Is this the end for the Republican Party?

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    Oct 09, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    "The Republican Party may be splitting apart. The divide is between conservatives who want to limit government and extremists who oppose governing."

    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-beginning-of-the-end-for-washington-20131001

    " This may be the beginning of the end of Washington as we know it. A rising generation of pragmatic, non-ideological voters is appalled by the dysfunctional leadership of their parents and grandparents. History may consider October 2013 their breaking point. There will come a time when Millennials aren't just mad as hell; they won't take it anymore."

  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 09, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    One can only hope its the end of the "Republican" party and the birth of a party that represents real conservatives and not right-wing nutjobs like the ones here at RealJock.
  • mybud

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    Oct 09, 2013 3:41 PM GMT
    Stick a fork in it...Republican's done.
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    Oct 09, 2013 4:25 PM GMT
    It would be unfortunate if there were no GOP at all. The GOP need not be a party controlled by a mob of hateful homophobes and bigots. In theory at least, they should be for good government and free markets which they are not for right now. At one time, the GOP was a progressive party and in the south, it was the party of inclusion, not exclusion.
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    Oct 09, 2013 4:32 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidIf they lose the House in 2014, which is a lively possibility, there's going to be a raging civil war in the GOP. It could well end up splitting into a center-ish GOP and a Tea Party.


    Chuck Todd had this observation on Charlie Rose -that behind the scenes in the House is a civil war raging for the soul of the GOP.
  • tazzari

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    Oct 09, 2013 7:41 PM GMT
    neuergriff1 saidIt would be unfortunate if there were no GOP at all. The GOP need not be a party controlled by a mob of hateful homophobes and bigots. In theory at least, they should be for good government and free markets which they are not for right now. At one time, the GOP was a progressive party and in the south, it was the party of inclusion, not exclusion.


    +1

    Moreover, any one-party system is destructive: we need both, but they have to behave like public servants.

    Term limits, public funding of elections: get Big Money out of it, and half the country's problems are solved.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 09, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    neuergriff1 saidIt would be unfortunate if there were no GOP at all. The GOP need not be a party controlled by a mob of hateful homophobes and bigots. In theory at least, they should be for good government and free markets which they are not for right now. At one time, the GOP was a progressive party and in the south, it was the party of inclusion, not exclusion.


    +1

    Moreover, any one-party system is destructive: we need both, but they have to behave like public servants.

    Term limits, public funding of elections: get Big Money out of it, and half the country's problems are solved.


    In my view, the main issue with our system is gerrymandering. Elimination of that would fix a crap-ton.
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    Oct 09, 2013 8:51 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    neuergriff1 saidIt would be unfortunate if there were no GOP at all. The GOP need not be a party controlled by a mob of hateful homophobes and bigots. In theory at least, they should be for good government and free markets which they are not for right now. At one time, the GOP was a progressive party and in the south, it was the party of inclusion, not exclusion.


    +1

    Moreover, any one-party system is destructive: we need both, but they have to behave like public servants.

    Term limits, public funding of elections: get Big Money out of it, and half the country's problems are solved.


    Bingo!

    Citizens United = big boo

    Plus it would be a LOT less annoying to watch TV around erection time.
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    Oct 09, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
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    Whig Party anyone?
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    Oct 09, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
    The demographics are not in the Republican Party's favour either. It's time to change or die. If they allow themselves to be dragged down by the Tea Party, they'll only have themselves to blame.
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    Oct 10, 2013 12:48 AM GMT
    topathlete said
    Aristoshark saidIf they lose the House in 2014, which is a lively possibility, there's going to be a raging civil war in the GOP. It could well end up splitting into a center-ish GOP and a Tea Party.

    If that were to happen and it's unlikely - then the center-ish GOP would become very attractive to the more fiscal conservative Democrats - the Blue Dogs who were thrown under the bus by Reid and Pelosi. We would probably end up with a very powerful center/moderate party and the far left and far right would become marginalized. That would suck if you're a hard leftie, wouldn't it? In addition we would have the problems of a defacto single-party system. Be careful what you wish for.


    We can hope for 2 center/moderate parties. The current Democratic Party matches the definition. The remains of the Republicans will form such a party if they have any chance of survival.

    The Tea Party will go on too. They will join the other outlying groups collectively scoring about 10% of the total vote.
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    Oct 10, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
    I hope it is! The old GOP is the Gone Out to Pasture!
  • TroyAthlete

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    Oct 12, 2013 4:14 AM GMT
    topathlete said
    Aristoshark saidIf they lose the House in 2014, which is a lively possibility, there's going to be a raging civil war in the GOP. It could well end up splitting into a center-ish GOP and a Tea Party.

    If that were to happen and it's unlikely - then the center-ish GOP would become very attractive to the more fiscal conservative Democrats - the Blue Dogs who were thrown under the bus by Reid and Pelosi. We would probably end up with a very powerful center/moderate party and the far left and far right would become marginalized. That would suck if you're a hard leftie, wouldn't it?


    It would also suck if unicorns invaded California. I don't think anybody is losing any sleep about the Republican Party becoming attractive to any reasonable people any time soon haha.