Gays are brainwashed into expecting to become HIV+

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    Oct 05, 2013 2:40 PM GMT
    I'm really pissed off how, with each gay site I go to, I have to tick a box in which I have to state whether or not I am HIV-/+.

    It's like gay fascism. Opponents of Obamacare would loathe the idea of having their personal health record digitised when not even the fucking Pentagon can keep their precious secrets safe. So why the hell this brainwashing?

    I totally get it that there is/was an HIV/AIDS pandemic and especially so amongst the gay community. But being gay has become SO INESCAPABLY SYNONYMOUS with INEVITABLY getting HIV/AIDS unless you take certain precautions and if you don't, you're part of the problem.

    It's like breast cancer. The more you focus on it, the greater a truth it becomes. Like telling yourself over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again and so begin to believe it and to fear it and to expect it and then it becomes real. They just don't spot the chicken for the egg.

    People are so BLISSFULLY unaware of the reality they entreat themselves to. It's like watching a fucking Woody Allen film and believing that men can't keep their dicks in their pants (and that's not a bad thing ;-) hehe!

    But honestly, do I ALWAYS have to have this HIV/AIDS message forcefed down my throat like a turkey whenever I log out of gay sites?

    Yes, go ahead. Piss in your panties. I know you lost friends. As if everyone else on earth doesn't. But for god's sake (and God if you're that way inclinced), stop making being gay or loving men or wanting to and having sex with men or multiple partners so pre-ordainly predictable with an outcome of suffering, humiliation and punishment.

    And I am not a proponent of "spreading any dis-ease" by advocating, necessarily, unsafe or reckless sex. I am talking about the sheer brainwashing that makes it inescapable for someone to be gay without have to FEAR contracting a disease.

    I know I am not alone in this, despite what others believe they must believe because they believe it is good. For god's sake. Where's the PRIDE in that?
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    Oct 05, 2013 2:50 PM GMT
    smallbutperfectlyformed saidhate to say this BUT with the way some guys are living, how they don't end up catching some vd is a huge wtf. even if they don't have it, i wouldn't want to be kicking it with them because it shows one's mindset towards others and self. i would find it hard to take a guy seriously who wants to find a serious boyfriend and on his downtime when he's not involved with anybody, he's busy fucking, tallying his body count. don't understand what's so cool about living a risky sexual lifestyle where dudes do some reckless shit like that then when they catch something, they want sympathy and pity. they weren't thinking about that shit when they were doing what they do.

    i don't even think it has to do with morals. it's more of a reflection on how you view others and yourself. are you a sex object, do you view other people as sex objects? i understand that the number of sexual partners you have DOESN'T have anything to do with picking up a disease BUT either way, it's still disgusting.


    So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around, because gay men spread aids. What happens when you log out of Realjock? You end up on a page that reminds you you cannot trust yourself not to get HIV+/AIDS. Why? Awareness? Oh please. How about raising awareness of what you want rather than raising awareness of what you do not want. How about that? Or wil you be the dumb voter that goes to thepolls to vote for thepolitician you do NOT want to get into office. Should I laugh or cry?
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    Oct 05, 2013 2:53 PM GMT
    "So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around? "

    yeah, pretty much, deal with it
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    Oct 05, 2013 2:55 PM GMT
    somersault said"So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around? "

    yeah, pretty much, deal with it


    you're so uninteresting. If only your brains were as big as your blue eyes. But hey, you're from Alabama or Mississippi or something. So no getting lucky there.
  • PR_GMR

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    Oct 05, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    I hear you, newacro. It's a fascism now deeply ingrained in the community. You can't be a 'normal' fag unless you're wearing a condom %100 of the time.. and if you don't wear a condomr %100 you must have a death wish. You'll see that around here all the time.

    I got tired of that shit. It's my body.. and I'll do as I please with it. I will enjoy bareback sex with select partners if I want to.. and don't give a crap what anyone thinks of me.
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    Oct 05, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    newacro said
    somersault said"So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around? "

    yeah, pretty much, deal with it


    you're so uninteresting. If only your brains were as big as your blue eyes. But hey, you're from Alabama or Mississippi or something. So no getting lucky there.


