Don't donate to the Salvation Army

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    Sep 24, 2013 9:58 PM GMT
    The holidays are just around the corner and donations are in need, but I ran into this today and I can not, and will not donate to the Salvation Army. My money is going to Red Cross from today forward.

    http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/10/salvation-army-says-gays-need-to-be-put-to-death
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
    [url]http://www.salvationarmyusa.org/usn/www_usn_2.nsf/0/FAB244EBCDF2C9FB85257A290051EC74/$file/Salvation%20Army%20Australia%20response%20regarding%20radio%20interview%20concerning%20homosexuality%20June%202012.pdf[/url]
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    Don't need to click the links, got the Moe Memo 12 years ago.
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 24, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    Goodwill also discriminates against gays.
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    Mesmer saidThe holidays are just around the corner and donations are in need, but I ran into this today and I can not, and will not donate to the Salvation Army. My money is going to Red Cross from today forward.

    http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/10/salvation-army-says-gays-need-to-be-put-to-death

    Hopefully this doesn't come as a surprise; they've always been a Christian organization.
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
    I didn't know about this till now. I always donated whenever I saw one outside of my grocery store. icon_sad.gif
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:26 PM GMT
    There's a Salvation Army church not far from me. You don't see those very often; it was the first one I'd ever seen.
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    Read first: http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/salvationarmy.asp

    The Salvation Army does discriminate as it sees fit in hiring and also applying conditions to those charities and individuals it helps. They certainly do some good works for charity. That said, they are welcome to keep doing those good works without any donations from me.
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
    1969er saidRead first: http://www.snopes.com/politics/sexuality/salvationarmy.asp

    The Salvation Army does discriminate as it sees fit in hiring and also applying conditions to those charities and individuals it helps. They certainly do some good works for charity. That said, they are welcome to keep doing those good works without any donations from me.

    Good decision.
  • BillandChuck

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    Sep 24, 2013 10:44 PM GMT
    Destinharbor saidGoodwill also discriminates against gays.

    Citing? Everything we've seen in the past few years says that Goodwill has gotten with the program and has participated in Pride in stores in many parts of the nation, has revised its employment policy, etc.

    The Salvation Army, however, remains egregiously anti-LGBT (among other antis). Yes, it does some very good charitable work, and God bless them ( icon_biggrin.gif ) for that. But as has already been stated, they can do their selective, anti-gay, good work without our donations.
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    Sep 24, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
    BillandChuck said
    Destinharbor saidGoodwill also discriminates against gays.

    Citing? Everything we've seen in the past few years says that Goodwill has gotten with the program and has participated in Pride in stores in many parts of the nation, has revised its employment policy, etc.


    And the head honcho receives over a million $$$ in annual compensation...icon_mad.gif
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    Sep 24, 2013 11:01 PM GMT
    turbobilly said
    BillandChuck said
    Destinharbor saidGoodwill also discriminates against gays.

    Citing? Everything we've seen in the past few years says that Goodwill has gotten with the program and has participated in Pride in stores in many parts of the nation, has revised its employment policy, etc.


    And the head honcho receives over a million $$$ in annual compensation...icon_mad.gif

    You will, no doubt, find that said head honcho is one of the most successful CEOs in non-profit, based on the performance standards of fund-raising and donations-to-administrative costs. Very few non-profits operate with uncompensated administration. Though, notably, ETAF did from its inception (though it was because Elizabeth Taylor funded that amazing charity's administrative costs in total, and arguably that was just Enron-esque accounting because realistically she was just contributing that to ETAF, and it was used for administrative costs . . . but we digress). It falls under the category of "you get what you pay for".
  • BillandChuck

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    Sep 24, 2013 11:08 PM GMT
    youmotherfixers saidfuck all these organizations asking for donations where the money never goes to where they say it's going to. i would rather just give someone that needs the food, clothing or the money upfront.

