Anyone here whos manic/depressive

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    Nov 23, 2008 6:49 PM GMT
    I have been suffering form bipolar disorder since a long time, almost lost touch with reality and experienced religious highs and associated stuff, the incredible feeling of euphoria and the uncontrolable energy boost.

    I read at a forum on the subject that there is evidence that it may be linked to childhood sexual abuse. This disorder can be quite scary, its not just about being high one moment and down the next, especially the religious fixation wqhere you feel you have been chosen to save the world and God is directly in touch with you or angels are guiding you.

    You also start noticing signs, prophecise things, have premonitions because everything is so exaagerrated in the adrenalin high, missed out on building a fab body with all that energy, instead it went into jealousy, envy, suspicions, excessive masterbation and cruising for meaningless sexual encounters, resulting in total burnout.
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    Nov 23, 2008 6:56 PM GMT
    I've had my fair share of mental issues. My issues all resulted in drug addiction and of course sex. Gosh, it's been a long time. I haven't touched heroin in eight years.

    I get what your saying about sexual abuse and mental disorder. I believe that some people are just prone to mental disorder genetically. Sexual abuse is a different story though. Maybe the combination could cause a greater reaction. I think through medication and therapy it can be controlled. I'm free from any medication and have been for quite sometime. For me, If I write just a little music at least everyday I'm good to go. That's my therapy.
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    Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM GMT
    The simple definition for Bipolar Disorder is extream highs and and lows. I have been diagnosed with depression and have had it for years and under medication for me it was just a inherited disease. BP is manageable with the right medication and you dont have to suffer with with this controlling you and putting yourself in dangerous situations. Have your medical doctor to set you up with a psych. they are knowledgable with all the new meds out there. I know where you are comeing from i have been thru therapy and any one that tells you that you just crazy are uneducated about this depressive disorder, it is like any othr disease such diabetes and special meds are used to treat it. Best of luck.icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 23, 2008 10:21 PM GMT
    fpkhan saidI have been suffering form bipolar disorder since a long time, almost lost touch with reality and experienced religious highs and associated stuff, the incredible feeling of euphoria and the uncontrolable energy boost.

    I read at a forum on the subject that there is evidence that it may be linked to childhood sexual abuse...


    I haven't seen anything that links bipolar disorder with sexual abuse. It appears to be a spontaneous occurrence, possibly genetically based, but not situational.

    I have epilepsy, and an anticonvulsant I take is Tegretol (generically carbamazepine). A secondary use of this drug is to control bipolar disorder.

    Soon after being put on it, I experienced personality improvements consistent with someone who has bipolar disorder. I've never been diagnosed with that condition, but nevertheless the change was clear to everyone who knew me, suggesting that I may have been an undiagnosed bipolar individual.

    I recommend you consult with a medical professional, to see if you are indeed bipolar, who might benefit from medications such as carbamazepine.
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    Nov 23, 2008 11:19 PM GMT
    I am good friends with four people with bipolar disorder. I understand completely what you mean about the illness being at times scary and exhausting. My friends have been, at various times, at serious risk of harming themselves either impulsively in the throes of mania or in despair from depression. They've all made it this far. All four of them have also found substantial relief from working with skilled psychiatrists, who have got them on meds and helped them to understand how to live with the disorder. As with many psychiatric conditions, being treated for bipolar disorder can be kind of frustrating in the beginning as it is hard to predict which people will respond to which medicine and their can be side effects from the meds, which show up before any benefit. All four of my friends are on different meds and it took a couple of tries for each of them before they found ones that worked without intolerable side effects.

    One other thing: some times people with bipolar disorder also have other mental health issues, which can complicate the treatment of the bpd. Two of my friends were diagnosed with anxiety disorders, which had to be dealt with along with the bdt. Another suffers from PTSD (related to early sexual abuse). Best of luck.
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    Nov 24, 2008 12:29 AM GMT
    My sister is bipolar and her diagnosing was a blessing. Did you have specific questions about the disorder? Are you looking to know that everything can be 'okay'...because it can be pretty 'okay', if you work within your boundaries...just like everything else.
  • Hunter9

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    Nov 24, 2008 1:52 AM GMT
    anybody else read through this thread just to feel better about themselves?

