Where to move?

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    Nov 22, 2008 11:25 PM GMT
    I am moving summer 09'

    either:
    Portland, OR
    Chicago, IL
    DC

    discuss positives and negatives THANKS!
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    Nov 22, 2008 11:29 PM GMT
    The DC area economy is largely insulated from the recessions of the country because of the fed. gov't that never goes broke employing so many people.

    There is a large gay population here

    Lot of stuff to do....big city amenities without that overwhelming big city feel...no building in DC can be taller than the Capitol.

    I see you are in medicine....lots of hospitals, NIH, and universities in the area
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    Nov 22, 2008 11:33 PM GMT
    I am always scheming to move to PDX so join me on that quest.
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    Nov 23, 2008 12:03 AM GMT
    well, I don't know about you, but I'm moving from one side of the lounge to the other..

    Much better vantage point over there for watching ma movies while I cry silently from hayfever icon_sad.gif
  • GoodPup

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    Nov 23, 2008 12:11 AM GMT
    I can't offer much feedback.. other than my dad loves living in Chicago. His summer home there has become more of a 95% of the year home. ha! My brother and sister have both visited and loved it too.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 23, 2008 12:15 AM GMT
    Portland has the beauty ...
    very laid back alot like Seattle as far as temperament goes

    DC is very businesslike ... people tend to be very ambitious
    intellectual
    clean

    Chicago to me is a little brother to NY

  • joggerva

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    Nov 23, 2008 1:55 AM GMT
    I think all three are good cities. You'll be spending a lot of your waking hours at work, so I would suggest picking based on which has a position or employer that you are most interested in.
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    Nov 23, 2008 2:27 AM GMT
    i second caslon- though the shopping's not as good as chicago.
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    Nov 23, 2008 2:39 AM GMT
    Is there a reason you are moving....


    job op?

    guy?

    new life?



    As for me, I might be moving to MN.
    I was going to move there a long while ago. I met a guy on here and things were slowly coming together. Because his job and some a stupid friend caused, we stayed friends instead. I haven't heard from him for quit some time. Its weird, out of the blue he calls when I was at gym, talked to my mom for an hour (wtf, I hate it when a friend or someone you like talks to your parents) I love colorado but ive been here all my life. I think its time for a new life and if an old crush is there, that just makes it better.

    So buddy, why you planning on moving?
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    Nov 23, 2008 3:22 AM GMT
    I don't think I will ever leave the east coast. There are parts that are absolutely beautiful. Not to mention I'm more than likely to afford a house here than say on the west side of the US. icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 23, 2008 4:10 AM GMT
    I have lived and worked in Chicago-cold in the winter, steamy in the summer. remember the lake effect-if you like/dislike snow
    I worked at CINN-Chicago Institute for Neurosurgery and Neuroresarch-excellent clinical experience, people were professional and friendly.
    I lived on the fringe of boystown-didn't think it was really expensive.
    Close enough to the country in any direction.
    Entertainment, the arts etc are top notch in Chicago. If you follow pro sports-good city to live in. The guys are pretty down to earth I would say..

    Portland is very appealing from an environmental perspective and its proximity north to Seattle/Vancouver and south to California.and the mountain ranges. Personally I would go with the ladder because of my preference for nature. Not ot familiar with employment really. Can't imagime finding work in Medicine is difficult. cheers.



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    Nov 23, 2008 4:16 AM GMT
    DC has the highest salaries compared to the housing cost in the country.
  • imperator

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    Nov 23, 2008 4:30 AM GMT
    Pfft-- move to Canada. We're generally polite, it's relatively safe, the weather sucks from Nov to March but we hibernate through the winter months boinking indoors, our banking system was recently singled out as one of the best in the world in the face of the economic crisis, and if you meet a nice boy you can actually marry him here-- your mother will be thrilled icon_smile.gif It's like America only without the GOP-- our governing Conservatives are to the 'left' of your Democrats. I think Jon Stewart called them "the equivalent to Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace" in the U.S. Buy a parka 'n get yer butt north of the border.
  • dannyboy1101

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    Nov 23, 2008 8:28 AM GMT
    imperator saidPfft-- move to Canada. We're generally polite, it's relatively safe, the weather sucks from Nov to March but we hibernate through the winter months boinking indoors, our banking system was recently singled out as one of the best in the world in the face of the economic crisis, and if you meet a nice boy you can actually marry him here-- your mother will be thrilled icon_smile.gif It's like America only without the GOP-- our governing Conservatives are to the 'left' of your Democrats. I think Jon Stewart called them "the equivalent to Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace" in the U.S. Buy a parka 'n get yer butt north of the border.


