We're all dying

  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 12, 2013 6:25 PM GMT
    So, I have been studying for a certification for my job for the past several months, because my job is now requiring a certificate of certification. The certification, has little to do with the actual work I do. When I was ready to take the test for the certification, they suddenly pulled the test (within the same company.) Now I am studying for a different certification, which again has little to do with my job.

    The timeline push to get this done is from first-line management, not upper management, and soon this certification will also become obsolete (2 weeks). This means I am spending ALL my free time studying old information.

    I feel like my job has stolen the last 6 months of my life and no amount of money can ever repay my time back. We are all living on borrowed time and we never know when our time clock will be punched. It could be today, tomorrow, a week from now, or 30 years from now. But every moment of life is precious. We do have to do things in life in order to survive. But I feel that when my time is purposely and foolishly wasted by others then I should be compensated for the time that has stolen from my life.

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  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 12, 2013 6:54 PM GMT
    I demand justice from the Universe .... let the time stolen from me, be taken from his line and added to mine
  • jo2hotbod

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    Oct 12, 2013 7:07 PM GMT
    Unfortunately when it's someone else's time and not their own they won't care much, if at all
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk saidSo, I have been studying for a certification for my job for the past several months, because my job is now requiring a certificate of certification. The certification, has little to do with the actual work I do. When I was ready to take the test for the certification, they suddenly pulled the test (within the same company.) Now I am studying for a different certification, which again has little to do with my job.

    The timeline push to get this done is from first-line management, not upper management, and soon this certification will also become obsolete (2 weeks). This means I am spending ALL my free time studying old information.

    I feel like my job has stolen the last 6 months of my life and no amount of money can ever repay my time back. We are all living on borrowed time and we never know when our time clock will be punched. It could be today, tomorrow, a week from now, or 30 years from now. But every moment of life is precious. We do have to do things in life in order to survive. But I feel that when my time is purposely and foolishly wasted by others then I should be compensated for the time that has stolen from my life.

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    This tells me that your company is run by a bunch of morons. Have you complained to your manager? If the certifications have no real value to your job, then what's the point?
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    jo2hotbod saidUnfortunately when it's someone else's time and not their own they won't care much, if at all

    Yup. Good managers realize that their people (and their time) is their most important asset.
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:15 PM GMT
    xrichx saidThis tells me that your company is run by. a bunch of morons. Have you complained to your manager? If the certifications have to real value to your job, then what's the point?

    yes I did go to a higher level ... I'll have to wait to see what happens ... but in the mean time, I still have to get this done because I already put a lot of my personal time into it
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:20 PM GMT
    Lol you sound like what I used to sound like in high school.

    EDIT: Minus the whole it being for work part
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:22 PM GMT
    Time for you to question what you want out of life. I've been laying naked in a tree in Maui for the past week and I'm the happiest I've ever been.
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    Oct 12, 2013 7:29 PM GMT
    Where I used to work, there was no objective for any of the required "training" sessions - just a minimum number of hours spent "training" was mandated. At first, one could take a challenge exam and just skip it, but that's when the minimum wasted hours requirement came it. There was a large work force (of useless bureaucrats) whose jobs depended on those hours, and who also had the power to establish and require new "classes." Oh, and we were supposed to pay them for the time, from our project budgets. Which of course had no provision for that kind of charge. It was literally stealing from the clients, as well as weeks of my life.

    Near the end, the new security system let the bureaucrats automatically lock me out of my lab and office if I hadn't attended and paid for all of the required "training" sessions. I had to go up several levels of management to argue that this was all clearly "overhead" charges and could not be billed to clients as direct charges.
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    Oct 12, 2013 8:15 PM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    xrichx saidThis tells me that your company is run by. a bunch of morons. Have you complained to your manager? If the certifications have to real value to your job, then what's the point?

    yes I did go to a higher level ... I'll have to wait to see what happens ... but in the mean time, I still have to get this done because I already put a lot of my personal time into it
    I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that whoever approved this certification requirement also happens to be friends with the company that is teaching the certification.
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    Oct 12, 2013 8:33 PM GMT
    I really wouldn't call it dying. It is more like ageing.

