Bulking: 20 pounds in 4 months, too much?

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    Sep 22, 2013 11:56 AM GMT
    I measured my weight today and found out that I have gained around 22 pounds in last 4 months. Obviously, not all of it is muscle. Is this amount of gain fine or I am just gaining fat?
    Any advice?
    Most of the fat I think I get from peanut butter and olive oil.
  • jo2hotbod

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    Sep 22, 2013 12:12 PM GMT
    Sounds like a lot... but depends on your goals too
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    Sep 22, 2013 12:26 PM GMT
    jo2hotbod saidSounds like a lot... but depends on your goals too

    Now, I am worried. I see significant gains in my legs because here I bicycle quite a lot as compared to earlier (around 7 miles everyday), which was zero. I would like to believe most of my gains came from there icon_razz.gif
    What's your advice then? Cardio and decreasing my calories?
    I don't do much cardio, like rarely.
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Sep 22, 2013 2:57 PM GMT
    Only way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you take in. So yes, regular cardio is how you cut weight.
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 22, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
    If you're biking seven miles a day, you are getting all the cardio you need. You need to immediately cut back to maybe 2200 calories/day. Keep the protein up and stay on the weights and biking. That is way more than leg muscle you've added. And you may have given yourself stretch marks so start using something to repair that. Good luck!
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    Sep 22, 2013 3:43 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidIf you're biking seven miles a day, you are getting all the cardio you need. You need to immediately cut back to maybe 2200 calories/day. Keep the protein up and stay on the weights and biking. That is way more than leg muscle you've added. And you may have given yourself stretch marks so start using something to repair that. Good luck!

    My legs aren't huge but yeah compared to my earlier they have improved. I don't have any stretch marks.
    Most of the calories I consume in my breakfast and dinner. Also I am only able to manage like 3 big meal (lunch isn't any big either)and 1 small meal of sandwich combined with 2 times protein supplement. I stopped counting my calories a while ago.
    May be, I need to start counting it.
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    Sep 22, 2013 4:13 PM GMT
    When I started consuming 2 protein shakes a day I gained 20 lbs in a year. A decent chunk was fat but then I pulled back and started gaining lean muscle to replace the fat. So right now I'm sitting in a consistent 145-150 range.

    Irregardless, do you like the way you look with the extra weight gain? If you do then I wouldn't worry about it (just don't let it get out of control). If you don't like the way you look, then cut back on the calories and incorporate cardio if you aren't.
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    Sep 22, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
    S34n05 saidWhen I started consuming 2 protein shakes a day I gained 20 lbs in a year. A decent chunk was fat but then I pulled back and started gaining lean muscle to replace the fat. So right now I'm sitting in a consistent 145-150 range.

    Irregardless, do you like the way you look with the extra weight gain? If you do then I wouldn't worry about it (just don't let it get out of control). If you don't like the way you look, then cut back on the calories and incorporate cardio if you aren't.

    Yeah I don't have as such problem with my look as I don't think I am fat or anything. I used to be kind of slim/lanky ( around 148 pounds myself) and I don't think I was very happy about it.
    I was trying to see if I there is some *correct* way to go about bulking or you do it the way you want. Once I reach 175 lbs, then I will start cutting.
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    Sep 22, 2013 4:30 PM GMT
    I think 20 lbs might be a little much, I would take a look at your macros, the amount of fat/carb/protein ratio you're taking in. It's a little different for everyone and good luck icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 22, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    Certainly a portion of these 20lbs is fat.

    20lbs of lean mass in 4 months is usually just achieved by few beginners with gifted genetics, muscle memory (for guys who already had that mass but lost it due to a temporary halt in their training) or juicers (in very productive cycles).

    Regardless if it's just lean mass or a mixture of lean mass and fat, 20lbs in 4 months is very fast. Last time I did this super bulk I took a whole year to shed the fat off, a time during which I couldn't gain much mass. Never again!
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    Sep 22, 2013 4:46 PM GMT
    bachian saidCertainly a portion of these 20lbs is fat.

    20lbs of lean mass in 4 months is usually just achieved by few beginners with gifted genetics, muscle memory (for guys who already had that mass but lost it due to a temporary halt in their training) or juicers (in very productive cycles).

    Regardless if it's just lean mass or a mixture of lean mass and fat, 20lbs in 4 months is very fast. Last time I did this super bulk I took a whole year to shed the fat off, a time during which I couldn't gain much mass. Never again!