    Why would Canada necessarily want any fleeing Americans at this point? Isn't it kind of difficult to get citizenship up there now? Don't get me wrong, I loved Canada when I visited and I hope to continue exploring in the future. Perhaps it's a misconception of mine that the welcome mat was turned upside down.
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    Nov 23, 2008 9:24 AM GMT
    kajakark said
    imperator saidPfft-- move to Canada. We're generally polite, it's relatively safe, the weather sucks from Nov to March but we hibernate through the winter months boinking indoors, our banking system was recently singled out as one of the best in the world in the face of the economic crisis, and if you meet a nice boy you can actually marry him here-- your mother will be thrilled icon_smile.gif It's like America only without the GOP-- our governing Conservatives are to the 'left' of your Democrats. I think Jon Stewart called them "the equivalent to Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace" in the U.S. Buy a parka 'n get yer butt north of the border.


    no one cares about canada anymore now that the big O is heading to office. it's all about America now. and check out forbes and Denver's ranking. Portland is right up there too. just remember the wise words of our gracious South Park creators, CINCYMSN08...canada isn't even a real country anyways.


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  • imperator

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    Nov 23, 2008 10:40 AM GMT
    kajakark said
    imperator saidPfft-- move to Canada. We're generally polite, it's relatively safe, the weather sucks from Nov to March but we hibernate through the winter months boinking indoors, our banking system was recently singled out as one of the best in the world in the face of the economic crisis, and if you meet a nice boy you can actually marry him here-- your mother will be thrilled icon_smile.gif It's like America only without the GOP-- our governing Conservatives are to the 'left' of your Democrats. I think Jon Stewart called them "the equivalent to Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace" in the U.S. Buy a parka 'n get yer butt north of the border.


    no one cares about canada anymore now that the big O is heading to office. it's all about America now. and check out forbes and Denver's ranking. Portland is right up there too. just remember the wise words of our gracious South Park creators, CINCYMSN08...canada isn't even a real country anyways. it's kind of just riding the coattails of the greatest country in the world. no one turns to canada for help. hell Cali has a bigger gnp than they do. canada is still busy trying to figure out how to get rid of that dion chic. even vegas got tired of her.
    but they have good water.


    Just because we were civilized and peacefully negotiated for our independence instead of throwing a bloodthirsty tantrum over it doesn't make us "not a real country." And we don't ride America's coattails... no one can *fit* on America's coattails, America's ass has gotten so fat.

    Don't mess with us, we'll load up some canoes and come burn down your presidential residence. Again.
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    Nov 23, 2008 11:39 AM GMT
    onslaught saidIs there a reason you are moving....


    job op?

    guy?

    new life?



    As for me, I might be moving to MN.
    I was going to move there a long while ago. I met a guy on here and things were slowly coming together. Because his job and some a stupid friend caused, we stayed friends instead. I haven't heard from him for quit some time. Its weird, out of the blue he calls when I was at gym, talked to my mom for an hour (wtf, I hate it when a friend or someone you like talks to your parents) I love colorado but ive been here all my life. I think its time for a new life and if an old crush is there, that just makes it better.

    So buddy, why you planning on moving?


    I plan on moving to start a new life! I work for the VA, so I can transfer to any city in the USA.
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    Nov 23, 2008 9:20 PM GMT
    I love how this turned into USA vs. Canada..lol...thanks for all the input thus far. I'm getting closer to a decision!
  • rileystheman

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    Nov 23, 2008 9:51 PM GMT
    Some perspective from an Oregonian himself:

    My mom moved my siblings and I up here from Orange County when I was 13. I hated this place for a good ten years. It's slow, it rains a LOT, when it's not raining between the months of October and June it's either cloudy and threatening it or sunny and colder than a witch's tit. If you're moving from a highly populated area, also consider the fact that the lifestyle is SLOW here. I mean, really slow. Get ready to have to pass people that are driving under the speed limit in the left hand lane and for bikers on the road to add a good 10 minutes to your drive if you commute. If a slow lifestyle bothers you, you should really take that into consideration.

