Dangers of Crossfit??

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    Sep 26, 2013 4:04 PM GMT
    I still want to check out crossfit. But apparently you can work your muscles until the cells die. The dieing muscle cell material can overload the kidneys and damage them too.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-robertson/crossfit-rhabdomyolysis_b_3977598.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
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    Sep 26, 2013 10:10 PM GMT
    You don't actually think you have to be inside a CrossFit gym to get Rhabdo do you?
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    Sep 27, 2013 4:06 AM GMT
    Crossfit style training has been around for a very long time. They have simply named and branded HIT (high intensity training). Some good and some bad parts about crossfit, the good is the body weight style exercises and the bad is when they try to perform power lifting movements for a high rep count. Anyone with a degree in sports medicine/athletic training knows that power movements are meant for very low reps and usually the lifter will reset to ensure proper form before the next attempt. Unfortunately these weekend certification classes are not teaching this. Stick with a basic high intensity program and save some money.
  • Whipmagic

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    Sep 27, 2013 4:08 AM GMT
    You can be stupid and work yourself to death with pretty much any workout routine, including crossfit. Or, you can pay attention to your body and work had, but within reason. No matter whether it's crossfit or something else. Take your pick.
  • Whipmagic

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    Sep 27, 2013 4:14 AM GMT
    And I agree with the above about the dangers of the power lifts for high rep counts. You absolutely have to leave your ego at the door when it comes to those, no matter how competitive the box may be. If you sense that your form is going to shit, slow down, take some weights off, and live to fight another day.
  • RaggedyMan

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    Sep 27, 2013 4:32 AM GMT
    Its your body and you are the only one who can tell yourself enough is enough. Being sore is one thing but training until you cant move cuz it hurts so much is just stupid. Like ^ they said, working out and pushing yourself over the limit with any exercise isnt good.
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    Sep 27, 2013 4:55 AM GMT
    So here's the truth. You can work your muscles till the cells die doing any exercise. I'm serious anything. It just so happens that someone had this happen and took crossfit. However, your body has signals that go off telling you to rest. That person obviously ignored them, and in addition probably was not fueling her body well enough for the level of activity she was engaging in. So It's not really a danger of crossfit it's more like a stupid person who needs to learn her limits.
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    Sep 27, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
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  • mybud

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    Sep 27, 2013 2:28 PM GMT
    People are dying of gluttony...drug use...etc. This was a slow news week so the media decided to use crossfit to shock and scare the public..Never believe the hype..They'll report some evening that the sky is falling...you'll dive under the bed and a fox will eat ya....Carry on.
  • DanOmatic

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    Sep 27, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    It's interesting to see the crossfit folks at my gym. When they deign to come out of their "box" it's usually to grab all of the equipment from the other part of the gym and then, having pilfered much of the equipment (that never seems to be put back), scurry back to their box to grunt loudly and yell enthusiastically and inexplicably. Then, upon leaving, they high-five and slap each other on the shoulder self-congratulatory (and loudly) as if to announce to everyone else their obvious superiority to everyone else.

    Meh.
  • sportsjockla

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    Sep 27, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    Stay as far away from crossfit as you can! Unless you want to be injured
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    Sep 27, 2013 6:52 PM GMT
    That article is such bullshit. You're more likely to get in a car accident driving from gym to gym trying to find a trainer who is dumb enough to have you do a workout that you could get rhabdo from then you are to actually get rhabdo.

    Yes, CrossFit certification is not enough to be a CrossFit trainer. A person should have more than just that knowledge. (Coming from a CrossFit gym owner, and Exercise Science graduate here!)

    No, CrossFit ideals by themselves are not dangerous. It's when they are misapplied that there will be issues.

    Look at these two links as examples. First, a blog post is response to that "Dirty Little Secrets" article, discussing what is incorrect about that authors claims.

    http://crossfitr3.com/wods-blog/2013/9/25/response-to-crossfits-dirty-little-secret WFS

    Second, a link about 12 high school football players who all got Rhabdo from a football training session. Should we call to stop all involvement in football because some coaches are just the father of one of the players while other coaches are skilled and qualified??

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/24/sports/24tissue.html?_r=1& WFS


    Seriously, use common sense and find a knowledgeable trainer and then listen to your body!
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    Sep 27, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
    If you know what you're doing and you're doing the exercises correctly and with common sense, go for it and CrossFit to your heart's content. However, a lot of CrossFitters, especially those that are just starting out don't do things like they should, especially when they start fatiguing and push themselves past what is safe, hurting their back, knees, shoulders, etc. CrossFit itself isn't bad, but some novice CrossFitters (or those new to fitness in the first place) don't know what they're doing.

