Hispanic/Latino Terms

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    Oct 02, 2013 7:07 AM GMT
    I've notice on threads that people refer to Mexicans as Hispanic and Latinos. While those are the labels some go by, I feel those aren't proper terms. Latino, short for Latin America refers people by region rather than race. Hispanic simply means relating to Spain. Just being there in Mexico can classify you as Latino or if you're a nation once conquered by Spaniard, that means your Hispanic. I don't like those terms because virtually anybody can be pin anyone these labels.

    What the real racial terms is Mestizo. It means a person of racial ancestry with Amerindian and European. Nobody uses that word but that really is the proper term.

    D.N.A tests says that the average Mexican-American is predominate Europe ancestry. The numbers are 60% Caucasian and 40%. Of course, that's just the average. You can probably find people with different admixtures then that.

    Hispanic and Latinos aren't proper terms. Mestizo is the correct obscure term that nobody uses. The D.N.A test shows my people's admixture. I hope I cleared things up on ethnic terms.
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    Oct 02, 2013 7:19 AM GMT
    Mestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.
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    Oct 02, 2013 7:29 AM GMT
    juvenescences saidMestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.


    But Latino just means you're from Latin American. Asians and blacks can be classified as Latino if they were born there.
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    Oct 02, 2013 7:30 AM GMT
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    juvenescences saidMestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.


    But Latino just means you're from Latin American. Asians and blacks can be classified as Latino if they were born there.

    And the problem with that is...?
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    Oct 02, 2013 7:33 AM GMT
    juvenescences said
    The_Tango said
    juvenescences saidMestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.


    But Latino just means you're from Latin American. Asians and blacks can be classified as Latino if they were born there.

    And the problem with that is...?


    Virtually anyone can be pinned by that term.
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    Oct 02, 2013 7:44 AM GMT
    The_Tango said
    juvenescences said
    The_Tango said
    juvenescences saidMestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.


    But Latino just means you're from Latin American. Asians and blacks can be classified as Latino if they were born there.

    And the problem with that is...?


    Virtually anyone can be pinned by that term.

    And virtually anyone can be called American, Canadian, Swedish, Russian, Indian...doesn't mean there isn't a stereotypical prototype for each of those labels. Not a big deal.
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    Oct 02, 2013 8:04 AM GMT
    juvenescences said
    The_Tango said
    juvenescences said
    The_Tango said
    juvenescences saidMestizo had a negative connotation to it as a result of colonial history. By pure definition it's the correct term for anyone who is a descendent of Hernán Cortés and La Malinche, but mestizo had a history of being used to describe animals that had violated natural order and so when applied to people it carried the same implication right from the start.

    While mestizo no longer always has the same negative connotation it once did, it's hard to reverse history. All of my Spanish professors, who hail from 7 different Spanish-speaking countries, refer to people from México and any Latin American country as latinos. One of them specializes in Spanish linguistics and once worked as a translator for Fidel Castro in Cuba. I'm gonna trust her on this one.


    But Latino just means you're from Latin American. Asians and blacks can be classified as Latino if they were born there.

    And the problem with that is...?


    Virtually anyone can be pinned by that term.

    And virtually anyone can be called American, Canadian, Swedish, Russian, Indian...doesn't mean there isn't a stereotypical prototype for each of those labels. Not a big deal.


    Racial terms exist in those countries. My point is that I don't have a proper racial term used and the Hispanic/Latino aren't suited well
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    Oct 02, 2013 8:27 AM GMT
    Wrong. "latino" means someone from Latin America, and "mestizo" is a race (dark skin, native descents, the average Mexican or Peruvian), but there are countries in Latin America like Uruguay and Argentina with a minimal percentage of mestizos. So mestizo is not the same as latin american.
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    Oct 02, 2013 8:42 AM GMT
    David3000 saidWrong. "latino" means someone from Latin America, and "mestizo" is a race (dark skin, native descents, the aversge Mexican or Peruvian), but there are countries in Latin America like Uruguay and Argentina with a minimal percentage of mestizos. So mestizo is not the same as latin american.



    Latino means you're from Latin America as I already said. Mestizo doesn't mean dark skin, it means Amerindian and European mixture. Please read what I wrote carefully.

    Actually. Uruguay isn't a white country. I mean, they're predominate white in their admixture but their government classified them as white anyways. D.N.A test says they're 82% European, 8% Amerindian, and 10% African. The same can be debuked for other Latin American countries. The governments in Latin America likes to classify people who look white as white in their census. Don't believe in what they say without D.N.A test.

