Government Shutdown Over...for now

  • metta

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    Sep 24, 2013 4:49 PM GMT
    UPDATE

    Obama signs bill to end partial shutdown, stave off debt ceiling crisis

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html

    House approves bill to end shutdown

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/16/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html





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    Shutdown: Here Is What Will Happen If Congress Doesn’t Get Its Act Together By Monday

    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2669501/here-is-what-will-happen-if-the-government-shuts-down/
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    Sep 24, 2013 7:44 PM GMT
    It's about time they take a stand. Someone has to be an adult and say "NO".
  • creature

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    Sep 24, 2013 10:59 PM GMT
    Shutting it down would be irresponsible, especially for the reason they're citing. Whether or not the government is shutdown, I hope the GOP pays for it in the next election.
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    Sep 24, 2013 11:03 PM GMT
    They're figure it out at the 11th hour. Too bad the US government has to continue to govern by crisis.
  • Webster666

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    Sep 24, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    We survived the last 2 times they did it.
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    Sep 25, 2013 12:00 AM GMT
    Didn't there used to be a better way than always by crisis or is my feeble old memory failing. Yeah, I know .. the answer is both. Did we really go through this 40 or 50 years ago? On everything?
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 25, 2013 1:01 AM GMT
    Blakes7 saidIt's about time they take a stand. Someone has to be an adult and say "NO".


    Saying "no" to everything is actually a developmental hallmark associated with two year-olds.

    http://pediatrics.about.com/od/toddlers/a/05_terrble_twos.htmCharacterized by toddlers being negative about most things and often saying 'no', the terrible twos may also find your toddler having frequent mood changes and temper tantrums.


    Adults actually have constructive ideas of their own. Toddlers don't, which is why they just whine, cry, and say no all the time -- which makes sense because they're toddlers. It's not a good look for grown folk.

    Republicans' continued inability to understand the difference between adult behavior and childish behavior is why they cannot win the White House and why they will out of power in Congress for a generation once redistricting can no longer save them.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 25, 2013 3:43 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidWhat are they taking a stand for, exactly?


    Small gubmit!
    Jawbs!
    They comin' to git my guns!
    Liberuls!
    Because Jesus!
    Bengawzi!

    Or something.
  • metta

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    Sep 25, 2013 7:41 AM GMT
    What the Republicans are going to win in this shutdown fight

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/24/1241036/-What-the-Republicans-are-going-to-win-in-this-shutdown-fight
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    Sep 25, 2013 10:15 AM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    Blakes7 saidIt's about time they take a stand. Someone has to be an adult and say "NO".

    Among all the nonsense that has dribbled out of your mouth, that has to be the silliest. What are they taking a stand for, exactly? It's just petulance. They lost an election. By their definition, any Democrat in the White House is illegitimate. Only this one's....(drum roll please)....BLACK.



    Stop pointing out the color of the president's skin, obviously that only matters to you. I admit they will probably lose, since they always eventually give in and approve the anti-constitutional, communist agenda. It's just nice to see when they make an effort every once in a while.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 30, 2013 10:15 AM GMT
    metta8 saidWhat the Republicans are going to win in this shutdown fight

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/24/1241036/-What-the-Republicans-are-going-to-win-in-this-shutdown-fight


    All Republican politicians are going to win is a chance to go home and be with their families once voters get rid of them.

    In that respect, America will win too.
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    Sep 30, 2013 10:27 AM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    metta8 saidWhat the Republicans are going to win in this shutdown fight

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/24/1241036/-What-the-Republicans-are-going-to-win-in-this-shutdown-fight


    All Republican politicians are going to win is a chance to go home and be with their families once voters get rid of them.

    In that respect, America will win too.


    Only if you consider socialism a "win".
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 30, 2013 10:35 AM GMT
    Blakes7 said
    TroyAthlete said
    metta8 saidWhat the Republicans are going to win in this shutdown fight

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/24/1241036/-What-the-Republicans-are-going-to-win-in-this-shutdown-fight


    All Republican politicians are going to win is a chance to go home and be with their families once voters get rid of them.

    In that respect, America will win too.


    Only if you consider socialism a "win".


    No, I consider the following a win:

    1) Not having to listen to Republicans dishonestly decry as socialism a very capitalistic healthcare proposal with no public option, originally conceived to oppose Hillarycare at the urging of the GOP by the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank.

    2) The political sanity that will result from no longer having to listen to Republicans twist themselves into political knots to oppose their own ideas just out of a pathological, spiteful need to say 'no' to Democrats just because.

    3) Once again seeing Republicans try to explain why their scare-mongering, pessimistic, doomsday predictions on healthcare reform never came true -- as has happened in the past with Medicare, the DADT repeal, and the Clinton tax hikes just to name a few.

