2014 Cadillac CTS vSport

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    Sep 17, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
    Starting to sound like it's a pretty terrific car so I can't wait to see the 600+ hp CTS V that we'll probably see at the 2014 NAIAS

  • rnch

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    Sep 17, 2013 4:54 PM GMT
    The powertrain appears to be fantastic.

    The styling, with it's curious mix of curves and a protractor's right angles, still puzzles me and leaves me "meh".





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    rnch saidThe powertrain appears to be fantastic.

    The styling, with it's curious mix of curves and a protractor's right angles, still puzzles me and leaves me "meh".



    To a Yota fan it had better leave you "meh". When we start appealing to Yota buyers, we (the home team) have a very big problem.

    When E, 5 and A6/A7 shoppers cross shop then we (the home team) are making progress.

    I have only driven the ATS, but not yet the CTS so I don't yet have an opinion.

    I much prefer a V8 so I'm waiting for the first shipment of Chevy SSs before I really start getting serious about another car.
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    Sep 18, 2013 4:23 PM GMT
    Thanks for the link. I'm really REALLY glad Cadillac is making climbs back to Standard of the World.

    When I was growing up, the best cars were always domestic. Cadillac and Lincoln...and often cousins like Thunderbird, Toronado, Riviera and Corvette. My dad was into cars and owned a variety of them, plus my mom liked sports cars and usually drove a Mustang or Camaro. I was very lucky to have car enthusiasts for parents.

    But sadly, many cars built during much of my adulthood have all the appeal of kitchen appliances. Even the ones generally regarded as the best of them....the Mercedes S550 and Lexus LS460...leave me feeling cold.

    Good to see GM is bringing back love of the automobile. Americans can point to Cadillac because it gives us a boost to our national pride. Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII, and then we paid to help rebuild their countries. Yet, when it was our time, German and Japanese cars flood our highways. What does this say about our generation? This has to make us wonder if we are a bunch a losers for letting that happen. But this new CTS...the WWII vets are looking down on that car, and see this young generation of car designers have inherited their "Give 'em Hell" DNA. Thank you Cadillac!
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    Tangiers saidThanks for the link. I'm really REALLY glad Cadillac is making climbs back to Standard of the World.

    When I was growing up, the best cars were always domestic. Cadillac and Lincoln...and often cousins like Thunderbird, Toronado, Riviera and Corvette. My dad was into cars and owned a variety of them, plus my mom liked sports cars and usually drove a Mustang or Camaro. I was very lucky to have car enthusiasts for parents.

    But sadly, many cars built during much of my adulthood have all the appeal of kitchen appliances. Even the ones generally regarded as the best of them....the Mercedes S550 and Lexus LS460...leave me feeling cold.

    Good to see GM is bringing back love of the automobile. Americans can point to Cadillac because it gives us a boost to our national pride. Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII, and then we paid to help rebuild their countries. Yet, when it was our time, German and Japanese cars flood our highways. What does this say about our generation? This has to make us wonder if we are a bunch a losers for letting that happen. But this new CTS...the WWII vets are looking down on that car, and see this young generation of car designers have inherited their "Give 'em Hell" DNA. Thank you Cadillac!


    "Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_of_democracy

    Union or not, and I'm no fan of the UAW, but I would rather it be our unions versus their unions so yes, I support the home team and buy frequently from the American domiciled big three. Yes, I've heard all of the excuses ... all the rationalizations, but my money goes to Detroit.

    Objectively, I think Cadillac stands a very good chance of truly being able to complete with the German big three. This time I thinks it's going to happen. They won't outsell MB though because MB is a full line manufacture from A-class on up. GM has Chevy to do A and B class cars, but from entry level luxury to the top, I think we'll see Cadillac compete with the best.

    I do wish Sergio would give a go with a truly state of the art Imperial, but that's not all that likely. And Lincoln will stay more of a competitor with the second tier luxury brands from Japan Infiniti, Acura, Lexis and now Korea .
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    Sep 18, 2013 6:22 PM GMT
    "Hidden/Deleted Member"?

    Whom did Freedom pizz off/insult THIS time icon_question.gif







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    Sep 18, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    rnch said"Hidden/Deleted Member"?

    Whom did Freedom pizz off/insult THIS time icon_question.gif


    Hopefully you!

    Why?
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    Sep 18, 2013 7:25 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    rnch said"Hidden/Deleted Member"?

    Whom did Freedom pizz off/insult THIS time icon_question.gif


    Hopefully you!

