Bipolar, real or an emo excuse?

  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 4:28 AM GMT
    It just seems like a lot of 20 something year olds, Are "bi polar", Do any of you notice this. Personally I think its an excuse "I like, oh I'm too depressed to want you, but I still want you". I think its a crock of shit, I think its emo BS. Anybody please correct me!!
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 5:15 AM GMT
    no im asking if you think the generation whiners are using it as an excuse so they can be wishy washy little pricks and have no consequences for there actions.
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    Oct 07, 2013 5:28 AM GMT
    Dude are you for real? Some of my best friends suffer from this on a daily basis and you are really asking that question? You apparently have no idea what bipolar syndrome is. It's not simply about being moody. Anyone can be moody. No human that doesn't have bipolar should ever diagnose themselves with it, because it is a life long issue that is battled. Imagine if you had no control over your moods and they swang back and forth through extremes. Your depressed and want to kill your self for a whole month straight, then you come out of it and end up going into mania and having risky sex, spending all your money, trying new drugs, losing friends due to mean things you said, then you come down from your mania and you are normal for a little and have to deal with all the self destructive problems you created while you were delusional, and barely remember doing those things. Then you are overwhelmed with guilt for pushing away your loved ones and next thing you know you are depressed again. It's not a joke, I suggest you do some research. As far as bipolar and gay connection, I think a lot of it has to do with the hyper sexuality aspect of bipolar which seems to cause sexual identity issues . I have done a lot of research on various mental illness due to having loved ones that suffer from them and these illnesses should never be questioned.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 5:31 AM GMT
    that's interesting I didn't know that, that is helpful.
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    Oct 07, 2013 5:34 AM GMT
    Many people don't. They are chemical imbalances and misfires in the brain. They can only be treated with medication. icon_smile.gif sad that America doesn't educate ppl on mental health. Bipolar is actually more common than most would think.
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    Oct 07, 2013 5:36 AM GMT
    I know a lot of teenagers at school that claim that. What if they really have bipolar though? If you guys really feel like you have it, you should go to the doctors.
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    Oct 07, 2013 5:38 AM GMT
    Depression and bipolar disorder are not the same. Depression is a component of bipolar disorder, as is mania, hence the name bipolar. You can't just say "I'm bipolar" just because you're in a funk or Emo, or whatever bullshit. It has to be diagnosed by a mental health professional and treated with drugs. So no, if the maniac component is not there, it's not bipolar disorder. Or just because someone says they are because of their "emo" stuff, whatever that means. (I'm an RN, that's why I know these things)

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    Oct 07, 2013 5:41 AM GMT
    The saddest thing about bipolars is that they never know for sure what they want, because when their mood changes everything is viewed completely different.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 5:57 AM GMT
    this is actually really helpfull I mean I wickied bipolor thats what he said he is but there is to much info i don't understand. he wont take his meds should I say call me when you decide to get medicated or keep trying to help I do love him.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 6:11 AM GMT
    can you tell me what to do, Im lost here.I's been 3yrs of him "disapearing" for months then reapearing acting like he's on meth.
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    Oct 07, 2013 6:14 AM GMT
    If you had to make a thread on bipolarism, he definitely has it.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 07, 2013 6:43 AM GMT
    It's an over used syndrome which most probably don't have. Real bi-polars need lots of meds and they really don't relate well in any world, real or cyber.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 6:56 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidIt's an over used syndrome which most probably don't have. Real bi-polars need lots of meds and they really don't relate well in any world, real or cyber.
    thats what I was thinking Right now I'm calling him out on it, he's trying to say he's too depressed to even talk. I'm calling bullshit on him, but I'm gonna feel really bad if I'm wrong.I have been really nice and understanding up until this point now I have had a fucking nuff n I'm gonna kick his fucking ass if he's pulling shit on me.
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    Oct 07, 2013 7:04 AM GMT
    Oh yeah I guess I didn't mention there is bipolar 1 and two. Anyways, if a bipolar person says they are too depressed to talk, you better appreciate that. Atleast he's being honest. Some bipolars won't even tell you they'll just stop talking to you. Just support him emotionally and mentAlly until he comes back out of depression. I don't think you are really ready to deal with dating an in medicated bipolar. It's a roller coaster for them, but it will be for you too.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 7:15 AM GMT
    Ya your right, It has been a roller coaster ride since I've met him. And you know what, I think I'm gettin the fuck off until he gets medicated. I do think he is a selfish little fucking prick though, because he doesn't care about what he is doing to the ones who love him. Plus he's making me want to kill his ass, which I don't like feeling this way.
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    Oct 07, 2013 7:50 AM GMT
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    AMoonHawk saidIt's an over used syndrome which most probably don't have. Real bi-polars need lots of meds and they really don't relate well in any world, real or cyber.