    #winning
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    Sep 30, 2013 10:54 AM GMT
    These republicans are serious drama queens. All whining and crying and doing nothing until the very last minute. I was like this once, in junior high school with term papers.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Sep 30, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    madfacts saidThese republicans are serious drama queens. All whining and crying and doing nothing until the very last minute. I was like this once, in junior high school with term papers.


    More and more voters are turned off daily by the constant whining, crying from temper tantrum-ing conservative Republicans, led by Rand Paul and Ted Cruz.

    These guys are selfish, irresponsible toddlers who have no business near any positions of power.
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    Sep 30, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    Blakes7 saidIt's about time they take a stand. Someone has to be an adult and say "NO".


    So you're good with everyone in the military being paid with IOUs?

    "The good news (for you) is that the men and women in uniform would continue to keep you safe. The bad news (for them) is that they'd be paid in IOUs until the shutdown ended. In January, Sens. Mark Udall, D-Colorado, and Jerry Moran, R-Kansas, introduced legislation that would have protected pay for the troops during a shutdown, but it didn't get anywhere."

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/23/politics/government-shutdown-daily-life/index.html
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    Sep 30, 2013 4:29 PM GMT
    THE USA FED GOVT is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DIFFERENT then Detroit when it comes to how they keep spending $$$$$$$ No freaking different...... hence they need to start over as Detroit is doing. PS I'm a USA citizen and live in Michigan
  • metta

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    Sep 30, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    CNN Host Asks GOP Representatives Whether They’d Give Up Their Salary During A Shutdown, Hilarity Ensues





    http://thinkprogress.org/media/2013/09/30/2701111/speechless-blackburn-rohrabacher/
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    Sep 30, 2013 6:20 PM GMT
    Quick! Someone tell the king the sky's falling!!
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    Sep 30, 2013 7:06 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    Blakes7 saidIt's about time they take a stand. Someone has to be an adult and say "NO".

    Among all the nonsense that has dribbled out of your mouth, that has to be the silliest.


    Out of his mouth? You're too generous.
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Sep 30, 2013 7:17 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    Blakes7 said
    TroyAthlete said
    metta8 saidWhat the Republicans are going to win in this shutdown fight

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/09/24/1241036/-What-the-Republicans-are-going-to-win-in-this-shutdown-fight


    All Republican politicians are going to win is a chance to go home and be with their families once voters get rid of them.

    In that respect, America will win too.


    Only if you consider socialism a "win".


    No, I consider the following a win:

    1) Not having to listen to Republicans dishonestly decry as socialism a very capitalistic healthcare proposal with no public option, originally conceived to oppose Hillarycare at the urging of the GOP by the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank.

    2) The political sanity that will result from no longer having to listen to Republicans twist themselves into political knots to oppose their own ideas just out of a pathological, spiteful need to say 'no' to Democrats just because.

    3) Once again seeing Republicans try to explain why their scare-mongering, pessimistic, doomsday predictions on healthcare reform never came true -- as has happened in the past with Medicare, the DADT repeal, and the Clinton tax hikes just to name a few.

    #winning


    THIS!!

    It amazes me that the radical far right looks at anything and anyone a centimeter to the left of a Hostess Twinkie and calls it/them "Socialist." Those scared souls need to understand Ward and June don't live next door anymore....and Ozzie and Harriet are dead.
  • musclmed

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    Sep 30, 2013 9:04 PM GMT
    Well the government is out of money. The constitution puts that power to raise money and appropriate money with the Congress. The Congress is split with majorities on both sides. This is part of the political process.

    If there were no check on spending who knows if we would even exist today as a country.

    Even in situation where the was a passed budget programs were cut or eliminated. Medicare, social security all have been subject to the budgetary process. The amnesty for illegal aliens "legislation" of the 80's had mandatory provisions for border security that were purposely cut by the democrats.

    Within the 80's there were about a dozen government shutdowns for far less.
  • Lincsbear

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    Sep 30, 2013 10:00 PM GMT
    Is this the US I once admired, that the world is supposed to admire?
  • musclmed

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    Sep 30, 2013 10:08 PM GMT
    Lincsbear saidIs this the US I once admired, that the world is supposed to admire?


    The government shutdown over 12 times in the 80's over far less......... Did you read that in the paper?
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    Sep 30, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    Lincsbear saidIs this the US I once admired, that the world is supposed to admire?


    The government shutdown over 12 times in the 80's over far less......... Did you read that in the paper?


    Ronald Reagan was president from Jan. 1981 to Jan. 1989.
    Do you know the circumstances of these government shutdowns during Reagan's tenure?