***CALORIES vs GETTING MUSCLES and not getting fat***

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    Sep 19, 2013 9:26 AM GMT
    CALORIES vs GETTING MUSCLES and not getting fat

    I talked to two personal trainers and they contradicted themselves, I did researches online and I am a bit confused.

    I am slim, I work out 4 times a week = 6 hours weekly, basically I work out for chest and less for other bits. Now the issue is in that situation, if I eat 1500-2000 calories a day, is it not too much? Guide says I should eat 2000 + 300calories if I work out

    Now If eat those 2300 a day will I get fat? Im scared to get my tummy fat, now is slim but i cant do exercises for it due to lower back problem, so if I eat 2300 calories, which is 800 cal more then now, will i get fat on stomach?

    what if I carry on with 1500-2000 calories a day doing 6 hours of workouts a week, will I get muscles?

    I dont understand why I need to get more body mass to get muscles, why I have to increase calories, eat more fat etc

    thanks
  • ThatSwimmerGu...

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    Sep 19, 2013 8:58 PM GMT
    My issue is not eating enough. I've been eating more lately, I'd say aim for 2400 calories or more for weight gain. Probably closer to 2800 is better. Healthy stuff!
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    Sep 19, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    fantasticlad saidCALORIES vs GETTING MUSCLES and not getting fat

    I talked to two personal trainers and they contradicted themselves, I did researches online and I am a bit confused.

    I am slim, I work out 4 times a week = 6 hours weekly, basically I work out for chest and less for other bits. Now the issue is in that situation, if I eat 1500-2000 calories a day, is it not too much? Guide says I should eat 2000 + 300calories if I work out

    Now If eat those 2300 a day will I get fat? Im scared to get my tummy fat, now is slim but i cant do exercises for it due to lower back problem, so if I eat 2300 calories, which is 800 cal more then now, will i get fat on stomach?

    what if I carry on with 1500-2000 calories a day doing 6 hours of workouts a week, will I get muscles?

    I dont understand why I need to get more body mass to get muscles, why I have to increase calories, eat more fat etc

    thanks


    you are not eating enough, 1500 calories is nothing, you will never gain muscle eating this little
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    Sep 19, 2013 9:29 PM GMT
    fantasticlad saidCALORIES vs GETTING MUSCLES and not getting fat

    I talked to two personal trainers and they contradicted themselves, I did researches online and I am a bit confused.

    I am slim, I work out 4 times a week = 6 hours weekly, basically I work out for chest and less for other bits. Now the issue is in that situation, if I eat 1500-2000 calories a day, is it not too much? Guide says I should eat 2000 + 300calories if I work out

    Now If eat those 2300 a day will I get fat? Im scared to get my tummy fat, now is slim but i cant do exercises for it due to lower back problem, so if I eat 2300 calories, which is 800 cal more then now, will i get fat on stomach?

    what if I carry on with 1500-2000 calories a day doing 6 hours of workouts a week, will I get muscles?

    I dont understand why I need to get more body mass to get muscles, why I have to increase calories, eat more fat etc

    thanks

    1500-2000 is not even close to enough if you're looking to put on lean body mass. That's the range one might eat in to cut...

    You should calculate your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate) and then find your calorie needs for maintenance using the Harris-Benedict Equation. You can accomplish both here: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/

    After that, add about 500 calories to your maintenance number (what you just calculated) and you have your ideal caloric intake to gain about one pound per week. Aside from beginner gains that we're all treated to when starting out, you should not expect to gain a lot of muscle mass or weight without some fat being added also. It is very, very difficult to eat and train in such a way that you will only ever put on muscle mass and not some fat mass also. You need to accept this, and then some months down the road rather than adding 500 calories to your maintenance number, subtract 500 calories from it. Cutting works similar in the sense that it is hard to lose fat mass without losing some muscle mass also. It's not impossible, but it is quite difficult. You will also need to accept that you may lose some muscle mass as you lose fat mass.

    To answer your final question, no, it is not very likely that you will add muscle mass if you are eating under 2000 calories per day. In fact, it is pretty much impossible. You have to be eating above maintenance level to put on weight of any kind, whether it be muscle or fat. Muscle mass increases as you eat more and train. When you have layers of fat surrounding muscles, you are not building your muscle in any way by losing weight. You are only removing the layers of fat that surround the muscle you already have, so it's deceiving to say that you're "getting muscle" when you're cutting. Similarly, when you get bigger while bulking, it's deceiving to say you're not "getting muscle" if you just see fat. As long as you're working out properly and eating above maintenance level, muscle is very likely being built, but it won't usually happen without some fat creeping on as well.

    Building your body is an arduous process. If it were easy we'd all be ripped without an ounce of fat on our bodies. Building muscle and losing fat are simple, but not easy. That's an important distinction to make.
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    fantasticlad saidCALORIES vs GETTING MUSCLES and not getting fat

    I talked to two personal trainers and they contradicted themselves, I did researches online and I am a bit confused.

    I am slim, I work out 4 times a week = 6 hours weekly, basically I work out for chest and less for other bits. Now the issue is in that situation, if I eat 1500-2000 calories a day, is it not too much? Guide says I should eat 2000 + 300calories if I work out

    Now If eat those 2300 a day will I get fat? Im scared to get my tummy fat, now is slim but i cant do exercises for it due to lower back problem, so if I eat 2300 calories, which is 800 cal more then now, will i get fat on stomach?

    what if I carry on with 1500-2000 calories a day doing 6 hours of workouts a week, will I get muscles?

    I dont understand why I need to get more body mass to get muscles, why I have to increase calories, eat more fat etc

    thanks



    Switch to Paleo diet and you will never get fat . And pile on the good fat.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Sep 20, 2013 3:13 AM GMT
    buddy, you are slim you can eat pretty much anything you want. i say that but i mean within reason. listen, you trying to gain and you are already slender so that means you have room to eat whatever you want but eat stuff with nutritional value.
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    Sep 20, 2013 4:46 AM GMT
    I am dealing with EXACTLY the same issue(s) - and at 47 I'm trying to be'cautious'. - LOL! So it's good to hear responses. I'm only 5'7" at 140#. I want to be a SOLID 155-160 if possible. icon_cool.gif