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  • great_scott

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    Sep 22, 2013 5:28 PM GMT
    I've read 1-2 pounds a week is good. Assuming it wasn't all at once, 20 pounds seems like a good gain for 4 months. Of course some of it is fat. Nobody bulks without some fat gain. That's what cutting is for though.
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    Sep 22, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    great_scott saidI've read 1-2 pounds a week is good. Assuming it wasn't all at once, 20 pounds seems like a good gain for 4 months. Of course some of it is fat. Nobody bulks without some fat gain. That's what cutting is for though.


    Yeah but 1-2 pounds of muscle is probably "normal" in a month, so if you're gaining that weekly. That fat is going to add up quickly.
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    Sep 22, 2013 6:05 PM GMT
    great_scott saidI've read 1-2 pounds a week is good. Assuming it wasn't all at once, 20 pounds seems like a good gain for 4 months. Of course some of it is fat. Nobody bulks without some fat gain. That's what cutting is for though.

    No, it wasn't all at once. It has been a gradual process.
    Also, I think there would be some water too.
    Even though I don't lift too heavy but I made good progress in squats and deadlifts. In any case, I would like to believe that I haven't gained too much fat.
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 22, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
    Then why did you ask the question? Everyone says a lot of that much gain must be fat and you argue.
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    Sep 22, 2013 7:53 PM GMT
    OMG. Don't bulk/cut. If you want to be more muscular, there are better ways to go about it. If you want to be a bear or otter or whatever, please continue.
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    Sep 22, 2013 9:31 PM GMT
    Stop measuring your body based on a scale.
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    Sep 22, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
    ECnAZ saidStop measuring your body based on a scale.
    Yes! That too.

    The reality is we all want to just look muscular. But looking muscular doesn't mean you have to weigh a certain amount. Unless you're a competitive bodybuilder aiming to compete in a certain weight category, you should just toss the scale.
  • FlypinHigh

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    Sep 22, 2013 10:03 PM GMT
    I recently tried gaining 2 pounds a month and I still gained a good amount of fat. Next time I'm going to aim for 1 pound a month. The only problem is it's hard to tell if you are gaining if it's only 1/4 pound a week.
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    Sep 22, 2013 11:39 PM GMT
    ECnAZ saidStop measuring your body based on a scale.


    It's safer to use the scale AND some body fat measurement. There's no excuse to guesstimate, these body fat measurement devices are cheap, even if they aren't 100% precise, at least you know how much mass and fat you're putting on if you do this on a weekly basis.

    For tall, thin guys like me, the scale and the body fat measurer are the only way to track progress. It takes a shitload of mass (or fat) for any difference to show, so I have to be careful not to rely on the mirror.
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    Sep 23, 2013 6:15 PM GMT
    FlypinHigh saidI recently tried gaining 2 pounds a month and I still gained a good amount of fat. Next time I'm going to aim for 1 pound a month. The only problem is it's hard to tell if you are gaining if it's only 1/4 pound a week.

    I guess you can understand the difference in gain by someone like you and someone like me.
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    Sep 23, 2013 6:17 PM GMT
    xrichx saidOMG. Don't bulk/cut. If you want to be more muscular, there are better ways to go about it. If you want to be a bear or otter or whatever, please continue.

    No, I don't want to be a bear. I don't even have that much hair to be one. I will start cutting.
    All this time I was thinking I am not eating enough as I hardly manage 3 full meal.
  • fitartistsf

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    Sep 23, 2013 7:21 PM GMT
    I'd say 20 pounds in four months is a bit much. You can probably figure 3/4 of that to be fat weight. All things being equal, the average is about 10 pounds of real muscle per year. But of course, genetics will have a play, and say, in this as well...
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    Sep 23, 2013 7:24 PM GMT
    You are not a skinny guy so you should be careful about the amount weight you want to put on.
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    Sep 23, 2013 7:43 PM GMT
    Bharatiya said
    xrichx saidOMG. Don't bulk/cut. If you want to be more muscular, there are better ways to go about it. If you want to be a bear or otter or whatever, please continue.

    No, I don't want to be a bear. I don't even have that much hair to be one. I will start cutting.
    All this time I was thinking I am not eating enough as I hardly manage 3 full meal.
    If you can pack on 20 pounds without even trying, then you definitely should not bulk/cut. Switch to a higher protein diet and save the carbs for before and after your workouts.