Is it possible to be lean eating mainly carbs and some protein? (commas deleted)

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    Oct 01, 2013 5:55 PM GMT
    Let's say I am addicted to potato chips (crisps) and I eat a lot of pasta (which can be fattening), do any of you eat carbs and have managed to stay lean?
  • rnch

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    Oct 01, 2013 6:19 PM GMT
    Perhaps if you have the Hyper High metabolism of some teenagers still.
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    Oct 01, 2013 6:24 PM GMT
    I used to eat a lot of pasta at high school. Tuna bake, or jacket potato with cheese and baked beans. It's tasty. It's not like it's super healthy because I do cardio, but I have a belly. A belly. I know professional athletes eat lots of calories and they stay lean but that's because they are professional athletes and I have no time.

    I think HIIT will be good and I will try to limit my intake of these high fattening food. The only carbs I eat are crisps, rice, noodles, potatoes, vegetables and fruit.
  • GWriter

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    Oct 01, 2013 6:24 PM GMT
    Eat more commas. icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 01, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    There are three kinds of carbs: Sugars, starches, and veggies.

    Sugars, even the ones in fruit, contribute to body fat. The only exception might be glucose, which only occurs in honey and overly-ripe fruit. Glucose is instantly absorbed and processed, unlike other sugars which consume resources and sometimes make body fat as a bi-product.

    Starches are things like grains, breads, beans, pasta, winter squash, and root vegetables. The second two are easier to digest and do not result in as much body fat. The first four will make you more fat, unless the quantities are limited or you have a high metabolism and activity level. White potatoes are the exception, behaving more like white flour. Also, whole grain is less fattening than processed grain.

    Veggies, especially green ones, generally will not make you fat no matter how much you eat. And they are loaded with nutrients.

    Not everyone gets fat from eating sugars and starches. I have a good friend in her 40s who eats only sugars and starches and is skinny as a rail. She sits on the sofa and smoke cigarettes all day. But I would hate to think of what her internal organs look like.

    One of the trainers at my gym is vegan and built like vin diesel. Except that the trainer is 6'1" 200lbs with ripped abs. He no longer sticks to high protein, which means he is eating a mixture of protein, carbs and fats, and seems to be getting all the nutrients he needs to feed his lean mass. But I can promise you, he did not get a body like that eating potato chips and pasta.
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    Oct 01, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
    Yeah. Thanks, Nivek.

    Fruit is healthy, but too much can contribute to body fat. It has all the nutrients too.

    GWriterEat more commas.


    Lol, I did it for effect. Silly.
  • MikeW

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    Oct 01, 2013 6:32 PM GMT
    GWriter saidEat more commas. icon_cool.gif

    Seriously, can, we, have, a, thread, title, without, a, comma, between, every, fucking, word?

    And what are we supposed to be, magicians with crystal balls who know your body type, how much exercise you get, how many calories wroth of carbs you consume per day or per week?

    I'm so tired of people asking lazy fat ass questions. If you're as lazy as this question, yeah, you're probably fat and will probably not only stay fat but get fatter as you get older. Seriously, if you are not naturally low body fat and want to get fat under 15%, you HAVE to educate yourself. That means doing research on line, not asking people lazy questions where you don't even provide enough information to even hazard a GUESS at what the right answer might be. It also means you have to DO something... Like change your eating habits AND become more physically active. Just get off your butt, away from your computer, go for a walk or, better yet, a run. And, no, don't eat too many carbs. SOME, yes. But TOTALLY cut out sugar and wheat (all forms).
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    Oct 01, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
    Ok, here is my exercise regimen

    Two days a week I work whole body. Chest: benchpress 60kg 4 sets of 8, incline 40kg
    Latpull down ( everything 4 sets of 8 ) 40kg
    Squats 60kg
    Mostly and whatever else takes my fancy in the gym
    Cardio: 20 minutes everyday, cycling or rowing.

    MikeWI'm so tired of people asking lazy fat ass questions.


    Yes, I am new. Also, did you know jmusmc85 got removed for some reason because of this attitude of attacking others. So I am new. Instead of being angry all the time, have you tried to just ASK? Have you tried being helpful? If a fat bloke asked you, would you treat him this way? I weigh around 68kg.
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    Oct 01, 2013 9:28 PM GMT
    Shall I delete my commas? I like the decoration... Thoughts?
  • LJay

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    Oct 01, 2013 9:41 PM GMT
    To answer your original question. Yes. check out the residents of the Indian sub-continent.
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    Oct 01, 2013 9:51 PM GMT
    LJay saidTo answer your original question. Yes. check out the residents of the Indian sub-continent.


    But there are some muscular Indian men.
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    Oct 01, 2013 10:13 PM GMT
    Sounds like a recipe for staying "skinny fat."
  • Tca4

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    Oct 02, 2013 1:19 AM GMT
    I eat a ton of pasta after upper body workout. My favorite post-workout meal.
  • MikeW

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    Oct 02, 2013 1:31 AM GMT
    JasFriedman saidAlso, did you know jmusmc85 got removed for some reason because of this attitude of attacking others. So I am new. Instead of being angry all the time, have you tried to just ASK? Have you tried being helpful? If a fat bloke asked you, would you treat him this way? I weigh around 68kg.

    You, don't, know, what, you, are, talking, about, and, you, sure, as, hell, don't, know, anything, about, me.
  • tuffguyndc

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    Oct 02, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    yes if you are a person who does a lot of endurance base exercises and activities.
  • invisigay10

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    Oct 02, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
    Most people who get fat from "carbs" probably forget to mention that their carbs are also deep-fried..
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    JasFriedman saidAlso, did you know jmusmc85 got removed for some reason because of this attitude of attacking others. So I am new. Instead of being angry all the time, have you tried to just ASK? Have you tried being helpful? If a fat bloke asked you, would you treat him this way? I weigh around 68kg.