    kidding, people

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    Nov 24, 2008 2:10 AM GMT
    Actually a few years ago one of my cousins OD'd on shrooms and now he is manic depressive. We didn't know he was manic until he started saying some of the craziest things I have ever heard in my life. It really opened my eyes though, his life changed FOREVER with one stupid decision. He actually ran away from home after being driven back home from work for behaving weird. The cops found him a few hours later running through a marsh at a nearby golf course. Didn't really see a question in your post, but you can become manic depressive from OD'ing on shrooms.
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    Nov 24, 2008 3:06 AM GMT
    Depression is genetic in my family on both sides. I have had several cousins and other relatives who have committed suicide in response to their bipolarity. In the past I had 3 very bad episodes, before I was diagnosed correctly. The last episode was in 1983 when I actually succeeded in killing myself with an electrical shock. Obviously, the medics were able to shock me back to life and things have been much better since then. Now, my depression and bipolarity is more under control than most in my family. I take Lexapro, eat a healthy diet, exercise, get enough sleep, good nutrition, try to balance life, etc, but still run into issues especially with SAD. Fall/Winter is very hard and very dark and depressing, with no energy and little drive or interest in anything. Spring/Summer is the opposite, high energy, almost a non-stop, nearly frantic boost in energy, energy lasts seemingly forever, mood is bright and I am mentally as sharp as I can be......life is good and I am "Mr. Positive"!...in the fall/winter I want to sleep or die, but the meds help.

    My sister is extremely Bipolar, with psychotic episodes. She is on disability retirement and is on a cycle of medications that are only marginally helpful. The side effects of the meds for her are almost as bad as the mental disability. My sister is in her mid 40's, has 2 master's degrees and a PhD, is a very intelligent and accomplished woman, trapped in a body with a mind that is just scrambled and not in touch with reality. She has been hospitalized several times, and as "funny" as it may seem, hospitals actually do have a "rubber room" for the most mentally disturbed. I have been in it with my sister as she was having a psychotic break, talking to the voices in her head and arguing why they shouldn't kill her.

    My brother is a 1 year cancer survivor and as terrifying as his cancer is, at least there is something that can be physically located and treated with some reasonable expectation of the results. My sister's mental problem is far scarier to me and even to my brother, because the meds and treatments are such a "crap shoot" with all kinds of outcomes and side effect possible.

    I understand the problems and just how terrifying and paralyzing depression and mental disorders can be. If you suffer from this or have friends or families that suffer, you have my total empathy and sympathy.
    See your DR and Get help!
    Take your meds regularly and take care of your physical health.
    Your mental health will return when the body is more balanced and in better "harmony".
    Take Care.
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    Nov 24, 2008 6:24 AM GMT
    canadianguy35 saidActually a few years ago one of my cousins OD'd on shrooms and now he is manic depressive. We didn't know he was manic until he started saying some of the craziest things I have ever heard in my life. It really opened my eyes though, his life changed FOREVER with one stupid decision. He actually ran away from home after being driven back home from work for behaving weird. The cops found him a few hours later running through a marsh at a nearby golf course. Didn't really see a question in your post, but you can become manic depressive from OD'ing on shrooms.


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    I'm not trying to challenge you but you do you have proof?
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    Nov 24, 2008 6:29 AM GMT
    CitizenSol said
    canadianguy35 saidActually a few years ago one of my cousins OD'd on shrooms and now he is manic depressive. We didn't know he was manic until he started saying some of the craziest things I have ever heard in my life. It really opened my eyes though, his life changed FOREVER with one stupid decision. He actually ran away from home after being driven back home from work for behaving weird. The cops found him a few hours later running through a marsh at a nearby golf course. Didn't really see a question in your post, but you can become manic depressive from OD'ing on shrooms.


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    I'm not trying to challenge you but you do you have proof?


    exactly... i find it very unlikely that shrooms could cause manic depression... maybe it brings it out of them, but CAUSES it.... i dont think so
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    Nov 24, 2008 6:32 AM GMT
    yep, i've been diagnosed with it; however, the meds make me feel worse, so i don't use them. serzone and zyprexa both were horrible experiences for me.

    anyway, what is your question or observation?
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    Nov 24, 2008 6:56 AM GMT
    dancerjack saidyep, i've been diagnosed with it; however, the meds make me feel worse, so i don't use them. serzone and zyprexa both were horrible experiences for me.

    anyway, what is your question or observation?


    Dancerjack, how do you control your manic episodes without the medicine?

    Have you tried newer ones.... like Abilify or Risperdal?

