Moving music video about LGBT violence

  • lakumba

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    Sep 28, 2013 1:16 AM GMT
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/hozier-take-me-to-church_n_3991405.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
  • Buddha

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    Oct 25, 2013 1:01 AM GMT
    A friend showed me this yesterday. I really like it, although it made me really uncomfortable in a good way. I mean of course I've read about all these cases, but seeing it like this was really unnverving: a kind of utter hopelessness.

    The hollow feel to the music really fits the video well too.

    Here's the video for those who are too lazy to click on the link:

  • killercliche

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    Oct 25, 2013 6:13 AM GMT
    This is really fucking good.
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    Oct 25, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    Super disturbing. Interesting form of protest.

    Some protest songs call to action



    Others seek to unify



    Some report on the news of the day



    Some make mockery of the status quo



    But this one seems to draw the listener/viewer into the plight. My only issue with it is that the lyrics--though good--are so metaphorical that I don't know if it would be as effective without the video.

    It plays well on a home computer, or, I'd imagine, to kids sporting ear buds and with their faces in their iphones as is the fashion of the day, but I don't know how it might play to history. Though the impression may linger and thereby work more than suitably as a protest song, the art of it seems curiously powerful yet possibly self limiting by requiring technology to pull it off.

    Just listened again. The guy's voice is stunning. It's a beautiful piece.
  • killercliche

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    Oct 25, 2013 6:06 PM GMT
    theantijock said

    But this one seems to draw the listener/viewer into to plight. My only issue with it is that the lyrics--though good--are so metaphorical that I don't know if it would be as effective without the video.


    The song really isn't about the video. It's a sort of "godless" love song to a female. The sex represent religion etc.

    But the video is such a clever re imagination of the song that when you listen to the song with the visuals the story of the young men captivates the watcher and certain lyrics work more as highlights to the story and the lyrics that are off topic aren't heard so much, I think. I find it to be pretty moving.
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    Oct 25, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
    killercliche said
    theantijock said

    But this one seems to draw the listener/viewer into the plight. My only issue with it is that the lyrics--though good--are so metaphorical that I don't know if it would be as effective without the video.


    The song really isn't about the video. It's a sort of "godless" love song to a female. The sex represent religion etc.

    But the video is such a clever re imagination of the song that when you listen to the song with the visuals the story of the young men captivates the watcher and certain lyrics work more as highlights to the story and the lyrics that are off topic aren't heard so much, I think. I find it to be pretty moving.


    So you're saying this wasn't meant to be a protest song nor initially integrated with the video. Do you have info on that? I was initially thrown by the female reference but figured that to be a closet reference. Hold on lemme google what I can find on this....



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    Oct 25, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
    http://thejournalist.ie/entertainment/music-video-hozier-take-church/
    Commenting on the video’s theme and concept, Hozier has said.

    “The video references the recent increase of organised attacked and torturing of homosexuals in Russia, which is subsequent to a long, hateful and oppressive political campaign against the LGBT Community.

    The song was always about humanity at its most natural, and how that is undermined ceaselessly by religious organisations and those who would have us believe they act in its interests. What has been seen growing in Russia is no less than nightmarish, I proposed bringing these themes to the story and Brendan likes the idea”


    You're right. So it is a protest song only not about violence against the LBGT community, but about the bullshit of religion. And then that was incorporated into the video as protest towards violence against LGBT in particular. Got it. Thanx for clarifying.

    And that might have been my sense of a disconnect between the video and the music, as I wondered how history would hear/see it.

    Well, obviously a very talented guy. Perhaps he'll do one exclusively for us. This one has suddenly become a hand-me-down.
  • killercliche

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    Oct 25, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
    theantijock saidhttp://thejournalist.ie/entertainment/music-video-hozier-take-church/
    Commenting on the video’s theme and concept, Hozier has said.

    “The video references the recent increase of organised attacked and torturing of homosexuals in Russia, which is subsequent to a long, hateful and oppressive political campaign against the LGBT Community.

    The song was always about humanity at its most natural, and how that is undermined ceaselessly by religious organisations and those who would have us believe they act in its interests. What has been seen growing in Russia is no less than nightmarish, I proposed bringing these themes to the story and Brendan likes the idea”


    You're right. So it is a protest song only not about violence against the LBGT community, but about the bullshit of religion. And then that was incorporated into the video as protest towards violence against LGBT in particular. Got it. Thanx for clarifying.

    And that might have been my sense of a disconnect between the video and the music, as I wondered how history would hear/see it.

    Well, obviously a very talented guy. Perhaps he'll do one exclusively for us. This one has suddenly become a hand-me-down.



    If I were the songwriter, I would probably rewrite the song a bit to fit the video. I personally think the hookline is more powerful with the video storyline than the one most of his verses presents, but I guess I could be biased.
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    Oct 26, 2013 12:50 PM GMT
    killercliche saidIf I were the songwriter, I would probably rewrite the song a bit to fit the video. I personally think the hookline is more powerful with the video storyline than the one most of his verses presents, but I guess I could be biased.


    Sorry but not sure of your reference, the knife, perhaps? I thought also the idea of born sick calls out how religion considers us even if that was not the original meaning.

    I guess if anyone has rights to reuse their own material it would be the songwriter. I can understand him not wanting to alter his original and he does state that it was written as commentary on humanity.

    I still wear my best bud's clothes even though he's been dead now for decades. Just a few things have lasted but I love having them. So I'm okay with 2nd hand. I love when old buildings are repurposed. I think he did a great job incorporating the new video with the existing song. I think by my joking about how this song suddenly became a hand-me-down, I was just expressing that I'd like to hear, purposely intentioned, more.
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    Jul 15, 2014 1:07 PM GMT
    I know I'm late to the party but I heard this song recently in my truck and was curious about it, so dug in to read more. The singer is Irish and straight, and the song was originally more about disaffection with the abuses of the Catholic church in that country. As others stated above it appears the Russia concept for the video came later. I also didn't put things together until later.

    Unfortunately Western (aka American) evangelists have had a hand in the anti-gay frenzy in Russia just as in Uganda and Nigeria, where very similar sentiment has resulted in draconian new laws. There is a guy in Massachusetts named Scott Lively who is taking credit for this.

    I just wrote a "wake up" piece about it for my organization, talking about how young people are getting their moral guidance from artists like Hozier because the church is not providing it.

    http://walkingwithintegrity.blogspot.com/2014/07/bloody-sunday-irish-rocker-spotlights.html