. Let Bob indulge himself with what his friends are driving, I imagine she thought.

    And all my cars into my 40s were bought for me, along with their insurance and the gas to run them. The same for my younger sister. The only things I bought for myself were my motorcycles, which my parents refused to underwrite, and strongly disapproved.

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    Sep 10, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
    how gauche
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    Sep 10, 2013 1:56 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidBig Chryslers are all my grandfather had ... OK? We've discussed this before.

    But they could have cheaped out a bit starting in 1958 and bought PIMPalas instead.

    Your GRANDFATHER had? WTF does that mean?

    I was driven to school in Imperials every day. My Mother, for some reason I never understood, hated Cadillacs. It may have had something to do with her unfortunate 1930s Depression Era experience, when her family was destitute for a time, I never learned.

    Or maybe because the guy she dated, my future Father, always drove Imperials in the 1930s. All I know is that I never rode in anything else, except sometimes a Buick Roadmaster that my Father had in the early '50s. It was his city car, whose style & technology I think appealed to him.

    As for "PIMPalas" or any Chevrolet, my Mother wouldn't even get into one. All her life, whenever I went to buy a car, she always advised me against getting anything "common" and especially a Chevy. I never did.

    She did make an exception for Volkswagens for me, oddly enough. I think because they were the trendy fashion at the time, and something she viewed as frivolous toys. Let Bob indulge himself with what his friends are driving, I imagine she thought.

    And all my cars into my 40s were bought for me, along with their insurance and the gas to run them. The same for my younger sister. The only things I bought for myself were my motorcycles, which my parents refused to underwrite, and strongly disapproved.



    It means that big Chryslers were all that my grandfather had. Not always imperials ... sometimes new yorkers, but always Chryslers.

    I really really seriously really have no place to put this big beast, although I'd LOVE to have it. I'm in the gym and I can't my mind off of that car. I have no idea what it should be worth. Problem is that I don't care.
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    Sep 10, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
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    I really really seriously really have no place to put this big beast, although I'd LOVE to have it. I'm in the gym and I can't my mind off of that car. I have no idea what it should be worth. Problem is that I don't care.

    Naturally you should inspect it in person first. But when I saw that it had rear air conditioning, I knew that it was top-of-the-line for 1956 in every way. The rest is up to you.
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    Sep 10, 2013 2:50 AM GMT
    Beautiful car. So much elegance in the late 50s.
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    Sep 10, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
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    I really really seriously really have no place to put this big beast, although I'd LOVE to have it. I'm in the gym and I can't my mind off of that car. I have no idea what it should be worth. Problem is that I don't care.

    Naturally you should inspect it in person first. But when I saw that it had rear air conditioning, I knew that it was top-of-the-line for 1956 in every way. The rest is up to you.


    Were these available with dual air or was that just late 50s and early 60s?
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    Sep 10, 2013 6:40 AM GMT
    '64's were the shit, and are hell on wheels in a demolition derby icon_razz.gif


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    my dads car club started the "Imperial Heat" way back in the late 70's early 80's

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    Sep 10, 2013 4:35 PM GMT
    Bing & Kathryn Crosby had a '62 Imperial when they moved up to our neighborhood from Holmby Hills (L.A.) in 1964. Bob and I were having drinks at Kathryn's house a few weeks ago and I asked her if she remembered the car, but she didn't. I know they traded it in the mid 70's for a Rolls Silver Shadow at the Burlingame British car dealer. As a kid, I saw their Imperial in the back lot right after it was turned in. The salesman let me take it on a test drive (I was 16) and he didn't even accompany me. I remember it was a huge car - weird steering wheel and push buttons to shift gears. The exterior was beige, and the interior was a wine colored leather. Not many miles on it as I recall. The salesman said I could have it for $1200.00. (Wonder what it would be worth now?) I didn't buy it. In those years I was still riding my bike and had no hope or prayer of getting a car (A detriment to your education, young man - - absolutely not!). Anyway - it looked exactly like this but in beige.
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    Sep 10, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
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    I really really seriously really have no place to put this big beast, although I'd LOVE to have it. I'm in the gym and I can't my mind off of that car. I have no idea what it should be worth. Problem is that I don't care.

    Naturally you should inspect it in person first. But when I saw that it had rear air conditioning, I knew that it was top-of-the-line for 1956 in every way. The rest is up to you.


    Were these available with dual air or was that just late 50s and early 60s?

    Correct, the dual air option was dropped in the 1960s. In fact, the earliest AC cars had ONLY rear air, and the same was true for Cadillac. The early evaporator units were too big to integrate into the dashboard, so they went in the trunk, over the rear axle and below the rear window shelf.

