Study: Gut bacteria appears to contribute to obesity

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    Sep 10, 2013 1:52 PM GMT
    "Researchers found pairs of human twins in which one was obese and the other lean. They transferred gut bacteria from these twins into mice and watched what happened. The mice with bacteria from fat twins grew fat; those that got bacteria from lean twins stayed lean."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/06/health/gut-bacteria-from-thin-humans-can-slim-mice-down.html?ref=science&_r=0
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    Sep 11, 2013 3:33 AM GMT
    Interesting article. Would you really eat someone else's shit just to get skinnier though?
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    Sep 11, 2013 3:48 AM GMT
    on a slightly related note, apparently the *fastest* way to get your own gut bacteria back to normal after you experience some gastrointestinal distress is to eat your own feces from before you had your GI troubles.
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    Sep 11, 2013 4:30 AM GMT
    That's not really quite what the study concluded. But it would take a lot more experiments to figure out exactly what was happening. And by the way, effects only happened if the mice were also fed the appropriate "skinny" or "fat" diet.

    I find it interesting that if these experiments had been done 50 years ago, (and actually, they were) the conclusion would have been that parasitic bacteria were "starving" the skinny mice. As a historic note, this is the sort of thing that lead to the practice of adding antibiotics to hog feed, back in the 70's.

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    Myol saidInteresting article. Would you really eat someone else's shit just to get skinnier though?


    ummm gut bacteria is not "shit", it's natural flora which aids in digestion. man, some people.


    One of the concerns discussed in some of the scientific press is that a whole new industry of quacks will spring up, offering to implant adonis shit into fat people, with no scientific justification. Of course there will be some. And I suppose it could be a whole new gay fetish. But in which way, I wonder?
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    somersault said
    Myol saidInteresting article. Would you really eat someone else's shit just to get skinnier though?


    ummm gut bacteria is not "shit", it's natural flora which aids in digestion. man, some people.



    Try READING the article. Also, try getting a sense of humor as well.

    "They gave the twins’ fecal bacteria to mice that were born and reared in a sterile environment and had no bacteria of their own as a result."

    "Mice housed together eat one another’s droppings, so the mice in the cage naturally end up sharing gut bacteria."
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    Sep 11, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
    Myol said
    somersault said
    Myol saidInteresting article. Would you really eat someone else's shit just to get skinnier though?


    ummm gut bacteria is not "shit", it's natural flora which aids in digestion. man, some people.



    Try READING the article. Also, try getting a sense of humor as well.

    "They gave the twins’ fecal bacteria to mice that were born and reared in a sterile environment and had no bacteria of their own as a result."

    "Mice housed together eat one another’s droppings, so the mice in the cage naturally end up sharing gut bacteria."


    That was just the easiest way to get the gut bacteria.. if they Ever did this for human it would Not involve feces
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    Sep 11, 2013 11:00 PM GMT
    There is a company that sends you a test tube for your fecal sample and they analyze the sample but it can take up to 6 months. The cost is high $99.00 US but I guess there is a lot of analysis to be done. I was going to do this to find out what the good flora versus bad is in my gut so I know if I need to eat even healthier or if I can eat any differently.

    http://americangut.org/
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    Sep 11, 2013 11:14 PM GMT
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    That was just the easiest way to get the gut bacteria.. if they Ever did this for human it would Not involve feces


    Sorry, wrong. That's exactly how it is done. Fecal transplants have been used as a treatment for various types of colitis since at least 1958. There are good reasons for it, including: 1) nobody really knows which bacteria are responsible for the effects and 2) taking the bacteria out of the gut and growing them in the lab would change them into completely different strains that might have no activity. The reasons for this are a bit too long to go into here.

    bradomo saidThere is a company that sends you a test tube for your fecal sample and they analyze the sample but it can take up to 6 months. The cost is high $99.00 US but I guess there is a lot of analysis to be done. I was going to do this to find out what the good flora versus bad is in my gut so I know if I need to eat even healthier or if I can eat any differently.

    http://americangut.org/


    Actually, I find that a suspiciously low price for what they are claiming to do. But maybe it is subsidized by some kind of grant.