Mumbai

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    Nov 27, 2008 12:31 AM GMT
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    My heart goes out to the great people of Mumbai and all of the other Indian cities that are suffering under the weight of escalating terrorism.

    This is a horrifying story that is still unfolding.


  • MikePhilPerez

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    Nov 27, 2008 12:59 AM GMT
    I hope no one got hurt or worse?
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    Nov 27, 2008 2:42 AM GMT
    Apparently Mike doesn't get the obsessive reports like we do. At this point, 87 dead, 7 locations being held by terrorists, and more than 180 people injured...so far. icon_sad.gif

    I hope this ends with limited further bloodshed. It's hard to think that the land of Ghandi has gone this way...icon_neutral.gif
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    Nov 27, 2008 2:49 AM GMT
    Any idea why and who is doing this?
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    Nov 27, 2008 2:52 AM GMT
    Deccan Mujahedeen have taken responsibility. Why? Cuz they're bigotted idiots...is there really ever a good enough reason for this crap? They're just really wacked and badly educated.
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    Nov 27, 2008 3:31 AM GMT


    This just up: apparently there are two groups of terrorists working with each other and talk that Al Qaida may be fueling it. There are 10 sites in Mumbai where this is happening and it looks like the Taj Mahal Hotel is getting under control.

    What a horrible mess. Heartbreaking loss of life. My hat's off in sorrow for those there...

    -Doug
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    Nov 27, 2008 3:45 AM GMT
    i was born and raised in bombay.

    this isnt the first terrorist attack, but its pretty bad and its not over yet.

    the city is very resilient, and in a few hours, there will be people lining up to donate blood to strangers and the blood banks will be full.

    i hope this doesnt start communal riots between the hindus and muslims, and that will largely depend on the way the politicians handle this.
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    Nov 27, 2008 4:09 AM GMT
    Thank God you didn't die. You're my only RJ buddy.
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    Nov 27, 2008 4:21 AM GMT
    It is obviously directed to the US with all the outsourcing to India. My employer outsources/outshores to Mumbai and Bangalore.
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    Nov 27, 2008 4:53 AM GMT
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7751160.stm icon_cry.gif
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    Nov 27, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
    and the first thing everybody will say is how we need to eliminate (ie kill) all these people and their supporters... which will only fuel more extremists.

    why is it that these people are willing to give their lives in order to murder others? is it because allah told them to? what conditions have they been living in that allow them to think a flying monster in the sky has instructed them to go on suicide mission?
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:01 AM GMT
    "And you know, one of the things that I think is happening is that these militant terrorist groups are actually terrified that [President-elect Barack] Obama's gestures to the rest of the Muslim world may actually overturn the tables on them by alienating them from the rest of the Muslim world, so they're reacting to this.

    You know, this is Obama's opportunity to actually harness the help of the Muslims."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/king.chopra.mumbai/index.html

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    Nov 27, 2008 5:10 AM GMT
    I think it was analyzed the day after the election, and after Al-Queda's comments, just how Obama could crumble their cause. Let them worry...the killing will only hurt them as well. Of course, we've moved forward, have they? It seems this region continues to fuel extremism. It's in the hands of our future State Department - we need diplomacy at it's best.

    Back to them...it's getting worse according to reports. I hope all those will participate, will say a prayer for them and the victims in Afghanistan's embassy bombing. Not to mention for all those suffering tonight...

    A lot of us have a lot to be thankful for: aside from what our capitalistic society has provided, we do at least have a large amount of peace and don't have to worry too much about nuts barging in to kill us all at a random restaurant.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:18 AM GMT
    ursamajor said, "If you look at this picture of the Taj Hotel I was sleeping in the cupola suite on the top left hand side (in flames) less than 60 days ago."


    That really comes off as vain.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:18 AM GMT
    "Christiane Amanpour: Well, Tom, this is the worst attack in India in the last 20 years, where Islamic militants have been stepping up their assaults on Mumbai, which is not just the center of its filmmaking but the economic and financial hub of India."

