Post-ABC poll: Republican disapproval grows to whopping 70% after conservatives cause shutdown

  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/07/republican-disapproval-grows-in-budget-battle-post-abc-poll-finds/Disapproval of congressional Republicans’ budget wrangling after a weeklong shutdown has shot up to 70 percent, with 51 percent disapproving “strongly,” according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    At the same time, President Obama’s approval rating has ticked up due to improved marks among moderate Democrats and independents. No group, however, earns positive marks for their handling of budget negotiations overall.


    What, exactly, is going on the Rand Paul/Ted Cruz alternate universe where polls are skewed, Romney was going to win, and Americans are not smart enough to know that this shutdown fiasco is all the fault of a dangerous right-wing conservative minority?
  • rnch

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    Oct 07, 2013 10:46 PM GMT
    Let's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:04 PM GMT
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    Touche', although I'd much rather Republicans get their act together and stop letting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz hold them hostage.
  • PolitiMAC

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:05 PM GMT
    It's not like the Democrats are that far behind, you know icon_razz.gif Looks like they are hated pretty equally. And mind you, polls can be great for barracking, believe me, I loved seeing our Coalition being ahead in the polls preceding our recent election. However, polls can be widely off if the time it was taken is too long from the next election. Our polling was saying Labor was going to win several times over the last 6 years icon_razz.gif Didn't turn out that way.

    So at this time, it would be difficult to condemn so completely, as you love to do, and instead, we should take this as an indication of what the people who were polled think, and you know, polling can be directed. Also, with your media presenting the Leftist point of view consistently, it is hard to see how the American people who didn't extensively read news could get any other opinion.

    Here are a few articles that detail another point of view for balance:

    1. http://washingtonexaminer.com/journalists-unfair-to-democrats-says-harry-reid/article/2536892

    2. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/the-federal-government-cant-and-wont-default-on-its-debt-obligations.php

    3. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/shutdown-theater-mount-rushmore-edition.php

    4. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/10/shutdown-theater-how-is-it-playing.php

    5. http://pjmedia.com/eddriscoll/2013/10/05/barackalypse-now-3/

    Admittedly, the last one looks less official, but still. It presents a point of view often denounced as stupid by so many on this site. But give it a go, and see what happens!
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  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:11 PM GMT
    PolitiNerd saidIt's not like the Democrats are that far behind, you know icon_razz.gif Looks like they are hated pretty equally.


    According to this poll, 61% disapprove of the way Democrats in Congress are handling the shutdown.

    51% disapprove of the way Obama is handling it.

    51% and 61% are not equal to 70%. A 9% difference in electoral terms is called a landslide -- if Democrats win 9% more of the vote next year than Republicans, they will be at near supermajority status in Congress.

    I know math is hard for Republicans, as is reading polls given how you were all convinced that polls don't matter and were skewed etc. once it became clear to everyone but head-in-the-sand Republicans than Obama was going to be re-elected.

    But we know that rather than change their ways, Republicans would rather pretend that their 70% disapproval rating actually means Obama/Democrats are in trouble -- we saw this kind of cognitive dissonance last year this time.

    Republicans are delusional. They need to stop spending so much time in Limbaugh/Washington Examiner/Powerline right wingosphere land and join the real world -- maybe they won't keep being blindsided by their electoral unpopularity.
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    TroyAthlete said
    PolitiNerd saidIt's not like the Democrats are that far behind, you know icon_razz.gif Looks like they are hated pretty equally.


    According to this poll, 61% disapprove of the way Democrats in Congress are handling the shutdown.

    51% disapprove of the way Obama is handling it.

    51% and 61% are not equal to 70%. A 9% difference in electoral terms is called a landslide -- if Democrats win 9% more of the vote next year than Republicans, they will be at near supermajority status in the House.

    I know math is hard for Republicans, as is reading polls given how you were all convinced that polls don't matter and were skewed etc. once it became clear to everyone but Republicans than Obama was going to be re-elected.