    Don't pay attention to him. This fag is a conservative Republican. Seriously, what a fucked up one.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:08 PM GMT
    smallbutperfectlyformed said


    where in that did i single out gay men? i didn't. it goes for everybody. straight, gay, man, woman, whoever. folks stay acting as if someone's going to take them in for who they are on some superman shit. i just find it laughable how folks is on some selfish shit for real. no regard for anybody but themselves. they fuck whenever it's convenient and date whenever it's convenient to them. as if the people that they're using for THEMSELVES is supposed to cater to them and shit.. please.


    I get what you say, but I'm saying that gay identity has been turned into a brainwashed ID in which being gay is synonymous with being at risk of getting hiv/aids. And yes there were valid reasons for that happening. And it WAS necessary at the time. And yes, self-respect has everything to do with it. But you yourself do not even think of being gay without the likelihood of getting vd.

    And you get what you focus on. So why not begin to focus on the being gay as a respectable choice that does not include the risk of inevitably contracting a disease, which is not to say you won't, but it is about creating a different mind-set and expectations.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:11 PM GMT
    it is mainly anyone who bottoms who is at high risk of getting HIV ... most gay men, though they claim to be total tops are versatile ... also some gay men, you very well know, are very promiscuous, increasing their risk for getting HIV and passing it on to others ... the gift that keeps on giving ... straights guys don't have it quite as easy to find sex from a woman ... women more often want to date, be wooed and fall in love before having sex ... guys don't go through all that process, that's why you'll find straight guys getting blow jobs from gay men in the parking lots of strip bars and at book store ... they just want to get off and go. People with HIV may not get checked because they are healthy, in some cases it can take 10 to 15 years before a person realizes they are infected. Most infectious diseases have some sort of outward sign that indicates a person has been infected. Not so with HIV, so a person can unknowingly pass it on to others. Unless they come up with a cure, then we have to keep reminding each other because it is a life altering disease and it is 100% preventable.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:12 PM GMT
    smallbutperfectlyformed said
    PR_GMR said
    newacro said
    somersault said"So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around? "

    yeah, pretty much, deal with it


    you're so uninteresting. If only your brains were as big as your blue eyes. But hey, you're from Alabama or Mississippi or something. So no getting lucky there.


    Don't pay attention to him. This fag is a conservative Republican. Seriously, what a fucked up one.


    the jokes on you. icon_lol.gif
    somersault is very intelligent and cool as fuck.

    and you don't need to say the f-word, man. it's unwarranted.


    I call anyone a fag who deserves the name. Any homosexual who defends the Republican party after the government shutdown they just caused.. and the same party who will take away gay rights, doesn't want gays to marry, and who would put gays against the wall if they could.. is a stupid fag.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:14 PM GMT
    And Somersault.. don't send me PMs. I don't want any type of conversation with you. I don't give a fuck where you were born. Do. Not. Care.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:16 PM GMT
    ReluctantPromises said
    PR_GMR saidI hear you, newacro. It's a fascism now deeply ingrained in the community. You can't be a 'normal' fag unless you're wearing a condom %100 of the time.. and if you don't wear a condomr %100 you must have a death wish. You'll see that around here all the time.

    I got tired of that shit. It's my body.. and I'll do as I please with it. I will enjoy bareback sex with select partners if I want to.. and don't give a crap what anyone thinks of me.


    +1

    As long as I'm safe it's my business.


    I'll agree with that as well. I'm not talking about acting against my own perceptions of risky behaviour. I'm talking about the suggestion that being gay is in itself a risk. There is so much fear. The fear is a bigger truth than the actual choice to have sex.

    If a straight man has unprotected sex, the first thought that crosses his mind is most definitely not "Oh jesus. now I might get HIV". He's probably gonna go to the bar and brag about it.

    If a gay man (or a man who has sex with another man) has "unprotected" sex, then its all about fear and risk. It has become a serious shrine.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:21 PM GMT
    smallbutperfectlyformed said




    sad to say it BUT i think the reason behind that shit has to do with the statistics which show that hiv/aids rates among gay men are higher than the rest of the general population. icon_sad.gif