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.20520/abstract
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajhb.20025/abstract
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    Oct 02, 2013 8:48 AM GMT
    Dude i live there so I know, or ask anyone whos travelled here. Or just check Wikipedia (4% mulato, 1% amerindian). It would be ridiculous to clasify this country as mestizo. Your theory about calling every latin country mestizo is wrong.
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    Oct 02, 2013 8:54 AM GMT
    David3000 saidDude i live there so I know what Im talking about, or ask anyone whos come here. Or just check Wikipedia (4% mulato, 1% amerindian). It would be ridiculous to clasify this country as mestizo. So your dialect theory is wrong.


    I did check wikipedia before but that doesn't mean anything. The government classifies people who look white as white and the D.N.A test did says they're mixed-race.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:06 AM GMT
    Dude you never been here and have no idea how the goverment classifies things. Do some research about Uruguay history first before talking ignorant shots just to try to make your point.

    Mestizo = indian/European mix. How can you say we're mestizo when there are or were no indians here?

    There was an absolute GENOCIDE of the natives who lived here (Charruas) by our ironically national hero Rivera who exterminated them all. Century later because of the war Uruguay recieved a massive immigration of italians and spaniards and in less quantity german, polish,etc; that's why there is only 5% of mestizo here, and little mix. Actually Im a singular case myself because I have Arab blood in me which is very uncommon here.

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uruguayan_people
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:16 AM GMT
    David3000 saidDude you never been here and have no idea how the goverment classifies nothing. Do some research about Uruguay history first before talking ignorant shots just to try to make your point.
    There was an absolute genocide of the natives who lived here (Charruas) by our ironically national hero Rivera who exterminated ALL of them. Century later because of the war the small country was populated by italians and spaniards and some german and polish, that is why there is only 5% of mulatos here, because of the genocide and huge european inmigration.


    That's the same augurement I heard from Argentinians. How do you disprove D.N.A test? Obviously, there's some mixture inside of them in Uruguay people.Jeez, it's like you're so disbelief and ashamed of the truth.

    Contrary to belief, Argentina isn't a 97% White country. Studies say that they're D.N.A is 78% European, 19% Amerindian and African contribution was 2.5%.http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajpa.20534/abstract


    http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2009/02/28/the-racial-makeup-of-hispanics/

    For anyone who's curious on Latin American admixture, visit the link.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:25 AM GMT
    Man, whats your problem? You hold a grudge against Uruguay and Argentina which is a cliche (all against us). Not everyone has to be like you, Latin America is a huge continent with lots of different cultures inside. What you say in your OP is just wrong. Get over it and dont hate.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:32 AM GMT
    David3000 saidMan, whats your problem? It looks as you gold a grudge against Uruguay and Argentina and that's a cliche (all against us). Not everyone has to be like you, Latin America is a huge continent with lots of different cultures inside. What you say in your OP is just wrong. Get over it and dont hate.


    "Man, whats your problem? It looks as you gold a grudge against Uruguay and Argentina."

    No I don't. All I have is presented facts and you proved nothing. You never did disprove me and you're directing your post at me personally.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:34 AM GMT
    So official stats + historical facts + me living there + asking anyone whos come here...all that according to you is nothing? icon_lol.gif I dont know why this makes you so mad or why is fine for Mexicans to aknowledge their roots but according to you is wrong for us to aknowledge ours. Our spanish is also different did you know that? We use 'vos' instead of 'tu', use the 'sh' instead of the 'y' and change the way verbs end icon_lol.gif get over it.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:43 AM GMT
    David3000 saidSo official stats + historical facts + me living there + asking anyone whos came here...all that according to you is nothing? icon_lol.gif I dont know why this makes you so mad or why is fine for Mexicans to aknowledge your roots but according to you is wrong for us to do it. Our spanish is also different did you know that? We use 'vos' instead of 'tu', use the 'sh' instead of the 'y' and change the way verbs end icon_lol.gif get over it.


    My sources disprove everything you said and you keep denying it. And no, I'm not mad. You're very funny.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:48 AM GMT
    You have some issues regarding this topic, Ill leave you to it.
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    Oct 02, 2013 9:51 AM GMT
    David3000 saidYou have some issues regarding this topic, Ill leave you to it.