    Why?





    All this morning your username "freedomisntfree" was replaced by "Hidden/Deleted Member".

    Now it is back to the usual.
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    Sep 18, 2013 7:35 PM GMT
    rnch said
    freedomisntfree said
    rnch said"Hidden/Deleted Member"?

    Whom did Freedom pizz off/insult THIS time icon_question.gif


    Hopefully you!

    Why?





    All this morning your username "freedomisntfree" was replaced by "Hidden/Deleted Member".

    Now it is back to the usual.


    Yeah, I know. I turned it off. I'll get an update finished one of these days if the phone stops ringing. But if the phone truly stops, then no more cars.
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    Tangiers saidThanks for the link. I'm really REALLY glad Cadillac is making climbs back to Standard of the World.

    When I was growing up, the best cars were always domestic. Cadillac and Lincoln...and often cousins like Thunderbird, Toronado, Riviera and Corvette. My dad was into cars and owned a variety of them, plus my mom liked sports cars and usually drove a Mustang or Camaro. I was very lucky to have car enthusiasts for parents.

    But sadly, many cars built during much of my adulthood have all the appeal of kitchen appliances. Even the ones generally regarded as the best of them....the Mercedes S550 and Lexus LS460...leave me feeling cold.

    Good to see GM is bringing back love of the automobile. Americans can point to Cadillac because it gives us a boost to our national pride. Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII, and then we paid to help rebuild their countries. Yet, when it was our time, German and Japanese cars flood our highways. What does this say about our generation? This has to make us wonder if we are a bunch a losers for letting that happen. But this new CTS...the WWII vets are looking down on that car, and see this young generation of car designers have inherited their "Give 'em Hell" DNA. Thank you Cadillac!


    "Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_of_democracy

    Union or not, and I'm no fan of the UAW, but I would rather it be our unions versus their unions so yes, I support the home team and buy frequently from the American domiciled big three. Yes, I've heard all of the excuses ... all the rationalizations, but my money goes to Detroit.

    Objectively, I think Cadillac stands a very good chance of truly being able to complete with the German big three. This time I thinks it's going to happen. They won't outsell MB though because MB is a full line manufacture from A-class on up. GM has Chevy to do A and B class cars, but from entry level luxury to the top, I think we'll see Cadillac compete with the best.

    I do wish Sergio would give a go with a truly state of the art Imperial, but that's not all that likely. And Lincoln will stay more of a competitor with the second tier luxury brands from Japan Infiniti, Acura, Lexis and now Korea .


    I agree. Just comparing the ATS to the current CTS, I can see how far Cadillac has stepped up their game. The ATS is smaller and has a lower MSRP, but has better suspension, build quality and seats, to name a few. Even attention to small details, like the view over the hood feels more luxurious in the ATS.

    When Chevrolet introduced a $40k Impala and the automotive press went gaga over it...that was a clue Cadillac is ready to move on to bigger things.


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    Sep 19, 2013 6:12 AM GMT
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    freedomisntfree said
    Tangiers saidThanks for the link. I'm really REALLY glad Cadillac is making climbs back to Standard of the World.

    When I was growing up, the best cars were always domestic. Cadillac and Lincoln...and often cousins like Thunderbird, Toronado, Riviera and Corvette. My dad was into cars and owned a variety of them, plus my mom liked sports cars and usually drove a Mustang or Camaro. I was very lucky to have car enthusiasts for parents.

    But sadly, many cars built during much of my adulthood have all the appeal of kitchen appliances. Even the ones generally regarded as the best of them....the Mercedes S550 and Lexus LS460...leave me feeling cold.

    Good to see GM is bringing back love of the automobile. Americans can point to Cadillac because it gives us a boost to our national pride. Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII, and then we paid to help rebuild their countries. Yet, when it was our time, German and Japanese cars flood our highways. What does this say about our generation? This has to make us wonder if we are a bunch a losers for letting that happen. But this new CTS...the WWII vets are looking down on that car, and see this young generation of car designers have inherited their "Give 'em Hell" DNA. Thank you Cadillac!


    "Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_of_democracy

    Union or not, and I'm no fan of the UAW, but I would rather it be our unions versus their unions so yes, I support the home team and buy frequently from the American domiciled big three. Yes, I've heard all of the excuses ... all the rationalizations, but my money goes to Detroit.