    I know Zyprexa is a miserable drug, I work on an inpatient Psych unit....
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    Nov 24, 2008 7:00 AM GMT
    to be honest all of this has become less of an issue since i left my last boyfriend two years ago - he left me in a situation whereby i had to concentrate so much on work and bills that i'm simply too drained to be manic much anymore. plus i've not had insurance since 2005, so medication isn't an option anyway.

    i never swung up as much as i swung down. i was diagnosed bipolar type II, which i guess means i spend more time in one direction than the other (although the sudden, constant, tirbulent swings were fairly unbearable for many years). i had many bursts/fits of mania, but even more slumps (which lasted longer) down into the depressions.

    at any rate, i work myself to death and don't have time or energy to dwell on being up or down. i'm just trying to survive in a bush economy. sorry if that seems simplex, but it's all i can come up with on so little sleep.
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    Nov 24, 2008 7:04 AM GMT
    I just smash all the mirrors in the house. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 24, 2008 7:05 AM GMT
    i got rid of mine, or hung them at levels too high or too low to actually use for anything but decoration.
  • marko313

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    Nov 24, 2008 7:30 AM GMT
    Im bi-polar and manac depressive but since i been in therapy and meds for 5 years i been alble to cope with my illlness
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    Dec 10, 2008 2:24 PM GMT

    I learned that I was bi-polar at the age of 24 but my actual experience
    with this old demon started at the age of 6 or 7. I recally the first time I was really depressed, I was excited about getting boxing gloves as a present and two days later was supposed to go out back and try them out. I was so unmotivated to do so I recall moving things to barricade my bedroom door. I think that was my first bout with depression/anxiety.

    36 now and still Bi-Polar but I am a lot more well equipped to deal with it. I grew up with in in silence and many around me looked the other way because they didn't know how to cope with my serious lack of motivation or inability to speak for hours on end. Shit I don't blame you folks I wasn't having much fun with it either was the attitude I had. I suffered a full breakdown at 24, for seven days I was unable to leave my apartment at all, I was sure if I did that my mind would tear open and I would be truly insane. I sought help because a friend of mine found me that way and the look in his eyes was enough for me to get over my doubts about moder psychiatry.

    I still struggle with it to this day, we have a good fight weekly but I don't let it control me, my mind might be disfunctioning but its kept strong and I have discovered that boxing is a good thearputic activity. Someplace to put the excess anger and fears, I just hit a bag because I am not sure about hitting others or doing the damage i know I could. Fear is the bigger part of depression. I am open to any who suffer from it and need someone who relates to reply.

    Stay strong, deal with life or it deals with you as they say. I mean it's hard being a homosexual with all the ignorance out there, I felt like being a man with a mental disorder was also just as misunderstood.
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    Jul 26, 2009 6:01 PM GMT
    http://www.truehealth.org/break02.html possibley curable with trace elements in eating seafood daily.

    Actually I just wanted to know if its due to childhodd sex abuse, because I have been having sexual desires since I was maybe five years old, and a longing for much older men like dads and grandads.

    I am scared of medication, I have only taken anti-depreassants Prozac with seemed to have added to my high, and Zoloft which didnt work in any way as well as an anti-psychotic which also didnt work, except supress sexual desire.

    Also it seems none of my psychs were able to analyse BPD and I visited alot of them, some were so expensive, also throughtout the visits I couldnt help but feel all I need is to be somewhere away from people I know and I will be fine, but I dont know would have been unleasehed form inside had I done that, it actually felt like I was posessed and something else was wanting to live through me or say things, as I had this urge to say things, but I didnt know what.
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    Jul 26, 2009 7:07 PM GMT
    You probably know this already but in case you don't, there are special light fixtures you can sit in front of that emit the correct type of light to help reverse the effects of SAD. I've seen them. They're not very big and I think not too expensive.




    [quote][cite]Sporty_g said[/cite]Depression is genetic in my family on both sides. I have had several cousins and other relatives who have committed suicide in response to their bipolarity. In the past I had 3 very bad episodes, before I was diagnosed correctly. The last episode was in 1983 when I actually succeeded in killing myself with an electrical shock. Obviously, the medics were able to shock me back to life and things have been much better since then. Now, my depression and bipolarity is more under control than most in my family. I take Lexapro, eat a healthy diet, exercise, get enough sleep, good nutrition, try to balance life, etc, but still run into issues especially with SAD. Fall/Winter is very hard and very dark and depressing, with no energy and little drive or interest in anything. Spring/Summer is the opposite, high energy, almost a non-stop, nearly frantic boost in energy, energy lasts seemingly forever, mood is bright and I am mentally as sharp as I can be......life is good and I am "Mr. Positive"!...in the fall/winter I want to sleep or die, but the meds help.