Homosexuality & Pedophilia: Why Are They Always Lumped Together?

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    Sep 14, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
    After reading a thread on here just now, and remembering a discussion I was having with my brother I wanted to ask this question - why is homosexuality and pedophilia always lumped together?

    It seems that the main argument (at least from my brother) was that "if they allow gay marriage, liberals approving of pedophilia is next!" He then suggested a group that he claims was supported by GLAAD (I can't remember the pedophile group's name, but when I looked it up GLAAD was opposed to it).

    I did some research into the people trying to approve of pedophilia (what is wrong with people) and they're claiming that it's a sexual orientation. So is it safe to assume that heterosexuals (the bigoted ones) just think that any other orientation besides heterosexuality is just some kind of depraved lust for sex/some kind of mental disorder and hence they put homosexuality and pedophilia in the same boat - especially after pedophiles fight for acceptance claiming that it's a sexual orientation.
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    Sep 14, 2013 8:30 PM GMT
    Because it's a dishonest but emotionally gripping argument - and it makes me very angry. Anti gay people will always link the two in order to make people fearful and it's a very evil thing to do.
    Pedophilia *is* an orientation but not one that any sane man should try to satisfy. Many people are born with unhealthy desires to hurt other people (or themselves) that they did not ask for but that does not mean they are entitled to act on them.
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    Sep 14, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidBecause it's a dishonest but emotionally gripping argument - and it makes me very angry. Anti gay people will always link the two in order to make people fearful and it's a very evil thing to do.
    Pedophilia *is* an orientation but not one that any sane man should try to satisfy. Many people are born with unhealthy desires to hurt other people (or themselves) that they did not ask for but that does not mean they are entitled to act on them.


    Well another way that I see it is that when gay guys have sex, it's consenting with people who are able to make that decision. There's no sane way someone can justify that a 7 year old can give consent to having sex with a 50 year old man.
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    Sep 14, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
    Right - also, I'll state the obvious and say pedophilia is a heterosexual thing too.
    The "slippery slope" argument makes no sense in any situation. There is no reason to believe that if homosexuals get their rights, pedophiliacs will get them also.
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    Sep 14, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
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    It seems that the main argument (at least from my brother) was that "if they allow gay marriage, liberals approving of pedophilia is next!" He then suggested a group that he claims was supported by GLAAD (I can't remember the pedophile group's name, but when I looked it up GLAAD was opposed to it).

    I'm privately emailing you a possible name for the group, in answer to your question. I won't even post their vile name here.

    I remember a Seattle gay BBS to which I once belonged, whose policy was if you even posted their name your membership account was terminated. That's how much many gays hate them, a group that has done nothing but harm to the gay rights movement and to the reputations of individual gays. Not to mention serious harm to the young boys they prey upon.
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    Sep 14, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    Homosexuality & Pedophilia: Why Are They Always Lumped Together?

    On my street when I was a kid, the only gay person (that we were all aware of, anyway) was also a known pedophile, he'd go after anything that was warm. He was on trial for molesting a kid, I do not know for sure if he was convicted or not. If this man is the only example of a gay person that you knew (as was the case for me), then you might grow up believing the two are linked. Before learning to accept myself as gay, and began reaching out to other gay people, I was guilty of linking the two.
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    Sep 15, 2013 3:42 AM GMT
    OneSongGlory saidwhy is homosexuality and pedophilia always lumped together?

    We can thank the Catholic church for a large part of that. For centuries the Catholic church has looked the other way when one of their priests has been caught molesting little boys. If the parents raise a fuss they just transfer the priest to another parish far away.
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    Sep 15, 2013 5:16 AM GMT
    I wouldn't say that they're ALWAYS lumped together.
    But, it's a potent lie for ignorant people who hate us, to use against us.
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    Sep 15, 2013 12:13 PM GMT
    OP, let me first express my sympathies for your being stuck with a brother who holds attitudes like that. That must really suck. In fact I know it does. One of my siblings got roped into a Christian Right "church" so this is all very familiar.

    Homophobes also love to trot out the argument that we resent having not been born female, so being sexual with men is that frustration being acted out. (Huh???) By extension we all love to dress in drag - that is, when we're not decked out in leather gear. How anybody could go through life changing clothes three or more times a day, in between child molestations and hitting on straight men, is beyond me. But in those people's twisted little minds that's what we do. Their morbid fascination is bizarre. All you need is one look at any given newspaper or radio-station blog and you see them projecting it. As soon as the news hits of a man's getting convicted for just about anything they're jostling for being the first to make "Bubba in prison" jokes. When all's said and done who are the real pervs?
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    Sep 15, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
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    Blakes7 saidHomosexuality & Pedophilia: Why Are They Always Lumped Together?

    On my street when I was a kid, the only gay person (that we were all aware of, anyway) was also a known pedophile, he'd go after anything that was warm. He was on trial for molesting a kid, I do not know for sure if he was convicted or not. If this man is the only example of a gay person that you knew (as was the case for me), then you might grow up believing the two are linked. Before learning to accept myself as gay, and began reaching out to other gay people, I was guilty of linking the two.