    Now onto why Portland's one of the best cities in the country. While it took me 10 years to warm up to the area, I could never leave now. Portland's beautiful. Portland's green (environmentally and physically). the general attitude of the public is nice and laid back (something that Portland definitely owns over Seattle). it's close to practically any outdoor activity you could want, including the coast two hours to the west, Mt. Hood an hour to the east, and a beautiful gorge that hosts some awesome hiking, windsurfing, camping, etc. practically in it's backyard. Plus with Seattle a short 2.5 hour jaunt up I-5, you can get to a larger, more bustling city pretty quickly if you feel the need. Portland's also a very forward-thinking city. With it's urban growth boundary confining urban sprawl, Portlanders are ensured that they'll have all of the benefits of a beautiful external environment just outside the city limits for years to come, while it also bolsters local business by forcing businesses and consumers to renovate, remodel or rebuild what we already have instead of sprawling outward.

    And there's beer here. Lots and lots of it. And it's good.

    If you can deal with rain seven to eight months out of the year and the slower lifestyle, you'll enjoy it here, guaranteed. Hope this helps.


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    Nov 23, 2008 10:00 PM GMT
    CINCYMSN08 saidI am moving summer 09'

    either:
    Portland, OR
    Chicago, IL
    DC

    discuss positives and negatives THANKS!


    Well there are obvious positives and negatives but you need to really weigh what you want. These three cities could not be any more different.

    First you have Portland - which has plenty of natural beauty and such but some people consider it to be "The Crystal Meth Capital of the United States". There was a special about this on Nat Geo Channel regarding how big it is thoughout the country, but is especially popular in the Portland Area. Something to consider. Other than that, I do not know much about it but it seems quite.."laid back".

    DC...DC....DC.... Where to begin - granted you will make good pay, but people there are generally quite cold. Especially if you are doing something that does not require to you lick a politician. Just remember - if you are there, you are looking to get ahead in life and will do whatever it takes to get there - even if it is stepping on people - it takes a special person to want to live in DC and the surrounding region. Also, the city can be confusing to drive in, traffic is simply atrocious, the weather can be simply brutal with ice storms and humidity like New Orleans (remember, built on a swamp), and the gay bar scene isn't the greatest. Oh and a lot of the people are quite douchey. I am not a fan of DC - doesn't mean that you wont be however.

    Chicago is an awesome city. Good home values, plenty of industry and diversity, Your absolute best place to live in the midwest and make "east coast style" money but with people that are genuinely nice. It is also fairly close to your family since (i assume) you are in Cincy. However you will be paying more to live in Chicago but for the lifestyle you get what you pay for. Now for the downsides - Crime will always be an issue with any major city - but the biggest sucky factor is the weather. Flying in and out of OHare any time of year is normally a nightmare, and the city is VERY large and spread out - but the highways are in a constant state of repair.

    In my opionio however, out of your three choices its a no brainer - you should move to Chicago. The population, size, cultural, livability, etc all work in your favor.

    Other places you may want to consider:

    Instead of Chicago: NYC
    Instead of Portland: San Diego or possibly Austin TX
    Instead of DC: Philadelphia or Atlanta

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    Nov 23, 2008 10:12 PM GMT
    Well, if you work for the VA, you probably know that the VA hospital is part of the OHSU complex up on Pill Hill. It's like a fricken dark fortress of medicine on top of a craggy mountain. Riding the aerial tram up there from the south waterfront on a dark foggy night, it feels like something out of a James Bond movie. You can't help but start an evil cackle.

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    And BTW The Gorge is NOT Portland's back yard. In fact, Portland is more like our storm sewer. We're building a wall, man.
  • rileystheman

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    Nov 23, 2008 10:14 PM GMT
    mindgarden said
    And BTW The Gorge is NOT Portland's back yard. In fact, Portland is more like our storm sewer. We're building a wall, man.