    The truth of statistics! Oh dear! It has a place you know, but where I live, there was a whole debate about whether gay men may be allowed to donate blood. The blood banks refused, citing statistics from the eighties that quoted anal sex as high risk. They never considered for a moment that straight people part-take in anal sex, are promiscious or that more women than men allegedly have HIV is SA. So, statistics, like any laboratory experiment, can be framed to attain a rhetorical argument in favour of prejudice when it comes to people. It isolates one small feature of human behaviour and then suggest that people tell the truth!
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:28 PM GMT
    newacro said
    smallbutperfectlyformed said




    sad to say it BUT i think the reason behind that shit has to do with the statistics which show that hiv/aids rates among gay men are higher than the rest of the general population. icon_sad.gif


    The truth of statistics! Oh dear! It has a place you know, but where I live, there was a whole debate about whether gay men may be allowed to donate blood. The blood banks refused, citing statistics from the eighties that quoted anal sex as high risk. They never considered for a moment that straight people part-take in anal sex, are promiscious or that more women than men allegedly have HIV is SA. So, statistics, like any laboratory experiment, can be framed to attain a rhetorical argument in favour of prejudice when it comes to people. It isolates one small feature of human behaviour and then suggest that people tell the truth!

    Well, I'm not so sure that "straight" men who have anal sex are actually "straight". I think they are just in denial until they get HIV, or they are bi-sexual and bi-sexuals also visit gay sites so as long as the message is doing some good then what is the problem with that?
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:29 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidit is mainly anyone who bottoms who is at high risk of getting HIV ... most gay men, though they claim to be total tops are versatile ... also some gay men, you very well know, are very promiscuous, increasing their risk for getting HIV and passing it on to others ... the gift that keeps on giving ... straights guys don't have it quite as easy to find sex from a woman ... women more often want to date, be wooed and fall in love before having sex ... guys don't go through all that process, that's why you'll find straight guys getting blow jobs from gay men in the parking lots of strip bars and at book store ... they just want to get off and go. People with HIV may not get checked because they are healthy, in some cases it can take 10 to 15 years before a person realizes they are infected. Most infectious diseases have some sort of outward sign that indicates a person has been infected. Not so with HIV, so a person can unknowingly pass it on to others. Unless they come up with a cure, then we have to keep reminding each other because it is a life altering disease and it is 100% preventable.


    Well I can't argue with any of your points. But your points are made within a framework of truths and beliefs that have been perpetually suggested and continues to be suggested to anyone who may be interested in men to the point of it having become an absolute "Thou Shall Not!".

    And I think the suggestion that straight men do not get as much sex as gay men is nonsense. My cousin for instance likes to have sex with 3 women in 1 day. And I'm not even talking about prostitution. Straight men are far more likely to hit the trade than gay men. Prostitution is not called the world's oldest profession for no reason!
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    Yeah, I'm gona get hiv from ticking a box on a gay site. Uh, huh, that's it. Programming me, it is, to want to go out and have unprotected butt sex. Yah sir ree.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    newacro said
    AMoonHawk saidit is mainly anyone who bottoms who is at high risk of getting HIV ... most gay men, though they claim to be total tops are versatile ... also some gay men, you very well know, are very promiscuous, increasing their risk for getting HIV and passing it on to others ... the gift that keeps on giving ... straights guys don't have it quite as easy to find sex from a woman ... women more often want to date, be wooed and fall in love before having sex ... guys don't go through all that process, that's why you'll find straight guys getting blow jobs from gay men in the parking lots of strip bars and at book store ... they just want to get off and go. People with HIV may not get checked because they are healthy, in some cases it can take 10 to 15 years before a person realizes they are infected. Most infectious diseases have some sort of outward sign that indicates a person has been infected. Not so with HIV, so a person can unknowingly pass it on to others. Unless they come up with a cure, then we have to keep reminding each other because it is a life altering disease and it is 100% preventable.


    Well I can't argue with any of your points. But your points are made within a framework of truths and beliefs that have been perpetually suggested and continues to be suggested to anyone who may be interested in men to the point of it having become an absolute "Thou Shall Not!".

    And I think the suggestion that straight men do not get as much sex as gay men is nonsense. My cousin for instance likes to have sex with 3 women in 1 day. And I'm not even talking about prostitution. Straight men are far more likely to hit the trade than gay men. Prostitution is not called the world's oldest profession for no reason!


