Washington Post: Republicans are losing the shutdown blame game

  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 04, 2013 10:23 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/04/republicans-are-losing-the-shutdown-blame-game/Americans are blaming congressional Republicans more than President Obama for causing Tuesday’s federal government shutdown, according to the first polls conducted since Washington came to a halt at midnight Monday.
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    Oct 04, 2013 10:24 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/04/republicans-are-losing-the-shutdown-blame-game/Americans are blaming congressional Republicans more than President Obama for causing Tuesday’s federal government shutdown, according to the first polls conducted since Washington came to a halt at midnight Monday.


    My God - and from The Washington Post of all places!

    Well at least you didn't post this in the "All Things Gay" forum. Now THAT would really annoy me! icon_twisted.gif
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 04, 2013 10:25 PM GMT
    franktats said
    TroyAthlete said
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/04/republicans-are-losing-the-shutdown-blame-game/Americans are blaming congressional Republicans more than President Obama for causing Tuesday’s federal government shutdown, according to the first polls conducted since Washington came to a halt at midnight Monday.


    My God - and from The Washington Post of all places!

    Well at least you didn't post this in the "All Things Gay" forum. Now THAT would really annoy me! icon_twisted.gif


    1. Nobody cares what annoys you and what doesn't, although thank you for asking Admin to stop moving my posts.
    2. The Washington Post is far more reputable than the right-wing rags you cull lies from -- The Washington Examiner? The Weekly Standard? Bahahaha.
    3. Just like their "skewed poll" nonsense -- Republicans have failed again to trick the public.
  • PIccadilly

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    Oct 05, 2013 5:18 PM GMT
    There's also a Fox News poll that puts the blame on republicans (for those that believe this is a better source):

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/10/03/fox-news-poll-voters-support-delaying-obamacare-but-oppose-defunding-it/

    Obviously, the headline makes no mention of it, but that is what they found.

    Actually, I just realized, that Washington Post article is based on the same Fox News poll.
  • rnch

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    Oct 05, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    franktats said
    TroyAthlete said
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/04/republicans-are-losing-the-shutdown-blame-game/Americans are blaming congressional Republicans more than President Obama for causing Tuesday’s federal government shutdown, according to the first polls conducted since Washington came to a halt at midnight Monday.


    My God - and from The Washington Post of all places!

    Well at least you didn't post this in the "All Things Gay" forum. Now THAT would really annoy me! icon_twisted.gif


    1. Nobody cares what annoys you and what doesn't, although thank you for asking Admin to stop moving my posts.
    2. The Washington Post is far more reputable than the right-wing rags you cull lies from -- The Washington Examiner? The Weekly Standard? Bahahaha.
    3. Just like their "skewed poll" nonsense -- Republicans have failed again to trick the public.





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    Oct 05, 2013 5:28 PM GMT
    US shutdown: Parties not yet ready to blink
    All the signs are that neither side is preparing to blink, quite yet. But while the president is staring hard and straight ahead, the Republicans' eyes are beginning to water, and they are glancing at the ground.

    Obama has a strategy. The Republicans have a problem.

    They are backing down, albeit very slowly. First they wanted to stop Obamacare. Then delay it. Then delay part of it. That is still their position but they have tried to open a few bits of government, like national parks.

    Of course they are doing this so they look like reasonable people, seeking compromise. But it is a terrible tactic.

    Most people aren't that interested in politics and don't pay attention to the details. What the Republicans see as clever just looks messy. The shifting Republican message won't get through, except to their hardline base.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24369213
  • musclmed

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    Oct 05, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
    It is completely true the Republicans are shutting down the government.

    If they were just funding the ACA then they would be democrats I presume.

    I predict this will go on for a few more days then Democrats will be wondering why didn't they just take this lifeline and at least make it seem like they were trying to fix the problems.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 05, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    As far as I am concerned, both democrats and republicans are equally to blame for the federal shutdown and our country's serious problems in general. Neither political party gives a good goddamn for the American people and they are just out for their own self aggrandizement. It is time to throw both parties out of office and elect a whole different slate of alternative candidates for a change. The democratic-republican duopoly on American politics must come to an end.
  • rnch

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    Oct 05, 2013 6:16 PM GMT
    IDK how people who are not brainwashed by Fox Feaux News could think that anyone other than the GOP/TEAbagger extreme comservatives are responsible/to blame for this latest political stupidity-in-action.

    The GOP is trying to hold the whole coutry hostage because a law has been passed that the GOP's wealthy contributors despise.

    It's just as simple as that.
  • musclmed

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    Oct 05, 2013 6:22 PM GMT
    rnch saidIDK how people who are not brainwashed by Fox Feaux News could think that anyone other than the GOP/TEAbagger extreme comservatives are responsible/to blame for this latest political stupidity-in-action.

    The GOP is trying to hold the whole coutry hostage because a law has been passed that the GOP's wealthy contributors despise.

    It's just as simple as that.


    If the democrats had the votes to pass the ACA in regular order this could not have happened. They used budget proceedings so they have nothing to complain about.