    But we know that rather than change their ways, Republicans would rather pretend that their 70% disapproval rating actually means Obama/Democrats are in trouble -- we saw this kind of cognitive dissonance last year this time.

    Republicans are delusional.


    You forgot to work in the word "whining" in your post like you have in all the others. icon_razz.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    Touche', although I'd much rather Republicans get their act together and stop letting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz hold them hostage.
    I agree 100%. It is time to evict the radical tea partiers from the GOP along with all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
    franktats saidYou forgot to work in the word "whining" in your post like you have in all the others. icon_razz.gif


    You forgot to tell someone who cares. icon_cool.gif
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:17 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    TroyAthlete said
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    Touche', although I'd much rather Republicans get their act together and stop letting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz hold them hostage.
    I agree 100%. It is time to evict the radical tea partiers from the GOP along with all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs.


    I don't understand the unholy alliance between these Ayn Rand-loving Paulbots and the un-Christian righties like Ted Cruz, but I really don't get why reasonable Republicans have let these insane characters take over the asylum.

    It's almost as if they want to lose.
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    roadbikeRob said
    TroyAthlete said
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    Touche', although I'd much rather Republicans get their act together and stop letting Rand Paul and Ted Cruz hold them hostage.
    I agree 100%. It is time to evict the radical tea partiers from the GOP along with all the narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs.


    "narrow minded, bible thumping screwballs"

    How 'bout "the liberal extremist hens"?
  • creature

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    Oct 07, 2013 11:41 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    PolitiNerd saidIt's not like the Democrats are that far behind, you know icon_razz.gif Looks like they are hated pretty equally.


    According to this poll, 61% disapprove of the way Democrats in Congress are handling the shutdown.

    51% disapprove of the way Obama is handling it.

    51% and 61% are not equal to 70%. A 9% difference in electoral terms is called a landslide -- if Democrats win 9% more of the vote next year than Republicans, they will be at near supermajority status in Congress.

    I know math is hard for Republicans, as is reading polls given how you were all convinced that polls don't matter and were skewed etc. once it became clear to everyone but head-in-the-sand Republicans than Obama was going to be re-elected.

    But we know that rather than change their ways, Republicans would rather pretend that their 70% disapproval rating actually means Obama/Democrats are in trouble -- we saw this kind of cognitive dissonance last year this time.

    Republicans are delusional. They need to stop spending so much time in Limbaugh/Washington Examiner/Powerline right wingosphere land and join the real world -- maybe they won't keep being blindsided by their electoral unpopularity.


    Co-signed.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 08, 2013 8:57 AM GMT
    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2013/10/07/polls-republicans-draw-more-fire-on-shutdown/

    Polls: Republicans Draw More Fire on Shutdown
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 09, 2013 3:31 PM GMT
    http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/suicide-of-the-right/Every piece of evidence we have so far on the government shutdown shows the public is blaming Republicans most of all for the standoff. On Monday, an ABC poll showed 71 percent fault the GOP; 61 percent fault Congressional Democrats; 51 percent fault President Obama.

    Yes, Democrats look bad. Yes, Obama is probably doing himself no favors by saying he won’t negotiate when the public wants politicians in Washington to work together.

    But Republicans look considerably worse. And for the Right, the Republican Party is the only game in town.


    Wow, even the New York Post is giving up on conservatives.
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Oct 11, 2013 10:37 PM GMT
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    It's looking like they will. Conservative Republicans shun moderate ones and align with the crazed, brain-damaged Tea Party people now. These Tea Party haters are now what the Republican Party is all about.