    It may be our storm sewer, but if it was just outside of almost any other larger city in the nation, I'd bet there'd be a hell of a lot more damage to it than what's been done here.
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    Nov 23, 2008 10:25 PM GMT
    Yes! I would be working at that VA in PDX. It's MAGNET status, which is a prestigious award for nursing. I would totally love taking the aerial tram up to work!
  • imperator

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    Nov 24, 2008 4:02 AM GMT
    kajakark said
    imperator said
    kajakark said
    imperator saidPfft-- move to Canada. We're generally polite, it's relatively safe, the weather sucks from Nov to March but we hibernate through the winter months boinking indoors, our banking system was recently singled out as one of the best in the world in the face of the economic crisis, and if you meet a nice boy you can actually marry him here-- your mother will be thrilled icon_smile.gif It's like America only without the GOP-- our governing Conservatives are to the 'left' of your Democrats. I think Jon Stewart called them "the equivalent to Gay Ralph Nader Fans for Peace" in the U.S. Buy a parka 'n get yer butt north of the border.


    no one cares about canada anymore now that the big O is heading to office. it's all about America now. and check out forbes and Denver's ranking. Portland is right up there too. just remember the wise words of our gracious South Park creators, CINCYMSN08...canada isn't even a real country anyways. it's kind of just riding the coattails of the greatest country in the world. no one turns to canada for help. hell Cali has a bigger gnp than they do. canada is still busy trying to figure out how to get rid of that dion chic. even vegas got tired of her.
    but they have good water.


    Just because we were civilized and peacefully negotiated for our independence instead of throwing a bloodthirsty tantrum over it doesn't make us "not a real country." And we don't ride America's coattails... no one can *fit* on America's coattails, America's ass has gotten so fat.

    Don't mess with us, we'll load up some canoes and come burn down your presidential residence. Again.


    damn. you and your canoes.
    y'all always out-gun the U.S.
    how is quebec, btw? haven't figured out where to put them frenchies, have ya?
    btw, MY PRESIDENT IS BLACK AND GONNA GET RID OF THE FREE TRADE. canada is on it's own. not just the 51st State anymore...just a place we all make fun off.



    Actually we've reached a decision on Quebec. We just need a few years to finish digging the hole. (Incidentally, Plan B was to let the U.S. have them; with all the xenophobia and ignorance about the rest of the world in Quebec politics, we figured they'd be right at home.)

    As for being on our own... alrighty. America's prominence is in decline anyway, might as well get the jump on re-aligning ourselves with someone who'll *really* matter in 20 years. We'll sell our oil to someone else, maybe China or the EU. Meanwhile you can keep relying on Saudi Arabia or Venezuela or one of the other members of your fan club to keep your oh-so-prudent Hummers gassed up. ;)

    The best part about if we did paddle up the Potomac and light up the White House is that no one would believe it. Y'all would call up the UN and Barack would be like "Hey, Ban, it's O-bizzle-- listen! Okay, so like, the Canadians have totally gone CRAZY and I'm serious-- they're burning my house down! I'm totally standing in my front yard by the big shwang thing watching that shit go up! So look, I'm totally gonna gank those hockey-playing, syrup-eating, war-abstaining motherfuckers, yo! Back me up on this one, okay?" And then Ban ki Moon will be all like "Okay, America, here's the thing-- how about NO! You guys, like, totally lied to us about Iraq and then made a mess over there, and now you expect us to believe that Canada is attacking you? As if! Canada's no NICE, they don't do that stuff. Everyone's like totally tired of your BS and we were all expecting you to start doing things right when you got elected, so listen, stop being such a jerk country and leave Canada alone, seriously. You guys have been picking on them for years, cut it out. I totally mean it-- don't fuck this up!"
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    Nov 24, 2008 5:09 AM GMT
    Imperator,

    I have found that the Americans who like to make fun of Canada are insular and have never actually stepped foot in Canada. I apologize on for the less enlightened of my countrymen.

    And by the way, if you want to burn Buffalo again on your way to Washington could you skip the city proper and just get the first tier suburbs instead?