    Even with seasoned CrossFitters. There's a PT clinic that my former CI co-owns with other PTs that's right above a CrossFit gym. 75% of their clients are the CrossFitters. One of the gym owners actually developed rhabdomyolosis from working out too hard, for too long. Got admitted to the ER and hospital for a week as he recovered from renal impairment. And the PTs at the clinic are also avid CrossFitters.
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    Sep 27, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    The article is obviously written to get a certain reaction probably for readership but a it's kind of obvious the author doesn't have much experience with CrossFit.

    Dirty little secret? How can it be both a secret and have a clown where CrossFit openly talks about the risk (that the author openly acknowledges):
    http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/38_05_cf_rhabdo.pdf

    Also - the article is devoid of facts but depends on conjecture and scaremongering (he notes the general risk but doesn't actually quantify how prevalent it is in CrossFit - and no one I know has gotten it, and none to my knowledge at my box). As others have noted, you can get it from any kind of exercise - but if you do a bit more reading of the condition, it's caused by doing too much too soon.

    But if there's a reason to do/watch CrossFit?
    "Don't miss the 2013 Reebok CrossFit Games on ESPN, starting October 2nd!"
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    Sep 27, 2013 11:21 PM GMT
    DanOmatic saidIt's interesting to see the crossfit folks at my gym. When they deign to come out of their "box" it's usually to grab all of the equipment from the other part of the gym and then, having pilfered much of the equipment (that never seems to be put back), scurry back to their box to grunt loudly and yell enthusiastically and inexplicably. Then, upon leaving, they high-five and slap each other on the shoulder self-congratulatory (and loudly) as if to announce to everyone else their obvious superiority to everyone else.

    Meh.



    Ummm.....why are CrossFitters in your regular gym? Please don't confuse a knockoff "CrossFit" class in a regular gym as an actual CrossFit affiliate. Hoarding equipment to do a class would be annoying as hell, no matter what the class was. CrossFit should be done in a CrossFit gym, so that people not interested in it do not get disturbed.

    But complaining about their enthusiasm and high-fiving each other reeks of jealousy. Like you've never had to endure some roid-head grunt and yell as he's bench pressing. In this day and age where America's obesity rate is through the roof, I think it's a bit petty to complain about people being excited to workout. Just keep your headphones in and continue to do your bicep curls in front of the mirror and hopefully it will drown out those crazy enthusiastic people.
  • DanOmatic

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    Sep 28, 2013 1:49 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    DanOmatic saidIt's interesting to see the crossfit folks at my gym. When they deign to come out of their "box" it's usually to grab all of the equipment from the other part of the gym and then, having pilfered much of the equipment (that never seems to be put back), scurry back to their box to grunt loudly and yell enthusiastically and inexplicably. Then, upon leaving, they high-five and slap each other on the shoulder self-congratulatory (and loudly) as if to announce to everyone else their obvious superiority to everyone else.

    Meh.



    Ummm.....why are CrossFitters in your regular gym? Please don't confuse a knockoff "CrossFit" class in a regular gym as an actual CrossFit affiliate. Hoarding equipment to do a class would be annoying as hell, no matter what the class was. CrossFit should be done in a CrossFit gym, so that people not interested in it do not get disturbed.

    But complaining about their enthusiasm and high-fiving each other reeks of jealousy. Like you've never had to endure some roid-head grunt and yell as he's bench pressing. In this day and age where America's obesity rate is through the roof, I think it's a bit petty to complain about people being excited to workout. Just keep your headphones in and continue to do your bicep curls in front of the mirror and hopefully it will drown out those crazy enthusiastic people.


    I can see where you might think that, but actually, I am a national champion and world championship qualifier in sports that require serious amounts of dedication and grit. So, I'm no stranger to the rigors of working out and what it takes to succeed. And I work out regularly with other badass athletes with impressive credentials. But we simply go out and do what we do without all of the over-the-top gusto. You just do it. And then we go out and drink beers with our buddies afterwards and talk about things that have nothing to do with working out.
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    Sep 28, 2013 3:30 AM GMT
    Yet another bias crossfit article.

    Remember, not all crossfit gyms are created equal.

    Check your egos, know your limitations, and you will avoid unnecessary harm on your body -- this applies to all types of fitness training!

    I am not going to preach about the good of crossfit here. I am not going to force you to drink the kool-aide. Just stick to the fitness regiment that produces your desired outcome. Mine just happens to be crossfit.

    Now, everyone, chill!

    Cheers
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    Sep 28, 2013 4:36 AM GMT
    DanOmatic said
    Scruffypup said
    DanOmatic saidIt's interesting to see the crossfit folks at my gym. When they deign to come out of their "box" it's usually to grab all of the equipment from the other part of the gym and then, having pilfered much of the equipment (that never seems to be put back), scurry back to their box to grunt loudly and yell enthusiastically and inexplicably. Then, upon leaving, they high-five and slap each other on the shoulder self-congratulatory (and loudly) as if to announce to everyone else their obvious superiority to everyone else.