    La Fundación Eva Perón comes to mind. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 24, 2013 11:10 PM GMT
    Mesmer saidI didn't know about this till now. I always donated whenever I saw one outside of my grocery store. icon_sad.gif


    And as you walk past them from now on, tell them why you are no longer donating. That way, they are getting feed-back.

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    Sep 24, 2013 11:17 PM GMT
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    Mesmer saidI didn't know about this till now. I always donated whenever I saw one outside of my grocery store. icon_sad.gif


    And as you walk past them from now on, tell them why you are no longer donating. That way, they are getting feed-back.


    Actually used to go out of my way to do this, but sadly I realized the person(s) ringing the bell are clueless.
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    Sep 24, 2013 11:19 PM GMT
    Thanks for the post.

    Gay charities offer a better use of money. They will take your old goods and small cash donations for HIV prevention and homeless gay youth. They exist in just about every city.
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    Sep 24, 2013 11:44 PM GMT
    Tangiers saidThanks for the post.

    Gay charities offer a better use of money. They will take your old goods and small cash donations for HIV prevention and homeless gay youth. They exist in just about every city.

    THANK YOU!

    And I work with a number of them, that RJ Admin Chris has told me in the past I could mention here without it being Spam.

    This link below lists the seven South Florida HIV/AIDS non-profit agencies for whom our annual SMART Ride raises money. Donate to them directly if you prefer, plus our SMART Ride itself is also a 501(c)(3) not-for-profit.

    100% of what our rider participants raise go to these agencies. NOT ONE PENNY goes to salaries, staff, and overhead.

    The SMART Ride
  • widestance

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    Sep 25, 2013 12:07 AM GMT
    But you're going to donate to the Red Cross, that has discriminatory policies in regards to accepting blood from gay men?

    http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130924/GJLIFESTYLES/130919164/-1/SANNEWS
  • Import

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    Sep 25, 2013 12:53 AM GMT
    I'm about to sound rachet as fuck, but i dont donate to anyone.
    wtf? I got to take care of numero uno first.

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    Sep 25, 2013 1:14 AM GMT
    As usual we only pick battles that land on our own door step. You won't donate to the salvation army because you feel slighted as a gay man and their discrimantory practice yet you're wearing Hollister sweat pants who also practices discrimination in hiring. Talk about the pot calling the kettle blackicon_rolleyes.gificon_eek.gif
  • ThatSwimmerGu...

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    Sep 25, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
    I prefer donating my time because I see where it goes. But not to Salvation Army.
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    Sep 25, 2013 1:51 AM GMT
    Mesmer saidThe holidays are just around the corner and donations are in need, but I ran into this today and I can not, and will not donate to the Salvation Army. My money is going to Red Cross from today forward.

    http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/10/salvation-army-says-gays-need-to-be-put-to-death


    Why is the Red Cross still holding 1/3 (100 million) of the money it collected for Superstorm Sandy?
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    Sep 25, 2013 2:30 AM GMT
    How many gays has the Salvation Army put to death?
    Answer: 0

    Why did obama just promise additional support to Kenya:

    In Kenya, homosexuality carries a sentence of up to 14 years, 21 with extenuating circumstances. According to the Kenya Human Rights Commission, security forces routinely harass, arrest, and detain LGBT Kenyans, and they demand bribes or sex in exchange for leniency. Those who refuse are sometimes raped.
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    Sep 25, 2013 2:55 AM GMT
    My charity:

    [url][/url]

    When you view this video and feel moved to help, please feel free as they provide a great service for those affected by HIV/AIDS in Central Florida. Also, they provide a mobile testing bus and a food pantry.

    www.hopeandhelp.org
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    Sep 25, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidMy charity:

    [url][/url]

    When you view this video and feel moved to help, please feel free as they provide a great service for those affected by HIV/AIDS in Central Florida. Also, they provide a mobile testing bus and a food pantry.

    www.hopeandhelp.org


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