    That is utter nonsense.
    I agree, complete crap
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    Oct 07, 2013 7:53 AM GMT
    They do care, just not all the time. But think about it. If you are constantly battling something within, you'll to some extent maintain selfishness. Once he's medicated he can worry less about himself and more about others.
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    Oct 07, 2013 7:58 AM GMT
    Definitely real. I've been around people who have been diagnosed and it is VERY much a real thing.
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    Oct 07, 2013 8:09 AM GMT
    mykale saidcan you tell me what to do, Im lost here.I's been 3yrs of him "disapearing" for months then reapearing acting like he's on meth.
    I dunno. He sounds unstable. If he won't accept your help, then let him go. Maybe his family can step in or something.
  • Amelorn

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    Oct 07, 2013 8:41 AM GMT
    It is very real. I have a friend with this who is great sometimes and absent/terrible at others. "Burning his bridges" is something of a ritual with him. I learned that it's effectively beyond his control, and he has a habit of extending the olive branch in his own way, so I've decided to stick with him. This can be troublesome when he goes through his "I don't answer my e-mails" phase...

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    Oct 07, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
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    cj1111 saidThe saddest thing about bipolars is that they never know for sure what they want, because when their mood changes everything is viewed completely different.

    This is not exactly accurate.
    Bipolarity does not present identically for each person with it. In my case, the swings were much milder than you describe, but nonetheless real. Also, the periodicity is different for each person. My 'manic' time was always much shorter than the far longer depressive periods.

    I am now and have been for years completely controlled by medication. Unfortunately, around 15% of all bipolars are resistant to any medications currently known. I am lucky to be in the 85%.


    I knew I've heard about this also from Wiki:
    "Cyclothymia, also called cyclothymic disorder, is a type of chronic mood disorder widely considered to be a milder or subthreshold form of bipolar disorder..."
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 4:33 PM GMT
    Amelorn saidIt is very real. I have a friend with this who is great sometimes and absent/terrible at others. "Burning his bridges" is something of a ritual with him. I learned that it's effectively beyond his control, and he has a habit of extending the olive branch in his own way, so I've decided to stick with him. This can be troublesome when he goes through his "I don't answer my e-mails" phase...

    it's really hard to not take this personal, I guess what is this is right now I really need him and he's not there. I guess it's just kind of a rude awakening, and I'm kinda like guy want to keep dealing with this. and it really affects my self esteem. guess I should have take a hint when I found out he lives with his parents at 29 as in they tell him to clean his room and what not.
  • mykale

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    Oct 07, 2013 4:40 PM GMT
    After reading all your guyses excellent advice, thank you for all of that, sorry I had to place the question so harshly. but that seems the best way to get people to talk to your thread, I think I have made the decision to back off of him and let him go, honestly my own life is too crazy and I am too busy to play amateur psychotherapist. it's just really sad because we have so much in common. I think I'm going to go with the get medicated and call me approach I'm just glad I found this out now was just about to move in with him.:0 anyway thanks again guys
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    Oct 07, 2013 4:48 PM GMT
    I haven't done enough research on bipolar; do I feel people use the term incorrectly -- similar to how people say I "love" this or I "love" you for that, YES! (I'm guilty of this)

    People that haven't actually experienced or know someone who suffers from retardation, autism, depression, or bipolar may use terms without realizing the impact a true diagnosis has on an individual.

    I truly believe cognitive therapy and taking responsibility for your emotions is similar to diet and exercise, and having a diagnosis (bipolar) is similar to hypothyroidism.

    The individual needs to take responsibility for their life BUT if they're unable to see life rationally (1), then it doesn't matter how much exercise or dieting you do: the problem will remain.

    This doesn't necessarily help you OP, ask him if he's seeing a doctor for it. If he is, respect that he is telling you the truth.

    (1) Chemicals being produced in the correct amounts and maintaining the correct balance; reuptake drugs supposedly keep things circulating in the synapses.

    Annoying Random Thought: People like Tom Cruise that think there is no need for medical intervention (medication), if a problem continues to hinder someone's life, are ignorant or extremely insensitive. Remember Oprah and the couch jumping!