    Meh.



    Ummm.....why are CrossFitters in your regular gym? Please don't confuse a knockoff "CrossFit" class in a regular gym as an actual CrossFit affiliate. Hoarding equipment to do a class would be annoying as hell, no matter what the class was. CrossFit should be done in a CrossFit gym, so that people not interested in it do not get disturbed.

    But complaining about their enthusiasm and high-fiving each other reeks of jealousy. Like you've never had to endure some roid-head grunt and yell as he's bench pressing. In this day and age where America's obesity rate is through the roof, I think it's a bit petty to complain about people being excited to workout. Just keep your headphones in and continue to do your bicep curls in front of the mirror and hopefully it will drown out those crazy enthusiastic people.


    I can see where you might think that, but actually, I am a national champion and world championship qualifier in sports that require serious amounts of dedication and grit. So, I'm no stranger to the rigors of working out and what it takes to succeed. And I work out regularly with other badass athletes with impressive credentials. But we simply go out and do what we do without all of the over-the-top gusto. You just do it. And then we go out and drink beers with our buddies afterwards and talk about things that have nothing to do with working out.



    I'm still curious to know why CrossFit is taking place in a traditional gym. CrossFit is normally done in huge warehouses with no heat or AC, which is why they call them "boxes" instead of "gyms."
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    Sep 28, 2013 7:19 AM GMT
    riddler78 said
    But if there's a reason to do/watch CrossFit?
    "Don't miss the 2013 Reebok CrossFit Games on ESPN, starting October 2nd!"
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    def gonna watch this...putting it in my phone reminder now icon_biggrin.gif
    #thankyou #fitspo
  • DanOmatic

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    Sep 28, 2013 11:22 AM GMT
    I'm still curious to know why CrossFit is taking place in a traditional gym. CrossFit is normally done in huge warehouses with no heat or AC, which is why they call them "boxes" instead of "gyms." [/quote]

    Scruff, at my own gym, they converted an area of the gym into a separate glassed-in space that is locked and accessible only to those who pay a higher crossfit (or knock-off crossfit) premium. The reason regular gyms do this is because they can make money off of it. There are a lot of people who've joined the bandwagon and are willing to pay higher memberships to be part of the crossfit club, or whatever is passed off as crossfit.
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    Sep 28, 2013 11:44 AM GMT
    mybud saidPeople are dying of gluttony...drug use...etc. This was a slow news week so the media decided to use crossfit to shock and scare the public..Never believe the hype..They'll report some evening that the sky is falling...you'll dive under the bed and a fox will eat ya....Carry on.


    Great response.

    Just because it is healthy, doesn't mean excess is not harmful.
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    Sep 28, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    But if there's a reason to do/watch CrossFit?
    "Don't miss the 2013 Reebok CrossFit Games on ESPN, starting October 2nd!"
    1239821_10151611091937676_628064194_n.jp


    def gonna watch this...putting it in my phone reminder now icon_biggrin.gif
    #thankyou #fitspo

    ... icon_eek.gif Holy hotfuck! YES!!! icon_smile.gif
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    Sep 29, 2013 2:09 AM GMT
    I started Crossfit two weeks ago and am completely loving it. I'm going slowly, stretching because of the ridiculous soreness from unused muscles I am now rediscovering, but overall not really scared about Rhabdomyolysis. Also, I like knowing everyone's name when working out; feels more communal.
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    Sep 29, 2013 2:15 AM GMT
    riddler78 saidThe article is obviously written to get a certain reaction probably for readership but a it's kind of obvious the author doesn't have much experience with CrossFit.

    Dirty little secret? How can it be both a secret and have a clown where CrossFit openly talks about the risk (that the author openly acknowledges):
    http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/38_05_cf_rhabdo.pdf

    Also - the article is devoid of facts but depends on conjecture and scaremongering (he notes the general risk but doesn't actually quantify how prevalent it is in CrossFit - and no one I know has gotten it, and none to my knowledge at my box). As others have noted, you can get it from any kind of exercise - but if you do a bit more reading of the condition, it's caused by doing too much too soon.

    But if there's a reason to do/watch CrossFit?
    "Don't miss the 2013 Reebok CrossFit Games on ESPN, starting October 2nd!"
    1239821_10151611091937676_628064194_n.jp



    Yup, all these guys look like they should be in the emergency room.
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    Sep 29, 2013 3:02 AM GMT
    The main dangers of crossfit is to your wallet. icon_lol.gif