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/amanpour.mumbai/index.html

    It is a strategy of muslim terrorism to hit at the economies of countries in order to disrupt their societies.

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    Nov 27, 2008 5:22 AM GMT
    coolHUSSEINdude saidursamajor said, "If you look at this picture of the Taj Hotel I was sleeping in the cupola suite on the top left hand side (in flames) less than 60 days ago."


    That really comes off as vain.

    Maybe it's vain. I think it's a natural reaction. But at least, it's not rude!
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:27 AM GMT
    Oh, so I'm the rude one making light of other's plight by placating my existence in someone else's misery because of a common locale.

    When Bhutto was assassinated, I could have gone around saying that I was in that area of Pakistan 10 months earlier, but I didn't because it wasn't about me. That's what I was referring to.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:28 AM GMT
    I'm so glad the world is not run by Queens...it would be this way on the news ALL the time. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:36 AM GMT
    My heart weeps for Mumbaiicon_cry.gif
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:39 AM GMT
    coolHUSSEINdude saidOh, so I'm the rude one making light of other's plight by placating my existence in someone else's misery because of a common locale.

    When Bhutto was assassinated, I could have gone around saying that I was in that area of Pakistan 10 months earlier, but I didn't because it wasn't about me. That's what I was referring to.


    Main Entry: pla·cate
    Inflected Form(s): pla·cat·ed; pla·cat·ing
    : to soothe or mollify especially by concessions : appease

    maybe you meant "...predicating my existence..."

    Main Entry: 2pred·i·cate
    Inflected Form(s): pred·i·cat·ed; pred·i·cat·ing
    3: found , base

    I didnt see his statement as making light of anyone's plight. So maybe that is why I see it as a triviality at most.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:41 AM GMT
    I, too, am saddened for Mumbai.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:41 AM GMT
    They will be in my prayers.
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 27, 2008 5:47 AM GMT
    Why is it even relevant where he slept less than 60 days ago? The misery of others based on the terrorist attacks has nothing to do with his comfortable stay. We don't need to know that he stayed there less than 60 days ago. It's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. But that's how this thread was introduced. Perhaps unintentional, but I consider that vain.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:51 AM GMT
    this is exactly what terrorism has for its goal- shock, disgust, fear, awe.... much like a monstrous child having a conniption fit in a toy store when Mom won't give them what they want. i think the world should gracefully acknowledge, then ignore this stuff, which is as hard as letting a child cry itself to sleep because it doesn't want to go to bed yet... but just as necessary. and let the children over there have their temper-tantrums. its horrifying, yes, but it empowers that kind of behavior to make news stories about it around the world and talk for weeks about it- it makes the terrorists feel important, news worthy, big and bad. if they were all ignored, they'd either realize they weren't accomplishing anything, or the violence would escalate even more until their own people fixed the problem, instead of expecting us to police it. i will never understand why americans see other cultures flagellating themselves or allowing minority organizations to cull them with violence, and think- AH we have to go FIX that! its like trying to stomp out countless forest fires around the world- which should be left to resolve themselves on their own so that new growth and maturity can set in. besides which, we have our own problems to deal with right now- we can no longer AFFORD to police the world. yes, it sounds heartless, and no it doesn't mean i'm not hurting for those over there who have to live with this horror... but come on people, terrorism is meant to evoke terror- deny them that satisfaction and what have they got?

    for the last several years, we've been dowsing the flames with kerosine, not water.

    that said, of course my heart goes out to the victims of such senseless hate and violence. this is why religions are as bad as guns- crazy people can use them to justify and empower anything- but much more convincingly.
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    Nov 27, 2008 5:55 AM GMT
    I disagree. Solving the problem begins with identifying the source of the problem. The terrorists aren't doing this as a PR stunt. They're doing this for a political objective.