A Person's Jupiter Sign Says What? (and National Charts of USA and Canada)

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    Sep 10, 2013 2:54 AM GMT
    [Taking Ancient Rome Seriously (Caesar Augustus and Virigl's Aeneas)]

    In all fairness, this thread will have to have reference materials:

    1. Aeneas is the founder of Rome in Virgil's Aenid.
    2. Aeneas' mother in Venus.
    3. Venus asks Jupiter (not the Sun) to help her son Aeneas.
    4. Although Juno does bad things to Aeneas, Jupiter has the upper hand over Juno.

    How to Find Your Jupiter Sign without Doing a Natal Chart

    http://www.cafeastrology.com/jupitersigntables.html


    A Lesson on Jupiter (and Saturn)

    http://www.astro.com/mtp/mtp4_e.htm

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    Christianity helps with self-discovery? Astrology is a tool of self-discovery.

    One can say one road to salvation before Christianity was the road paved by Cesar Augustus and Virgil. What does Jupiter say about you?

    Is your Jupiter placed well in your chart? Does it trine your Sun (as Jupiter "reports" to the Sun)? Is there a square or opposition between your Jupiter and your North Node, your Sun, your Ascendant, any of the other three angles.

    Is Jupiter in your house of sex (Hicon_cool.gif?

    Is Jupiter in your house of earning capacity (H2)?

    Is Jupiter in your house of short range transportation such that you need a big vehicle (H3)?

    Is He in your house of education and you breezed through grad/medical/law school (H9)?

    Is He conjunct Mercury affecting what you communicate?
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    Sep 11, 2013 1:54 AM GMT
    The Astrological Chart of the United States

    Notice:

    Jupiter is in Cancer (the U.S. has a Cancer Jupiter).
    Jupiter is exalted in Cancer.
    Jupiter and the Sun are in conjunction.

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    Sep 11, 2013 2:27 AM GMT
    Cancer Jupiter: Be Active for the Greater Good
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    Sep 11, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
    The national chart of Canada


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    Sep 11, 2013 2:35 AM GMT
    Pisces Jupiter: We Reach Divinity and Compassionate to Underdogs

    Jupiter opposition Mars

    Sun conjunct Uranus

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    Sep 11, 2013 2:38 AM GMT
    North Node (Reason for Being) in Leo - U.S.A.
    North Node (Reason for Being) in Virgo - Canada

    Both countries have Cancer as Sun sign.
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    Oct 01, 2013 5:31 PM GMT
    What about a country with a more complex timeline?
    Republic of China: January 21, 1912 (?)
    People's Republic of China: October 1, 1949 (Peking)

    Tsardom of Russia: January 16, 1547 (Moscow)
    Russian Empire: October 22, 1721 (St-Petersburg)
    (We'll ignore the Soviet Union)
    Russian Federation: December 26, 1991 (Moscow)

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    Oct 02, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    Kazachok saidWhat about a country with a more complex timeline?
    Republic of China: January 21, 1912 (?)
    People's Republic of China: October 1, 1949 (Peking)

    Tsardom of Russia: January 16, 1547 (Moscow)
    Russian Empire: October 22, 1721 (St-Petersburg)
    (We'll ignore the Soviet Union)
    Russian Federation: December 26, 1991 (Moscow)



    I'll ask around and see if I can find another source for national charts. The source I used didn't have as large of a selection as I, also, would have liked:

    http://www.astro.com/nat/natus1_e.htm

    A little extra from the website re: the U.S.:

    In the horoscope of the United States, Pluto, as it moves through Capricorn, is opposing the Sun in the natal chart, reflecting major and irrevocable changes on many levels. This aspect has occurred only once before in American history, during the period of the Civil War. Although it is not intrinsically an aspect of war, it challenges the deepest definitions of what constitutes nationhood, and raises many issues of autonomy and the way in which the government is structured and how much authority it may or may not exercise.The deeper issues underlying the Civil War concerned not only human rights, but also the autonomy of the individual states comprising the nation, and these issues may once again rise to the surface as new ways of defining the national identity are proposed.

    The national Sun in the 7th house also places great emphasis on the nature of the bonds America forms with other nations, and here too Pluto's transformative energy may require many changes and a re-evaluation of the ways and reasons why particular nations are sought as partners and others are excluded. This could potentially be a time of great renewal and a re-establishment of those high ideals on which the structure of the nation is based.

    Pluto, as it completes its transit through Capricorn, will also return to its own natal place: in other words, the United States is experiencing its Pluto return. This suggests the completion of a great cycle, and a cementing of the fundamental values on which the Constitution is built. There may also be a serious reappraisal of issues concerned with the environment, as Capricorn is an earthy sign, and the use or abuse of natural resources may become a cause for not only profound concern but also profound change and a more enlightened attitude. The enormous resources available to the United States are reflected by Pluto in the 2nd house of the national chart, and it is possible that these will be approached with greater respect and care than ever before.

    Whether or not you favour these changes personally, it would seem that a time has arrived when there is a great new opportunity to affirm the values and ideals of the original founding of the nation, applicable not only to government and to foreign relations, but also to the land itself and the resources inherent in it.
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    Oct 09, 2013 8:58 AM GMT
    we can only hope that our people will wake up and make all that happen.
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    Oct 13, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
    kevinap saidwe can only hope that our people will wake up and make all that happen.


    Beijing (AFP) - While US politicians grapple with how to reopen their shuttered government and avoid a potentially disastrous default on their debt, the world should consider 'de-Americanising', a commentary on China's official news agency said Sunday.

    "As US politicians of both political parties (fail to find a) viable deal to bring normality to the body politic they brag about, it is perhaps a good time for the befuddled world to start considering building a de-Americanised world," the commentary on state news agency Xinhua said.

    In a lengthy polemic against American hegemony since World War two, it added: "Such alarming days when the destinies of others are in the hands of a hypocritical nation have to be terminated.

    "A new world order should be put in place, according to which all nations, big or small, poor or rich, can have their key interests respected and protected on an equal footing."

    http://news.yahoo.com/americanised-world-needed-us-shutdown-china-media-053014967.html
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    Oct 13, 2013 5:11 PM GMT
    StephenOABC said
    kevinap saidwe can only hope that our people will wake up and make all that happen.


    Beijing (AFP) - While US politicians grapple with how to reopen their shuttered government and avoid a potentially disastrous default on their debt, the world should consider 'de-Americanising', a commentary on China's official news agency said Sunday.

    "As US politicians of both political parties (fail to find a) viable deal to bring normality to the body politic they brag about, it is perhaps a good time for the befuddled world to start considering building a de-Americanised world," the commentary on state news agency Xinhua said.

    In a lengthy polemic against American hegemony since World War two, it added: "Such alarming days when the destinies of others are in the hands of a hypocritical nation have to be terminated.

    "A new world order should be put in place, according to which all nations, big or small, poor or rich, can have their key interests respected and protected on an equal footing."

    http://news.yahoo.com/americanised-world-needed-us-shutdown-china-media-053014967.html

    That sounds completely reasonable. The world would be better off with several centres of power instead of one.
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    Oct 14, 2013 10:03 AM GMT
    doesn't seem to be the same world order that America is proposing.....that world order sounds quite beautiful....