    You, don't, know, what, you, are, talking, about, and, you, sure, as, hell, don't, know, anything, about, me.


    So what if I don't know you. It's your tone and language of your post. It is rude and dismissive. A helpful attitude is when you don't criticize the other person.
  • MikeW

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    Oct 03, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
    JasFriedman said
    MikeW said
    JasFriedman saidAlso, did you know jmusmc85 got removed for some reason because of this attitude of attacking others. So I am new. Instead of being angry all the time, have you tried to just ASK? Have you tried being helpful? If a fat bloke asked you, would you treat him this way? I weigh around 68kg.

    You, don't, know, what, you, are, talking, about, and, you, sure, as, hell, don't, know, anything, about, me.


    So what if I don't know you. It's your tone and language of your post. It is rude and dismissive. A helpful attitude is when you don't criticize the other person.

    My tone and language were rude and dismissive because you asked a lazy ass question that anyone with a half a brain could have answered for themselves. Moreover you put a comma between every word of your topic subject, which is both stupid and annoying. Take some responsibility. You want helpful answers? Ask intelligent, thought out questions and don't do stupid shit.
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    Oct 03, 2013 8:54 PM GMT
    JasFriedman saidLet's say I am addicted to potato chips (crisps) and I eat a lot of pasta (which can be fattening), do any of you eat carbs and have managed to stay lean?


    Yes, but not those carbs. I eat leafy, fibrous vegetables and whole nuts and grains.

    Starchy and/or sugary stuff generally causes an insulin spike, which shuttles glucose (from your now-saturated bloodstream) and water into your cells and blocks fat burning. Have you burnt a lot of energy with a killer workout? The muscle cells get fed right away, converting the glucose to glycogen. No workout? Yeah, that's right--fat cells get it, where the glucose is converted to triglycerides. See, the glucose has to go somewhere or you damage your organs, get diabetes, and possibly die. It will always go somewhere.

    Your brain needs glucose. So, a no-carb diet is a recipe for death (from hypoglycemia). But have carbs that digest more slowly, and work out regularly.
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    Oct 03, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
    "My tone and language were rude and dismissive because you asked a lazy ass question that anyone with a half a brain could have answered for themselves. Moreover you put a comma between every word of your topic subject, which is both stupid and annoying. Take some responsibility. You want helpful answers? Ask intelligent, thought out questions and don't do stupid shit."

    Yes, I like being silly. I like putting commas between the words. Take some responsibility? I am not fat. I just have a belly. So what if it's stupid? Everyone does stupid things and to say you don't do stupid things is misleading either.

    THE INTERNET IS AT MY FINGERTIPS! I CAN GOOGLE. I CAN SEARCH ONLINE. Of course I can answer these questions on my own. The whole point of forums is that we discuss them, in a COMMUNITY. Also, stupidity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2013/04/17/the-benefits-of-being-stupid-at-work/

    BEING STUPID AT WORK CAN BE BENEFICIAL. Clever people are boring.

    You ask a lazy person to do a job and he will find you a quick way to do it (BILL GATES)
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    Oct 03, 2013 9:02 PM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    JasFriedman saidLet's say I am addicted to potato chips (crisps) and I eat a lot of pasta (which can be fattening), do any of you eat carbs and have managed to stay lean?


    Yes, but not those carbs. I eat leafy, fibrous vegetables and whole nuts and grains.

    Starchy and/or sugary stuff generally causes an insulin spike, which shuttles glucose (from your now-saturated bloodstream) and water into your cells and blocks fat burning. Have you burnt a lot of energy with a killer workout? The muscle cells get fed right away, converting the glucose to glycogen. No workout? Yeah, that's right--fat cells get it, where the glucose is converted to triglycerides. See, the glucose has to go somewhere or you damage your organs, get diabetes, and possibly die. It will always go somewhere.

    Your brain needs glucose. So, a no-carb diet is a recipe for death (from hypoglycemia). But have carbs that digest more slowly, and work out regularly.


    Thanks, mickeytopogigio.

    Yes, I have increased my cardio by 10minutes a day, so now I am doing 30mins of cardio.
  • MikeW

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    Oct 03, 2013 9:12 PM GMT
    JasFriedman saidAlso, stupidity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    BEING STUPID AT WORK CAN BE BENEFICIAL.

    uh huh icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 03, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    MikeW said
    JasFriedman saidAlso, stupidity isn't necessarily a bad thing.

    BEING STUPID AT WORK CAN BE BENEFICIAL.

    uh huh icon_rolleyes.gif


    Oh yeah, have you read the link attached? CNN money? Being stupid can be good?
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    Oct 03, 2013 9:18 PM GMT
    Here it is, //Asking "dumb" questions "draws out more information that the opposing party may not have shared otherwise," says project manager turned travel entrepreneur Jeni James. "There is also basic psychology around people being uncomfortable with silence and therefore, if you just remain quiet, appearing 'slow,' the opposing party will become uncomfortable, trying to fill the silence and talk, revealing details they maybe shouldn't."//
  • MikeW

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    Oct 03, 2013 9:24 PM GMT
    But one can't in good conscience recommend public failure as a career-builder. After all, there is a major difference between actually being slower on the uptake and acting as if you are a few cards short of a deck. The trick is not to play dumb, exactly, but rather to learn when to assert your superior intelligence and when to hide your light under a bushel. (And mix metaphors.)

    You can squirm and weasel all you want JF but the fact is all you are doing is justifying your own laziness and criticizing me for not being patient with it.