    The ACA is one reason that the Senate has not tried to pass a budget in years.
  • rnch

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    Oct 05, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    musclmed said
    rnch saidIDK how people who are not brainwashed by Fox Feaux News could think that anyone other than the GOP/TEAbagger extreme comservatives are responsible/to blame for this latest political stupidity-in-action.

    The GOP is trying to hold the whole coutry hostage because a law has been passed that the GOP's wealthy contributors despise.

    It's just as simple as that.


    If the democrats had the votes to pass the ACA in regular order this could not have happened. They used budget proceedings so they have nothing to complain about.




    Bullshit.

    The law was passed by Congress.

    The Supreme Court has withheld it.

    ACA is "The Law Of The Land".

    The GOP/TEAbaggers are wasting their time, hurting our country....and destroying what was left of the Republican party.
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    Oct 05, 2013 6:29 PM GMT
    rnch said
    musclmed said
    rnch saidIDK how people who are not brainwashed by Fox Feaux News could think that anyone other than the GOP/TEAbagger extreme comservatives are responsible/to blame for this latest political stupidity-in-action.

    The GOP is trying to hold the whole coutry hostage because a law has been passed that the GOP's wealthy contributors despise.

    It's just as simple as that.


    If the democrats had the votes to pass the ACA in regular order this could not have happened. They used budget proceedings so they have nothing to complain about.




    Bullshit.

    The law was passed by Congress.

    The Supreme Court has withheld it.

    ACA is "The Law Of The Land".

    The GOP/TEAbaggers are wasting their time, hurting our country....and destroying what was left of the Republican party.



    This has got to be the dumbest thing I've seen you post.

    You totally didn't understand the point about regular order and to bolster your point you write "The Supreme Court has withheld it!"

    I think you should just stick to posting icon_lol.gificon_smile.gificon_biggrin.gif icons like you normally do.
  • musclmed

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    Oct 05, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    rnch said
    musclmed said
    rnch saidIDK how people who are not brainwashed by Fox Feaux News could think that anyone other than the GOP/TEAbagger extreme comservatives are responsible/to blame for this latest political stupidity-in-action.

    The GOP is trying to hold the whole coutry hostage because a law has been passed that the GOP's wealthy contributors despise.

    It's just as simple as that.


    If the democrats had the votes to pass the ACA in regular order this could not have happened. They used budget proceedings so they have nothing to complain about.




    Bullshit.

    The law was passed by Congress. YES but the parts that like employer mandate , Medicaid etc were passed using budget reconciliation.

    The Supreme Court has withheld it. The Supreme court upheld the constitutionality yes but it was TAGGED as a tax measure. Effectively preventing Obama and the democrats from playing the game, its a tax, no its a law , no its a tax. yada yada

    ACA is "The Law Of The Land". So was the Immigration act of 1986, it also was summarily defunded and effectively amended by the Democrats in 4 separate years. They blocked appropriations to enforce the act.

    The GOP/TEAbaggers are wasting their time, hurting our country....and destroying what was left of the Republican party.- I agree they are wasting time, because the law is a toxic fail, but maybe they wanted it burned into memory the democrats are really sure about it.
  • rnch

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    Oct 05, 2013 6:58 PM GMT
    Ah yes, I do see the sock puppet and the Conservsaposse's point.

    In my haste to reply I used "withheld" instead of the word I meant to use, "upheld".

    "Multitasking" at work does have it's drawbacks; my attentions were diverted.

    Only a pithy, juvenile, petty, small minded person(s), grasping for ...anything...to divert attention from the truths that I mentioned (and to poke rude fun), would even mention this.

    Clearly anyone with "half a brain" understand my intentions and what I meant.

    But....consider who jumped on my typo......


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    Oct 05, 2013 7:05 PM GMT
    rnch saidAh yes, I do see the sock puppet and the Conservsaposse's point.

    In my haste to reply I used "withheld" instead of the word I meant to use, "upheld".

    "Multitasking" at work does have it's drawbacks; my attentions were diverted.

    Only a pithy, juvenile, petty, small minded person(s), grasping for ...anything...to divert attention from the truths that I mentioned (and to poke rude fun), would even mention this.

    Clearly anyone with "half a brain" understand my intentions and what I meant.

    But....consider who jumped on my typo......


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    OK, so what do you have to say about the point about regular order?
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 05, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidAs far as I am concerned, both democrats and republicans are equally to blame for the federal shutdown and our country's serious problems in general. Neither political party gives a good goddamn for the American people and they are just out for their own self aggrandizement. It is time to throw both parties out of office and elect a whole different slate of alternative candidates for a change. The democratic-republican duopoly on American politics must come to an end.


    Yes, and then after that let's buy everybody in China a teddy bear.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 05, 2013 10:21 PM GMT
    musclmed saidI predict this will go on for a few more days then Democrats will be wondering why didn't they just take this lifeline and at least make it seem like they were trying to fix the problems.


    Republicans also predicted the polls were "skewed" and Romney would win the election.

    Once the Republicans inevitably lose this shutdown fight -- since neither the public nor the policy is not on their side -- we'll be sure to revist this prediction to show again how out of touch with reality conservatives are.