British media: Don’t fall prey to ‘both sides-ism’: Republicans are to blame for government shutdown (American polls agree)

  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 03, 2013 12:29 PM GMT
    Don’t fall prey to ‘both sides-ism’: Republicans are to blame for government shutdown

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/09/30/dont-fall-prey-to-both-sides-ism-republicans-are-to-blame-for-government-shutdown/There is a frustrating tendency in American political reporting to adopt a position of “both sides-ism” – as in, “both sides” are equally to blame for the nation’s chronic political dysfunction. Sometimes, it must be said, this assessment is correct. After all, the US political system was practically designed to breed legislative gridlock.

    Not this time, however.

    There is one party that is solely to blame for the first government shutdown in 17 years. And it’s the Republican party.

    Indeed, the debate happening in Washington right now is not even between Democrats and Republicans. It’s not even about the deficit, or the budget, or government spending priorities. Rather, it is one strictly occurring between Republicans who are trying to find some magic bullet to destroy “Obamacare” – the country’s fiscal health be damned.


    Poll: Americans not happy about shutdown; more blame GOP

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57605822/poll-americans-not-happy-about-shutdown-more-blame-gop/Republicans in Congress receive more of the blame for the shutdown: 44 percent of Americans blame them, while 35 percent put more blame on President Obama and the Democrats in Congress. These views are virtually the same as they were last week before the shutdown, when Americans were asked who they would blame if a shutdown occurr
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    Oct 03, 2013 2:13 PM GMT
    If Obama didn't fuck up his own law (ACA) so much, he wouldn't have this problem, it's his own fault.
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    Oct 03, 2013 2:21 PM GMT
    Yes, the "both sides" are to blame meme is complete crap. The same people using it were singing a different tune under Bush, and anyone who opposed the war or tax cuts was unpatriotic and told to get out of the country if they didn't like it. If Obama hadn't given Republicans some leeway on taxes and sequestration, there might be water to a both sides argument.

    The GOP did this to Clinton, so it's a pattern of poor discourse and people get that. Clinton and Obama are two people they couldn't beat and it burns them up.
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:17 PM GMT
    somersault saidIf Obama didn't fuck up his own law (ACA) so much, he wouldn't have this problem, it's his own fault.


    The shutdown has nothing to do with the ACA. Nice try though, but as the polls show Americans are no longer interested in these tired Fox News/Rush Limbaugh talking points.

    John Boehner needs to let the funding bill sitting in the House come to the House floor for a clean vote. His refusal to do so is the fault of radical, right-wing conservative extremists and nobody else.

    Why are Republicans so scared to call a vote on the funding bill?
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    ^^

    Obama fucked up his own law by changing it 17 times granting exemptions for his friends like the unions and federal workers. He hasn't had a budget in years.

    Doctors are retiring by the hundreds because they don't want to deal with this crap (yeah, my dad is a pediatrician and my sister is a nurse). It's a bad law.

    I'm not a republican, but they are finally doing what their constituents say they want, it's their perogative.

    The federal government is an unaffordable bloated mess anyway and most of it is working now
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    somersault get verified!

    I wanna know if us reaaaaaaaaalll
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:32 PM GMT
    blkapollo saidYes, the "both sides" are to blame meme is complete crap. The same people using it were singing a different tune under Bush, and anyone who opposed the war or tax cuts was unpatriotic and told to get out of the country if they didn't like it. If Obama hadn't given Republicans some leeway on taxes and sequestration, there might be water to a both sides argument.

    The GOP did this to Clinton, so it's a pattern of poor discourse and people get that. Clinton and Obama are two people they couldn't beat and it burns them up.

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    Oct 03, 2013 3:36 PM GMT
    Why do you TroyAthlete continue posting topics that clearly belong in the "News and Politics" folder in the "All Things Gay" folder?

    There's a reason the "News and Politics" forum exists: This kind of crap doesn't belong in the "All Things Gay" forum.

    I can only conclude that you are so desperate for attention as the reason you continue to post these political topics bashing Republicans in this forum.

    If you keep it up, I will reciprocate and begin posting political topics in this folder as well.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 03, 2013 3:43 PM GMT
    somersault said^^

    Obama fucked up his own law by changing it 17 times granting exemptions for his friends like the unions and federal workers. He hasn't had a budget in years.

    Doctors are retiring by the hundreds because they don't want to deal with this crap (yeah, my dad is a pediatrician and my sister is a nurse). It's a bad law.

    I'm not a republican, but they are finally doing what their constituents say they want, it's their perogative.

    The federal government is an unaffordable bloated mess anyway and most of it is working now


    First of all, you don't have your facts straight because unions are now upset that they weren't exempted from ACA compliance. But this is what happens when you listen to right-wing talking points.

    Moreover, Obama granting extensions for some companies to comply with the ACA has nothing whatsoever with Boehner's refusal to call a vote on the funding bill sitting there in the House. You can complain about Obamacare all you want: it has stood through 40+ different Congressional votes, and it has worked its way through the courts where it was upheld. Your and the radical right's refusal to accept this reality does not give John Boehner the right to destroy the economy.

    In fact, Republicas are not doing what their constituents want, since a majority of Americans do not believe the government should be defunded over a GOP temper tantrum over Obamacare. Boehner knows it: that's why he won't bring the funding bill to a vote. It would pass with bipartisan approval.

    There are 800,000 workers currently not getting paychecks, which threatens economies all over. That is not a working government except in the mind of a completely selfish person.
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    Oct 03, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    franktats saidWhy do you TroyAthlete continue posting topics that clearly belong in the "News and Politics" folder in the "All Things Gay" folder?

    There's a reason the "News and Politics" forum exists: This kind of crap doesn't belong in the "All Things Gay" forum.

    I can only conclude that you are so desperate for attention as the reason you continue to post these political topics bashing Republicans in this forum.

    If you keep it up, I will reciprocate and begin posting political topics in this folder as well.


    Ooooooooh, I'm soooooo concerned about where a fake, phony, right-wing troll posts.

    Post wherever you want. I really don't care: I'm not going to whine and cry about it like you do, because I am not a desperate crybaby like you are.

    I already explained to you that Admin moved my posts. Your refusal to accept that is your problem: you can't even be honest about who you are. You are a desperate, phony, liar. I don't care where you post, or what you think about where I post. *shrug*