    Haha, You should say that to yourself.
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    Oct 02, 2013 11:16 AM GMT
    dude, at the end is the same thing. look for the precise definition of the word, Latin america means america derived from latin, this means that languajes like portuguese, french and spanish are included here because they come from latin. Hispanoamerican is for the countries who specifically were in spanish speaking domain. So dont burn yourself out! As anglo-saxon is for people who speaks and comes from old english, (USA, CANADA) LATINO AMERICAN( BRAZIL, CANADA(french even if they dont want to believe it) and the rest of spanish speaking countries. HISPANOAMERICANS ( are those ones who were conquered from spainards or criollos(spainards born here). Any way, Mestizo cualifies the same as saying niggger, because if even dont see it that way, both were used by the opressors as a way to classify us and as way of lower down human conditions. They were pretty racist so they used that terms so pure bloods were apart from them, Stupid, dont you think?

    as long as I can see you call yourself Latino, if you llike it, fine, if you want to be called mestizo, do it, even american, because the terms englobes all the american continent, do what you want dude. No matter how many times you are labeled, be yourself.
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    Oct 02, 2013 3:50 PM GMT
    Latinoamericano is my term of choice. We come from varied ethnic backgrounds, I feel like this term is a healthy umbrella for our entire region. 'Mestizo' is a derogatory term. No further comments.
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    Oct 02, 2013 4:09 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidThey definitely are not Asians! I would say that the expressions of DNA reveal the facial characteristics. Whereas David3000 has features of a European descended Latin American, am not sure about The_Tango which looks more like he has a bit of Aztecan features and lacks European features.


    Yes there's Asians.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Latin_American

    I'm actually predominate European ancestry. I had pale skin and light hair as a very young kid. You don't have any experience as classifying people. Don't sprouts things you don't know about.
    http://postimg.org/image/49acbq5gx/
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    Oct 02, 2013 4:13 PM GMT
    silverwolf94 saiddude, at the end is the same thing. look for the precise definition of the word, Latin america means america derived from latin, this means that languajes like portuguese, french and spanish are included here because they come from latin. Hispanoamerican is for the countries who specifically were in spanish speaking domain. So dont burn yourself out! As anglo-saxon is for people who speaks and comes from old english, (USA, CANADA) LATINO AMERICAN( BRAZIL, CANADA(french even if they dont want to believe it) and the rest of spanish speaking countries. HISPANOAMERICANS ( are those ones who were conquered from spainards or criollos(spainards born here). Any way, Mestizo cualifies the same as saying niggger, because if even dont see it that way, both were used by the opressors as a way to classify us and as way of lower down human conditions. They were pretty racist so they used that terms so pure bloods were apart from them, Stupid, dont you think?

    as long as I can see you call yourself Latino, if you llike it,
    fine, if you want to be called mestizo, do it, even american, because the terms englobes all the american continent, do what you want dude. No matter how many times you are labeled, be yourself.


    I just call myself Latino anyways because It's convenient anyways.
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    Oct 02, 2013 4:14 PM GMT
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    woodsmen saidThey definitely are not Asians! I would say that the expressions of DNA reveal the facial characteristics. Whereas David3000 has features of a European descended Latin American, am not sure about The_Tango which looks more like he has a bit of Aztecan features and lacks European features.


    Yes there's Asians.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Latin_American

    I'm actually predominate European ancestry. I had pale skin and light hair as a very young kid. You don't have any experience as classifying people. Don't sprouts things you don't know about.
    http://postimg.org/image/49acbq5gx/


    For one, I doubt that you are predominately European, even if you are, what's your point? Latinoamerica is probably the largest melting pot in the world. Let's celebrate our diversity. I swear "racial" issues are so deeply embedded in our culture that I am sometimes bewildered by people's obsessions. I am glad that I know who I am and where I come from - Mexico - no further investigation needed!
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    Oct 02, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    CityofDreams said
    The_Tango said
    woodsmen saidThey definitely are not Asians! I would say that the expressions of DNA reveal the facial characteristics. Whereas David3000 has features of a European descended Latin American, am not sure about The_Tango which looks more like he has a bit of Aztecan features and lacks European features.


    Yes there's Asians.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Latin_American

    I'm actually predominate European ancestry. I had pale skin and light hair as a very young kid. You don't have any experience as classifying people. Don't sprouts things you don't know about.
    http://postimg.org/image/49acbq5gx/


    For one, I doubt that you are predominately European, even if you are, what's your point? Latinoamerica is probably the largest melting pot in the world. Let's celebrate our diversity. I swear "racial" issues are so deeply embedded in our culture that I am sometimes bewildered by people's obsessions. I am glad that I know who I am and where I come from - Mexico - no further investigation needed!


    My admixture is probably around 60% European and 40% Native. That's predominate for me at the least. Your implying racial issues, not me. I don't know why you're sproutings nonsense.