When to Cut Down

  • Joeyphx444

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    Sep 15, 2013 11:46 PM GMT
    When do you start cutting after bulking? I have been seriously bulking up for a good few months now. I feel I can go a little more and gain more weight. I figure I will finish my current routine (2 more weeks) then 1 week off, then one more stretch of bulking (6-8 weeks)

    I read that when you cut, you add cardio, lower caloric intake slightly and don't alter your heavy lifting
    Is this right?
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    Sep 15, 2013 11:59 PM GMT
    What's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?
  • Bunjamon

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    Sep 16, 2013 12:44 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWhat's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?


    I think from the nature of the question, we can assume that he wants to be lean.
  • neosyllogy

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    Sep 16, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    I don't really separate into formal cut/bulk phases, BUT in general people CUT when they want to look lean. And they bulk when they're less concerned about how they look.

    For some people that means cutting when summer starts. For some people when they start seeing someone new. For some it's based on their job. For some it's when they're just not happy with their bf% anymore and want to get into a comfortable range (for them). (For some it might be before/as soon as they see stretch marks.)

    There are various arguments about what's "optimal", but unless you're going pro it's generally a good idea to just cut when you feel like you've made some gains and want to be leaner. icon_cool.gif
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    Sep 16, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
    Bunjamon said
    xrichx saidWhat's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?


    I think from the nature of the question, we can assume that he wants to be lean.
    Well, I was thinking more of long term goals. I wish most guys would understand that bulking/cutting isn't the only way to gain muscle mass. Err, I mean lean muscle mass.
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    Sep 16, 2013 2:12 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    Bunjamon said
    xrichx saidWhat's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?


    I think from the nature of the question, we can assume that he wants to be lean.
    Well, I was thinking more of long term goals. I wish most guys would understand that bulking/cutting isn't the only way to gain muscle mass. Err, I mean lean muscle mass.


    Sigh. I wish I could bulk. I eat and eat and eat like a horse and can barely gain a pound. I did have a breakthrough about a month ago and was able to put on a whole three (3) pounds! Yay!
  • Joeyphx444

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    Sep 16, 2013 6:05 AM GMT
    GAMRican said
    xrichx said
    Bunjamon said
    xrichx saidWhat's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?


    I think from the nature of the question, we can assume that he wants to be lean.
    Well, I was thinking more of long term goals. I wish most guys would understand that bulking/cutting isn't the only way to gain muscle mass. Err, I mean lean muscle mass.


    Sigh. I wish I could bulk. I eat and eat and eat like a horse and can barely gain a pound. I did have a breakthrough about a month ago and was able to put on a whole three (3) pounds! Yay!


    Well that's where I am at, so my bulking sessions tend to me longer and harder than if I were to lean down, I can lean down without much effort to be honest. I have done it by accident 3 times or so icon_razz.gif

    xrichx--I don't wanna be "fat" but I think I am hardly close to even being chubby
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    Sep 18, 2013 9:16 PM GMT
    Never. That's the point of bulking up who wants to be scrawny.
  • neosyllogy

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    Sep 18, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    GAMRican said
    xrichx said
    Bunjamon said
    xrichx saidWhat's your goal? Do you want to be fat? Or do you want to be lean?


    I think from the nature of the question, we can assume that he wants to be lean.
    Well, I was thinking more of long term goals. I wish most guys would understand that bulking/cutting isn't the only way to gain muscle mass. Err, I mean lean muscle mass.


    Sigh. I wish I could bulk. I eat and eat and eat like a horse and can barely gain a pound. I did have a breakthrough about a month ago and was able to put on a whole three (3) pounds! Yay!


    Gotta calorie count. Just like people who have trouble losing weight.
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    Sep 18, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
    Joeyphx444 said
    Well that's where I am at, so my bulking sessions tend to me longer and harder than if I were to lean down, I can lean down without much effort to be honest. I have done it by accident 3 times or so icon_razz.gif

    xrichx--I don't wanna be "fat" but I think I am hardly close to even being chubby
    Well, the problem with bulking/cutting is that if you bulk too much, you get fat. If you cut too much, you're back where you started. Just eat lean and consistent all year round. It's a lot easier to track your progress and make changes on the fly. Instead of figuring out what went wrong after your bulk or cut cycle is over.

    Yo-yo dieting is counter productive to most guys. You want to gradually "train" your body to retain the lean mass you've gained over time. You should probably talk to a sports nutritionist to see what type of food/calories requirements are optimal for you.