    Chrysler used angled vents in the rear shelf. Cadillac had clear plastic tubes from the shelf (which quickly yellowed) to channel the air up to the roof liner. They supplied 4 roof vents you could control, over each outboard seating position, that included a ball turret, like you still have in airliners.

    I believe Ford initially hung their AC under the dash, like an after-market unit, but I really can't recall, I rarely rode in them. And some late '50s Chrysler products, like Dodge, did the same thing. Though if you got the AC option, it precluded the underdash record player, or vice versa - really!
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    Sep 10, 2013 5:03 PM GMT
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    I really really seriously really have no place to put this big beast, although I'd LOVE to have it. I'm in the gym and I can't my mind off of that car. I have no idea what it should be worth. Problem is that I don't care.

    Naturally you should inspect it in person first. But when I saw that it had rear air conditioning, I knew that it was top-of-the-line for 1956 in every way. The rest is up to you.


    Were these available with dual air or was that just late 50s and early 60s?

    Correct, the dual air option was dropped in the 1960s. In fact, the earliest AC cars had ONLY rear air, and the same was true for Cadillac. The early evaporator units were too big to integrate into the dashboard, so they went in the trunk, over the rear axle and below the rear window shelf.

    Chrysler used angled vents in the rear shelf. Cadillac had clear plastic tubes from the shelf (which quickly yellowed) to channel the air up to the roof liner. They supplied 4 roof vents you could control, over each outboard seating position, that included a ball turret, like you still have in airliners.

    I believe Ford initially hung their AC under the dash, like an after-market unit, but I really can't recall, I rarely rode in them. And some late '50s Chrysler products, like Dodge, did the same thing. Though if you got the AC option, it precluded the underdash record player, or vice versa - really!


    Highway HiFi

    The Mark II also had rear mounted air with the little side scoops just like the 56 imperial, but I also remember an underdash unit available on the Mk II. I was trying to figure out what the first year was that they used dual air in the imperial .... whether it was the all new 57 or later.

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    Sep 10, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    Jockbod48 saidBing & Kathryn Crosby had a '62 Imperial when they moved up to our neighborhood from Holmby Hills (L.A.) in 1964. Bob and I were having drinks at Kathryn's house a few weeks ago and I asked her if she remembered the car, but she didn't. I know they traded it in the mid 70's for a Rolls Silver Shadow at the Burlingame British car dealer. As a kid, I saw their Imperial in the back lot right after it was turned in. The salesman let me take it on a test drive (I was 16) and he didn't even accompany me. I remember it was a huge car - weird steering wheel and push buttons to shift gears. The exterior was beige, and the interior was a wine colored leather. Not many miles on it as I recall. The salesman said I could have it for $1200.00. (Wonder what it would be worth now?) I didn't buy it. In those years I was still riding my bike and had no hope or prayer of getting a car (A detriment to your education, young man - - absolutely not!). Anyway - it looked exactly like this but in beige.
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    I didn't realize that she was still with us.

    It's been a very long time since I've driven one of these, and if I remember correctly, I quite liked it. I don't think I'd much care for it in that color. Something this size needs a much darker color to look right.

    It's going to happen though, but I have to find the right one as it would cost me a bloody fortune to restore something like this. Plus, I want to buy it to drive it, not for it to sit in a restoration shop for four to five years.
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    Sep 11, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    The craftmanship of these cars were exquisite !
    Love the term " ash receiver" to indicate where the smoker should drop their ashes in ..icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 11, 2013 4:44 PM GMT
    neffa saidThe craftmanship of these cars were exquisite !
    Love the term " ash receiver" to indicate where the smoker should drop their ashes in ..icon_smile.gif


    Truly!

    And due to it being a four door post, it's not going to bring all that much money. I hope it goes to a good home and I wish that home could be mine.
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    Sep 11, 2013 5:10 PM GMT
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    That's from Art and Colour! He does some great chops!
    http://pinterest.com/artandcolour/my-photoshopped-car-design-renderings/

    I do some car photochops too. http://timmm55.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html
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    unckabasa saidimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcQqQeK0qn3MJUh-V-5egCC
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    That's from Art and Colour! He does some great chops!
    http://pinterest.com/artandcolour/my-photoshopped-car-design-renderings/

    I do some car photochops too. http://timmm55.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html


    Art and Color reminds me of Harley Earl.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Exner

    Given that in the early days this guy worked for Harley Earl as did Bill Mitchell) before he moved on to Chrysler to design the car in the OP.