    Dying suggests the loss of function in a gradual manner, but our bodies are still functioning properly.
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    Oct 12, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    Aren't you getting paid?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 12, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    DudeInNOVA saidAren't you getting paid?

    No, not for study time ... I have to do all that all on my own time ... so I work 9 to 10 hours a day then when I get off, I get something to eat and do what ever then start reading manuals ... my weekends should be for me, but I have had to devote a lot of my weekend time to more reading ... again for info that is about to become obsolete and which provide very little more information for what I have to do ... by the time I will ever use any this information I will have likely forgotten it, or it will have changed or can just google it... I really feel it is waste of time and since I am force to learn it to pass the certification, I feel, like it is worse then a jail sentence because my personal life is being devoted to learn material my job is requiring for absolutely no good reason other than to make my life miserable. While I like some of the new information I have acquired, it will almost none ever be put to any use. If I have to learn something, I would rather learn something I'm actually going to use. .... Like something for a new career icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 13, 2013 1:44 AM GMT
    Welcome to the new world of work! Its all about your marketable skills combined with your professional network. "Job security" has long since become like caek...a lie.

    The sooner everybody accepts this and puts on their running shoes, the sooner cheese will be found.
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    Oct 13, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    The world in which you live is not your life.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 13, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
    GAMRican saidWelcome to the new world of work! Its all about your marketable skills combined with your professional network. "Job security" has long since become like caek...a lie.

    The sooner everybody accepts this and puts on their running shoes, the sooner cheese will be found.

    I know there is no job security especially where I work. It's not like I'm being paid 100's of thousands of dollars a year either, so to put that much more unnecessary effort in to the job, just cuts what I am already paid in half (for the time I put in). So why work one job with crappy pay if you are doing the work of two jobs ... there comes a point where you say, okay, I can actually work two jobs for less pay and actually make more money. Just like there is no job security, there is also no job loyalty. Sure everyone pretends they are loyal, but the first opportunity that comes along, and it is 'see ya, don't call me, I'll call you .... and good luck with all that crap you were dumping on me, now you'll need 3 or 4 people to do it.
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    Oct 13, 2013 6:32 AM GMT
    AMoonHawk said
    GAMRican saidWelcome to the new world of work! Its all about your marketable skills combined with your professional network. "Job security" has long since become like caek...a lie.

    The sooner everybody accepts this and puts on their running shoes, the sooner cheese will be found.

    I know there is no job security especially where I work. It's not like I'm being paid 100's of thousands of dollars a year either, so to put that much more unnecessary effort in to the job, just cuts what I am already paid in half (for the time I put in). So why work one job with crappy pay if you are doing the work of two jobs ... there comes a point where you say, okay, I can actually work two jobs for less pay and actually make more money. Just like there is no job security, there is also no job loyalty. Sure everyone pretends they are loyal, but the first opportunity that comes along, and it is 'see ya, don't call me, I'll call you .... and good luck with all that crap you were dumping on me, now you'll need 3 or 4 people to do it.


    This was my situation. Then, I made the strategic decision to do high value work, but do it for free for a while (donating time pro bono to nonprofit organizations). This added resume creds and case studies which I now bill out at over $200 per hour. I also work out of my backpack, coffee houses, and take time o off when I generally want to. Granted, I trade this for the "security" of a regular paycheck, but why not be the captain of my own career and my own life?

    Being a high-priced "call-boy" has its' perks. jaja!
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 13, 2013 7:51 AM GMT
    GAMRican said

    This was my situation. Then, I made the strategic decision to do high value work, but do it for free for a while (donating time pro bono to nonprofit organizations). This added resume creds and case studies which I now bill out at over $200 per hour. I also work out of my backpack, coffee houses, and take time o off when I generally want to. Granted, I trade this for the "security" of a regular paycheck, but why not be the captain of my own career and my own life?

    Being a high-priced "call-boy" has its' perks. jaja!

    That working for yourself has both its benefits and drawbacks. But I have no plans on quitting. My guess is that eventually they are going to lay the whole lot of us off for a cheaper option to hire abroad. Then I got a year or so to live of a severance or/and unemployment. That should give the opportunity to get my own start up going. Que Sera, Sera.

    In the meantime they'll try to make us as miserable as they can in hopes that well just quit and all the attrition will go abroad.