Your "Holy" Water is Dirty

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    Sep 17, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
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    New study finds the water at church is a dangerous place to dip your hand.

    By Sally Wadyka

    I was born and raised in a Catholic family. I attended Catholic school and went to church every Sunday and on holidays. A key part of the going-to-church ritual was blessing yourself with holy water upon entering. You dip your hand in the font and then bless yourself with the holy water (for non-Christians, this motion involves touching your forehead, your chest, left shoulder, then right shoulder).
    Little did I know that that simple ritual could have made me sick.
    A team of researchers at the Institute of Hygiene and Applied Immunology at the Medical University of Vienna decided to find out exactly what’s in the holy water that religious people routinely dip into or even sip (many so-called holy springs have a reputation for helping to heal whatever ails you).

    The researchers analyzed the water in 21 of these holy springs in Austria, as well as the water from 18 different church fonts in Vienna.

    What they found was pretty disturbing. Apparently, every milliliter of holy water contains up to 62 million bacteria -- most of them not stuff you really want on your hands or in your gut. In fact, 86 percent of the water tested contained fecal matter. And if that’s not bad enough, it was also widely contaminated with E. coli, enterococci and Campylobacter (a common cause of inflammatory diarrhea). Only 14 percent of the holy springs met the microbiological and chemical requirements of drinking water regulations, and many of them tested positive for nitrates from agriculture, which are unsafe for drinking.

    At the very least, the researchers urge, people should be warned about drinking from these sources. But even the seemingly innocuous practice of blessing yourself with holy water from the font as you enter the church can be hazardous to your health. Not surprisingly, the fonts in the busiest churches were the most contaminated. But those in hospital chapels also raised a red flag, where holy water could easily spread infection to people least able to fight it off.

    The solution? First of all, don’t drink the water, no matter how sacred it might seem. And the researchers suggest that churches change out the water in the fonts frequently, plus add some salt to it to help curb bacteria. Or, if you go to church when you’re feeling a little rundown, you might just want to skip the ritual altogether.
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    Sep 17, 2013 10:51 PM GMT
    Anything that you put your hands in will get like that pretty rapidly. No surprises there.
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    Sep 17, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidAnything that you put your hands in will get like that pretty rapidly. No surprises there.



    Actually, there are a LOT of delusional religious people who think that because the water is "holy", that it's pure. They actually believe Jesus keeps germs out of the water I suppose.
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    Sep 17, 2013 11:20 PM GMT
    Maybe it is mysteriously pure.
    Are there any stories of Church epidemics?
    (Not that I would want to touch it anymore.)
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    Sep 17, 2013 11:26 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidMaybe it is mysteriously pure.
    Are there any stories of Church epidemics?
    (Not that I would want to touch it anymore.)


    Yes, there's this disease called "Pedophilia." Maybe it's water-born. icon_surprised.gif
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    Sep 18, 2013 1:15 AM GMT
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    JohnSpotter saidMaybe it is mysteriously pure.
    Are there any stories of Church epidemics?
    (Not that I would want to touch it anymore.)


    Yes, there's this disease called "Pedophilia." Maybe it's water-born. icon_surprised.gif


    Burn! LOL. Well they typically just rub it on themselves. I've gone to Church for years, and I never got sick after using the Holy Water. Maybe people are just able to fight off the bacteria or something?
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    Sep 18, 2013 10:12 PM GMT
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    Scruffypup said
    JohnSpotter saidMaybe it is mysteriously pure.
    Are there any stories of Church epidemics?
    (Not that I would want to touch it anymore.)


    Yes, there's this disease called "Pedophilia." Maybe it's water-born. icon_surprised.gif


    Burn! LOL. Well they typically just rub it on themselves. I've gone to Church for years, and I never got sick after using the Holy Water. Maybe people are just able to fight off the bacteria or something?

    Right. That was the point I was trying to make before I was called a pedophile.
    It's the same thing at the gym. We all know the place is swarming with disease, yet no one ever gets sick. Maybe you can build up a super tolerance.
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    Sep 18, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter said
    OneSongGlory said
    Scruffypup said
    JohnSpotter saidMaybe it is mysteriously pure.
    Are there any stories of Church epidemics?
    (Not that I would want to touch it anymore.)


    Yes, there's this disease called "Pedophilia." Maybe it's water-born. icon_surprised.gif


    Burn! LOL. Well they typically just rub it on themselves. I've gone to Church for years, and I never got sick after using the Holy Water. Maybe people are just able to fight off the bacteria or something?

    Right. That was the point I was trying to make before I was called a pedophile.
    It's the same thing at the gym. We all know the place is swarming with disease, yet no one ever gets sick. Maybe you can build up a super tolerance.



    No one called you a pedophile. Good grief.
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    Sep 18, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
    icon_rolleyes.gif It's not going to make you sick just from touching it. You'd have to drink a few glasses of it. (Or lick the aforementioned gym equipment.) And someone who is sick would have to have contaminated it before you did so. The presence of E. coli means that a disease transmission pathway is open, but random E. coli are not necessarily going to make you sick. They are indicator organisms.

    The article only mentions that the samples failed drinking water standards, which are quite strict, then goes on to make a bunch of misleading extrapolations. Yeah, it's a fun factoid, but not to be taken too seriously.

    In fact, bathing water or recreational (swimming) standards, based just on empirical data (i.e. what does it take to make people sick) allow about 300 times more E. coli than do drinking water standards, and in those cases people have their heads submerged in the stuff. But presumably they're not drinking much of it.


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    Sep 19, 2013 5:24 AM GMT
    mindgarden saidicon_rolleyes.gif It's not going to make you sick just from touching it. You'd have to drink a few glasses of it. (Or lick the aforementioned gym equipment.) And someone who is sick would have to have contaminated it before you did so. The presence of E. coli means that a disease transmission pathway is open, but random E. coli are not necessarily going to make you sick. They are indicator organisms.

    The article only mentions that the samples failed drinking water standards, which are quite strict, then goes on to make a bunch of misleading extrapolations. Yeah, it's a fun factoid, but not to be taken too seriously.

    In fact, bathing water or recreational (swimming) standards, based just on empirical data (i.e. what does it take to make people sick) allow about 300 times more E. coli than do drinking water standards, and in those cases people have their heads submerged in the stuff. But presumably they're not drinking much of it.





    Gee thanks Mister Smarty Pants. How am I supposed to make the Catholics squirm now? icon_mad.gif
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    Sep 19, 2013 6:12 AM GMT
    Let them have it. More Evian for me.
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    Sep 19, 2013 6:12 AM GMT
    Sry.

    <--- microbiology professor. Got hours of lectures stored up on this shit.
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    Sep 19, 2013 6:13 AM GMT
    Excuse me, my holy water is imported from France.
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    Sep 20, 2013 2:31 PM GMT
    If you want to talk about infected water, this is really scary.
    http://news.msn.com/us/brain-eating-amoeba-rattles-nerves-in-louisiana

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    Oct 02, 2013 3:34 AM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidIf you want to talk about infected water, this is really scary.
    http://news.msn.com/us/brain-eating-amoeba-rattles-nerves-in-louisiana

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    Yeah, until about a year ago, I used warm tap water straight from the faucet to fill my Neti Pot. Once I heard about those two deaths, I immediately switched to distilled water! Scary.
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    Oct 02, 2013 3:37 AM GMT
    All the more reason for me to stay out of religion....
    and of course it has shit in it....the water is dipped out of Vatican chamber pots...icon_rolleyes.gif