Openly gay congressional candidate Rep. Carl Sciortino jousts with tea party dad in new ad

  • metta

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    Sep 19, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    Openly gay congressional candidate Rep. Carl Sciortino jousts with tea party dad in new ad



    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/09/openly-gay-congressional-candidate-jousts-with-tea-party-dad-in-new-ad/
  • metta

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    Sep 19, 2013 3:49 PM GMT
    https://www.facebook.com/Carl.Sciortino.MA




    http://carlforcongress.com/


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    Sep 19, 2013 4:01 PM GMT
    Best. Political Ad. Ever.

    Sweet Dad too. Individually, many in the Tea Party are probably like him.
    I hope they will support his son too.
  • TannerMasseur

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    Sep 19, 2013 4:26 PM GMT
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    Sep 19, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
    It is a sweet ad. Unfortunately, I do not think many in the tea party are like his dad.
  • BuggEyedSprit...

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    Sep 19, 2013 10:50 PM GMT
    This warmed my cockles...icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 19, 2013 11:24 PM GMT
    metta8 saidOpenly gay congressional candidate Rep. Carl Sciortino jousts with tea party dad in new ad



    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/09/openly-gay-congressional-candidate-jousts-with-tea-party-dad-in-new-ad/


    "gay"

    Obviously!
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    Sep 19, 2013 11:25 PM GMT
    blackhawksfan saidIt is a sweet ad. Unfortunately, I do not think many in the tea party are like his dad.


    I don't know any who aren't, and I know a bunch. The dad seemed pretty typical to me.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Sep 20, 2013 12:16 AM GMT
    what a great ad! who said there aren't great parents out there
  • safety43_mma1...

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    Sep 20, 2013 1:12 AM GMT
    Love it lol. And he is a sexy little liberal also yeah for us
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    Sep 20, 2013 1:28 AM GMT
    Cute but Ryan will pass on Massachusetts liberals.You know what is funny.How states like Massachusetts and Vermont went from quite conservative to raging liberal.I mean look at Peyton Place in the 1950's and 60's.One of my fav shows by the way.That was set in New England I believe.I mean obviously the whole country went more left in the 1960's a 70's but New England realllllllllly went the hippie crazy route.
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    Sep 20, 2013 1:55 AM GMT
    I think there are lots of these Tea Party Dads, and Moms, who accept their gay children and their gay friends.

    Yet they disconnect their personal lives from their politics.

    It's a disconnect that's a lot like schizophrenia.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Sep 20, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
    by the way, he is republican. he is not supposed to support or have all of those ideas and view points. wow, i am very surprised
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    Sep 20, 2013 3:20 AM GMT
    More like Taxachussetts...

    ...Sorry I've always wanted to say that...
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    Sep 20, 2013 6:15 AM GMT
    tuffguyndc saidby the way, he is republican. he is not supposed to support or have all of those ideas and view points. wow, i am very surprised


    "BOSTON — Congressional hopeful and Democratic state Rep. Carl Sciortino is playing up his liberal credentials in new ad featuring a light-hearted back-and-forth with his tea party dad, Carl Sciortino, Sr."
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    Sep 20, 2013 6:38 AM GMT
    I doubt very much his dad is tea party member based on what he is saying...

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  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Sep 20, 2013 12:31 PM GMT
    blackhawksfan saidIt is a sweet ad. Unfortunately, I do not think many in the tea party are like his dad.


    He won't expect the pure Tea Party vote and won't need it to win .... but he does need some fringe middle of the road voters that sometimes sway that direction.... this ad highlights and targets many issues popular with women - abortion, guns, and the safety net.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Sep 20, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
    I looked him up. His district is heavily Democratic, he get 84% of the vote in his last contest for State Representative, and he has $350,000 in his war chest for the November contest to replace Ed Markey in Congress.

    This ad is definitely not about converting Tea Party voters .... it's about drumming up his base who despise Tea Party voters. And yes he and his Dad are cute as hell.
  • swall1963

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    Sep 20, 2013 3:10 PM GMT
    LuckyGuyKC saidI looked him up. His district is heavily Democratic, he get 84% of the vote in his last contest for State Representative, and he has $350,000 in his war chest for the November contest to replace Ed Markey in Congress.

    This ad is definitely not about converting Tea Party voters .... it's about drumming up his base who despise Tea Party voters. And yes he and his Dad are cute as hell.


    LuckyGuyKC, just two things about your posts.

    One, there is no such thing as "fringe middle of the road". The fringe is on the edges, not in the vast middle.

    Two, $350,000 will not get you elected to congress. Is 2012 the average successful congressional campaign cost $1.3 million. And that is the average. In 2014 a new candidate campaign could cost between $2-2.5 million. Getting 84% in a state rep race is a long way from getting 50.1% in a congressional race.
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    Sep 20, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree said
    metta8 saidOpenly gay congressional candidate Rep. Carl Sciortino jousts with tea party dad in new ad



    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/09/openly-gay-congressional-candidate-jousts-with-tea-party-dad-in-new-ad/


    "gay"

    Obviously!


    Maybe he's a BonaFide Homosexual and not bi, as gay also means bi now days, and Bona Fide Homosexual does not........
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Sep 29, 2013 7:36 PM GMT
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    LuckyGuyKC saidI looked him up. His district is heavily Democratic, he get 84% of the vote in his last contest for State Representative, and he has $350,000 in his war chest for the November contest to replace Ed Markey in Congress.

    This ad is definitely not about converting Tea Party voters .... it's about drumming up his base who despise Tea Party voters. And yes he and his Dad are cute as hell.