    And again, a straight man having sex with a woman is a Top ... tops do not have as high a risk for getting HIV ... women are not as promiscuous as men, so while your cousin might have sex with 3 women a day, those women are not as likely to be having unprotected sex with other men. Not to say that there is zero risk, because everyone that has sex with multiple partners is a risk for HIV. But, gay men just have a greater risk and that is just a fact of life since the 1980's (or somewhere there abouts.)
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:37 PM GMT
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:40 PM GMT
    newacro said

    How about the suggestion that sex can be healthy, fun and safe and dealing with the issues surrounding the denial of sexual urges? Which are about mistrust and fear. Especially amongst gay men, because we are brain washed into to.


    I'll agree, that it would be nice to see some positive advertising on having healthy sex ... but just how does one go about that? icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:45 PM GMT
    smallbutperfectlyformed said


    the blood banks is some other shit.

    still doesn't change the fact that the hiv/aids rate among gay men is higher than the general pop at large. you can't deny that.


    That's an easy one. The rates in countries like Russia, Brazil, China and India are suggested to be sky high and that those countries are furthermore in denial.

    In SA most victims of HIV are women, not men. Those are archaic statistics. But as I said, statistics cannot be trusted. And because so many gay men expect to become +, they are more likely to have a test for statistical gathering purposes than straight men and women are likely to do.

    I do not deny the reality of HIV. I am talking about the fear of it as being synonymous with having gay sex.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:52 PM GMT
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    I'll agree, that it would be nice to see some positive advertising on having healthy sex ... but just how does one go about that? icon_confused.gif


    Yes AMoonHawk, I agree, do not deny people the ability to make informed decisions. But who controls the information? Are you still making an informed decision when the information itself suggests the outcome?

    How do you go about advertising healthy sex? How has being gay become synonymous with the virtually inescapable expectation that a gay lifestyle leads to disaster?!

    Gay people did it. And for good reason. But when does it become time to turn the tide of perception? Are we truly free when we continue to suggest and spread messages of fear? Do you not think it begins with a site like this one not leaving people on a departure page that reinforces a self-fulfilling prophecy?
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    newacro said
    smallbutperfectlyformed said


    the blood banks is some other shit.

    still doesn't change the fact that the hiv/aids rate among gay men is higher than the general pop at large. you can't deny that.


    That's an easy one. The rates in countries like Russia, Brazil, China and India are suggested to be sky high and that those countries are furthermore in denial.

    In SA most victims of HIV are women, not men. Those are archaic statistics. But as I said, statistics cannot be trusted. And because so many gay men expect to become +, they are more likely to have a test for statistical gathering purposes than straight men and women are likely to do.

    I do not deny the reality of HIV. I am talking about the fear of it as being synonymous with having gay sex.


    newacro I think there's a couple of things you don't know about straight people. Anal intercourse in some places is what straights do as there is limited easy access to birth control, like condoms.

    and this: "So straight men can fuck around as much as they want and the chances of them getting HIV+ is far less than when gay men fuck around, because gay men spread aids."

    You also have to know that a vast number of straights use condoms. Did you think that the condom industry could support itself solely on gay clientele?

    Guys sleeping around are not interested in having babies, and trusting the casually met gal to use birth control can have a rather long lasting consequence. There's also the issues of sexual diseases other than HIV, like treatment resistant strains.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:54 PM GMT
    PR_GMR saidI hear you, newacro. It's a fascism now deeply ingrained in the community. You can't be a 'normal' fag unless you're wearing a condom %100 of the time.. and if you don't wear a condomr %100 you must have a death wish. You'll see that around here all the time.

    I got tired of that shit. It's my body.. and I'll do as I please with it. I will enjoy bareback sex with select partners if I want to.. and don't give a crap what anyone thinks of me.


    We lead by example and this is the WORST example. Thanks. This is someone we should NOT want to be.
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    Oct 05, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
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    PR_GMR saidI hear you, newacro. It's a fascism now deeply ingrained in the community. You can't be a 'normal' fag unless you're wearing a condom %100 of the time.. and if you don't wear a condomr %100 you must have a death wish. You'll see that around here all the time.

    I got tired of that shit. It's my body.. and I'll do as I please with it. I will enjoy bareback sex with select partners if I want to.. and don't give a crap what anyone thinks of me.


    We lead by example and this is the WORST example. Thanks. This is someone who should NOT want to be.


    Except I'm not leading. No one should be anyone else's fucking role model. Good fucking god, you judgmental moron, you don't get that. It's your choice whatever you want to do with other consenting adults.