    Voters (those the Republicans have not disenfranchised yet) see through all this. Independent voters are siding with Democrats and swing voters can plainly see the Republican/Tea Party brand does not identify with their beliefs--or any sane person's beliefs for that matter.
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    Oct 11, 2013 10:39 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidIndependent voters are siding with Democrats


    Do you have a source that backs up this statement. Some polling data perhaps?
  • rnch

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    Oct 11, 2013 11:55 PM GMT
    SeanHamilton said
    turtleneckjock saidIndependent voters are siding with Democrats


    Do you have a source that backs up this statement. Some polling data perhaps?




    "Skewed" or "un-skewed"?
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 12, 2013 4:21 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    It's looking like they will. Conservative Republicans shun moderate ones and align with the crazed, brain-damaged Tea Party people now. These Tea Party haters are now what the Republican Party is all about.

    Voters (those the Republicans have not disenfranchised yet) see through all this. Independent voters are siding with Democrats and swing voters can plainly see the Republican/Tea Party brand does not identify with their beliefs--or any sane person's beliefs for that matter.


    Well a year is a long time. What's true is that the Republican Party is deeply unpopular right now. It may take years to undo the Republicants' gerrymandered control over the House, but it is true that their current unpopularity at least puts the House in play. The story has gone from "There's no way Dems can retake the House" to "It's possible Dems could retake the House" which was unthinkable two weeks ago.

    Thanks Ted Cruz and Rand Paul for bringing the crazy!
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 12, 2013 9:00 PM GMT
    turtleneckjock said
    rnch saidLet's hope that American voters still feel this disgust & disapproval at the next election.


    It's looking like they will. Conservative Republicans shun moderate ones and align with the crazed, brain-damaged Tea Party people now. These Tea Party haters are now what the Republican Party is all about.

    Voters (those the Republicans have not disenfranchised yet) see through all this. Independent voters are siding with Democrats and swing voters can plainly see the Republican/Tea Party brand does not identify with their beliefs--or any sane person's beliefs for that matter.
    Sad but very true. The brain damaged tea party haters have pretty much demolished the GOP. However the demolition of the GOP started when that evangelical lunatic James Dobson and his Focus on the Family organization gained increasing power in the GOP.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 13, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
    rnch said
    SeanHamilton said
    turtleneckjock saidIndependent voters are siding with Democrats


    Do you have a source that backs up this statement. Some polling data perhaps?




    "Skewed" or "un-skewed"?


    FTW.
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    roadbikeRob said
    However the demolition of the GOP started when that evangelical lunatic James Dobson and his Focus on the Family organization gained increasing power in the GOP.

    Let's also give some credit to Karl Rove, whose strategy to wed the Republicans to evangelical Christians has produced a Frankenparty.

    Now the Republicans can't win without the evangelicals, and it may not be able to win WITH them, either. And it has certainly made it impossible for Republicans to govern in Congress, with a significant religiously-motivated faction that is too fanatical to accept the political compromises that have traditionally allowed our 2-party system to get things done.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 13, 2013 10:28 PM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    roadbikeRob said
    However the demolition of the GOP started when that evangelical lunatic James Dobson and his Focus on the Family organization gained increasing power in the GOP.

    Let's also give some credit to Karl Rove, whose strategy to wed the Republicans to evangelical Christians has produced a Frankenparty.

    Now the Republicans can't win without the evangelicals, and it may not be able to win WITH them, either. And it has certainly made it impossible for Republicans to govern in Congress, with a significant religiously-motivated faction that is too fanatical to accept the political compromises that have traditionally allowed our 2-party system to get things done.


    I'm bringing out the popcorn for the Republican primary season next year.

    It's gwine git ugly!
  • creature

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    Oct 15, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    And the disapproval continues to rise...

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/10/14/poll-republicans-losing-no-win-game/
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    Oct 15, 2013 12:58 AM GMT
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  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 15, 2013 1:33 AM GMT
    You can't pay any attention to the polls that show 3/4 of Americans disapprove of the Republican Party. That's just the Liberal Media® making things up...

    Our hero Ted Cruz says the Teapublicans are "winning" so it must be true! icon_rolleyes.gif