    That explains a lot.



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    Sep 15, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    I believe pedophiles have a sexual mutation like homosexuals, although the mutant gene acts on a different target, for that I sympathize with pedophile's, even the ones who act on their urges, which, while horrific and sick, has to be understood rather than condemned. I do not believe they have a choice in who they are attracted to, and temptation does get the better of weaker souls.

    The difference is, homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody and can be accommodated and assimilated into mainstream human society today now that we have sexual health care and proper contraceptives to prevent the spread of diseases among the gay population.

    Pedophilia, however will and should NEVER be accepted by society in a million years, however we should not judge those who are cursed with this perversion, rather we should accept it's mutation cannot be cured, and instead take the appropriate steps to find ways to minimize their libidos and help them live healthy normal lives that will probably always be completely asexual, I truly feel sorry for the lives that they have been given, at least there is hope for homosexuals in finding love and marriage and family.
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    Sep 15, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
    i2ci2i saidI believe pedophiles have a sexual mutation like homosexuals, although the mutant gene acts on a different target, for that I sympathize with pedophile's, even the ones who act on their urges, which, while horrific and sick, has to be understood rather than condemned. I do not believe they have a choice in who they are attracted to, and temptation does get the better of weaker souls.

    The difference is, homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody and can be accommodated and assimilated into mainstream human society today now that we have sexual health care and proper contraceptives to prevent the spread of diseases among the gay population.

    Pedophilia, however will and should NEVER be accepted by society in a million years, however we should not judge those who are cursed with this perversion, rather we should accept it's mutation cannot be cured, and instead take the appropriate steps to find ways to minimize their libidos and help them live healthy normal lives that will probably always be completely asexual, I truly feel sorry for the lives that they have been given, at least there is hope for homosexuals in finding love and marriage and family.


    +1. But it's so hard to get people to understand this.
    I'll google a bit... for the next few hours
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    Sep 15, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
    i2ci2i saidI believe pedophiles have a sexual mutation like homosexuals, although the mutant gene acts on a different target, for that I sympathize with pedophile's, even the ones who act on their urges, which, while horrific and sick, has to be understood rather than condemned. I do not believe they have a choice in who they are attracted to, and temptation does get the better of weaker souls.

    The difference is, homosexuality doesn't hurt anybody and can be accommodated and assimilated into mainstream human society today now that we have sexual health care and proper contraceptives to prevent the spread of diseases among the gay population.

    Pedophilia, however will and should NEVER be accepted by society in a million years, however we should not judge those who are cursed with this perversion, rather we should accept it's mutation cannot be cured, and instead take the appropriate steps to find ways to minimize their libidos and help them live healthy normal lives that will probably always be completely asexual, I truly feel sorry for the lives that they have been given, at least there is hope for homosexuals in finding love and marriage and family.

    Hear hear!
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    Sep 15, 2013 4:06 PM GMT
    This is interesting:

    Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
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    Sep 15, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
    OneSongGlory saidAfter reading a thread on here just now, and remembering a discussion I was having with my brother I wanted to ask this question - why is homosexuality and pedophilia always lumped together?

    It seems that the main argument (at least from my brother) was that "if they allow gay marriage, liberals approving of pedophilia is next!" He then suggested a group that he claims was supported by GLAAD (I can't remember the pedophile group's name, but when I looked it up GLAAD was opposed to it).

    I did some research into the people trying to approve of pedophilia (what is wrong with people) and they're claiming that it's a sexual orientation. So is it safe to assume that heterosexuals (the bigoted ones) just think that any other orientation besides heterosexuality is just some kind of depraved lust for sex/some kind of mental disorder and hence they put homosexuality and pedophilia in the same boat - especially after pedophiles fight for acceptance claiming that it's a sexual orientation.


    Actually GLAAD was instrumental in getting them kicked OUT!

    The first documented opposition from LGBT organizations to "-----" occurred in the conference that organized the first gay march on Washington in 1979.[18]
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    Sep 15, 2013 8:35 PM GMT
    Weird, I never link homosexuals with pedophilia. The catholic church? Oh yeah, them I link with kid sex always.
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    Sep 28, 2013 8:43 AM GMT
    We only have to look at the r.c. church to have some understanding that homosexuality and pedophilia are not related. Do gays like to look at little boys as sex objects? Hardly. I don't find anything sexually attractive like little boys. I'm sure you feel the same.
    On the other hand, catholic priests have to repress any sexual desires, but they can only hold back for so long. When they can no longer suppress their sexual desires, they choose the nearest thing available--little boys. After all, they're in a trustworthy position; they're teachers, mentors, advisers, leaders, etc., and little boys trust them implicitly and would never tell on them. The whole thing is tragic, but the r.c. church practically promotes pedophilia.