    Objectively, I think Cadillac stands a very good chance of truly being able to complete with the German big three. This time I thinks it's going to happen. They won't outsell MB though because MB is a full line manufacture from A-class on up. GM has Chevy to do A and B class cars, but from entry level luxury to the top, I think we'll see Cadillac compete with the best.

    I do wish Sergio would give a go with a truly state of the art Imperial, but that's not all that likely. And Lincoln will stay more of a competitor with the second tier luxury brands from Japan Infiniti, Acura, Lexis and now Korea .


    I agree. Just comparing the ATS to the current CTS, I can see how far Cadillac has stepped up their game. The ATS is smaller and has a lower MSRP, but has better suspension, build quality and seats, to name a few. Even attention to small details, like the view over the hood feels more luxurious in the ATS.

    When Chevrolet introduced a $40k Impala and the automotive press went gaga over it...that was a clue Cadillac is ready to move on to bigger things.




    Cadillac needs to move up and out of the way a bit to make room for Buick. Buick is very likely to get a new Riv off of the Omega platform and a new rear wheel drive performance car off of Alpha. They should do a large hybrid rear wheel drive sedan and call it .... wait ..... the Electra

    There will also be a sub Alpha rear wheel drive platform for Chevy that will spawn a small two seat rear wheel drive Miata / BRZ / FRS type roadster and coupe.

    It's getting real crowed at the General with new product.
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    Sep 19, 2013 10:02 PM GMT
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    Tangiers said
    freedomisntfree said
    Tangiers saidThanks for the link. I'm really REALLY glad Cadillac is making climbs back to Standard of the World.

    When I was growing up, the best cars were always domestic. Cadillac and Lincoln...and often cousins like Thunderbird, Toronado, Riviera and Corvette. My dad was into cars and owned a variety of them, plus my mom liked sports cars and usually drove a Mustang or Camaro. I was very lucky to have car enthusiasts for parents.

    But sadly, many cars built during much of my adulthood have all the appeal of kitchen appliances. Even the ones generally regarded as the best of them....the Mercedes S550 and Lexus LS460...leave me feeling cold.

    Good to see GM is bringing back love of the automobile. Americans can point to Cadillac because it gives us a boost to our national pride. Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII, and then we paid to help rebuild their countries. Yet, when it was our time, German and Japanese cars flood our highways. What does this say about our generation? This has to make us wonder if we are a bunch a losers for letting that happen. But this new CTS...the WWII vets are looking down on that car, and see this young generation of car designers have inherited their "Give 'em Hell" DNA. Thank you Cadillac!


    "Our parents (or grandparents) beat back German & Japanese aggression in WWII"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_of_democracy

    Union or not, and I'm no fan of the UAW, but I would rather it be our unions versus their unions so yes, I support the home team and buy frequently from the American domiciled big three. Yes, I've heard all of the excuses ... all the rationalizations, but my money goes to Detroit.

    Objectively, I think Cadillac stands a very good chance of truly being able to complete with the German big three. This time I thinks it's going to happen. They won't outsell MB though because MB is a full line manufacture from A-class on up. GM has Chevy to do A and B class cars, but from entry level luxury to the top, I think we'll see Cadillac compete with the best.

    I do wish Sergio would give a go with a truly state of the art Imperial, but that's not all that likely. And Lincoln will stay more of a competitor with the second tier luxury brands from Japan Infiniti, Acura, Lexis and now Korea .


    I agree. Just comparing the ATS to the current CTS, I can see how far Cadillac has stepped up their game. The ATS is smaller and has a lower MSRP, but has better suspension, build quality and seats, to name a few. Even attention to small details, like the view over the hood feels more luxurious in the ATS.

    When Chevrolet introduced a $40k Impala and the automotive press went gaga over it...that was a clue Cadillac is ready to move on to bigger things.




    Cadillac needs to move up and out of the way a bit to make room for Buick. Buick is very likely to get a new Riv off of the Omega platform and a new rear wheel drive performance car off of Alpha. They should do a large hybrid rear wheel drive sedan and call it .... wait ..... the Electra

    There will also be a sub Alpha rear wheel drive platform for Chevy that will spawn a small two seat rear wheel drive Miata / BRZ / FRS type roadster and coupe.

    It's getting real crowed at the General with new product.


    Especially the ones below.


    Although, I'm sure they've already got homes waiting for them.

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    But hell yeah...Buick Electra! That is a perfect name in so many ways.
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    Sep 19, 2013 10:33 PM GMT
    I don't understand how there were so many C-7s in private hands a month ago for Dream Cruise. I had thought they weren't shipped yet.