    LuckyGuyKC, just two things about your posts.

    One, there is no such thing as "fringe middle of the road". The fringe is on the edges, not in the vast middle.

    Two, $350,000 will not get you elected to congress. Is 2012 the average successful congressional campaign cost $1.3 million. And that is the average. In 2014 a new candidate campaign could cost between $2-2.5 million. Getting 84% in a state rep race is a long way from getting 50.1% in a congressional race.


    You are right .... my complete lack of political acumen completely invalidates the entire premise of my post which you failed to address which is that his ad is about building his base way before he even declares in the race and starts to campaign (including raising funds) in earnest.
  • madsexy

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    Sep 29, 2013 8:04 PM GMT
    swall1963 said
    LuckyGuyKC saidI looked him up. His district is heavily Democratic, he get 84% of the vote in his last contest for State Representative, and he has $350,000 in his war chest for the November contest to replace Ed Markey in Congress.

    This ad is definitely not about converting Tea Party voters .... it's about drumming up his base who despise Tea Party voters. And yes he and his Dad are cute as hell.


    LuckyGuyKC, just two things about your posts.

    One, there is no such thing as "fringe middle of the road". The fringe is on the edges, not in the vast middle.

    Two, $350,000 will not get you elected to congress. Is 2012 the average successful congressional campaign cost $1.3 million. And that is the average. In 2014 a new candidate campaign could cost between $2-2.5 million. Getting 84% in a state rep race is a long way from getting 50.1% in a congressional race.

    Your second point is ill-informed. The point made, that he has $350k, which is a ton more than most state representatives have for a potential US Congressional Seat bid. That war chest is what bankrolls ads and fundraisers to springboard from that level to the 5 or 6 times that which is expended to win a Congress race. This is basic campaigning . . . much like charitable fund-raising and endowment maintenance.
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    Sep 29, 2013 9:03 PM GMT
    I'm compelled to state, for the record if nothing else, how shallow, stereotypical, and, ultimately, uninformed those posts purporting either to diagnose Dad's mental health or determine the beliefs of Tea Party supporters are. I wonder how many who've parroted the pablum poured forth on MSNBC and similar leftist media outlets have actually ever MET, let alone talked with, a Tea Party supporter? Whatever happened to that precious "diversity" you people are always talking about? Where's your intellectual curiosity - and honesty - when it comes to forming your opinions from facts you've personally uncovered and verified, instead of just passing on the latest cliche trotted out by HRC, Victory Fund, or any of the other allegedly non-partisan G&L advocacy groups that in reality are nothing more than closeted Democratic fundraisers?

    Let me tell you about another Carl, an "openly gay" - just what does that mean, anyway, and who defines it? - Republican candidate for Congress, running to represent CA's 52nd CD, named Carl DeMaio. Here are links to his campaign website and to a broad and fair summary of his career and achievements, courtesy of the usually-Democratic Yahoo:

    http://carldemaio.com

    http://news.yahoo.com/carl-demaio-running-for-congress-in-california--220037721.html

    Make up your own mind about whether you'd support him or not, but please, don't perpertuate the myth - or the stereotype, if you're compelled to use that term - that most GOPers or Tea Partiers are as anti-gay as you persist in portraying them to be. As a former GOP Congressional nominee (CA 8th CD (Pelosi)) myself - and yes, an "openly gay" one with an equally "open" record of litigating both for G&Ls and against intolerant GOPers - I can assure you from my own experience holding elected office within the GOP and seeking public office outside of it that there are significant numbers of Democrats that are no friends to G&L rights except for the perceived political advantage of holding themselves out as such. The only difference between them and anti-G&L GOPers is that the latter are open and forthright about their beliefs, however abhorrent they may be, while the former are just plain political hypocrites. Take or leave this fact as you will, but don't be surprised when someone who did hearken to it calls you out the next time you repeat some ignorant, and ultimately, prejudiced, piece of nonsense you never bothered to verify yourself.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Sep 30, 2013 11:51 AM GMT
    MGINSD saidI'm compelled to state, for the record if nothing else, how shallow, stereotypical, and, ultimately, uninformed those posts purporting either to diagnose Dad's mental health or determine the beliefs of Tea Party supporters are.

    Make up your own mind about whether you'd support him or not, but please, don't perpertuate the myth - or the stereotype, if you're compelled to use that term - that most GOPers or Tea Partiers are as anti-gay as you persist in portraying them to be. .

    I understand where your frustrations originate and empathize but do not agree completely.

    As a libertarian leaning liberal and a former Reagan Republican I was saddened when the Michelle Bachmans of the world turned the purists Tea Party movement into the Teavangelicals and similarly when the Moral Majority ruined the Republican party. I haven't voted for a Republican in a decade over my social stances rather than my libertarian stances.

    Both the current R Party and the Tea party pander to the religious right and until that ends otherwise well meaning and harmless conservatives get painted with that brush.

    Let's see how the R Party does with Gay Marriage in 2016 ... I look forward to watching that struggle.

    At the end of the day one party has an inclusive platform with little or no apologies for the same and the other has an exclusionary platform with little or no apology for being being bigoted. It makes it tough to be a Log Cabin R but I know people who do it in hopes for a better day. When you see Putin and Russia and know how precious and young the progress is in our own country, I tend to think supporting the R Party and the Tea Party is very risky to our freedoms.
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    Oct 19, 2013 4:15 PM GMT
    Thanks for an intelligent post, KC; I think we agree more than we disagree - and I'm looking forward to both the 2014 and 2016 elections, too.