my little story :(

  • Sadness_

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    Oct 16, 2013 10:51 PM GMT
    I do not know where to start, but it is a strange feeling sometimes befall us a feeling of frustration because of an act or a person, but in fact my whole life that I live is always frustrated
    Just if am thinking that am Gay sometimes I wish to die because of the country that am belong to , or because of the surrounding community, I live in a country that does not have the basic requirements of human beings to live normally what about Gays?
    A country that knows only killing and destruction and sabotage language
    i live in a country has been called the 'cradle of civilizations', but now not nothing!
    I thought that some gays rights organizations caring about us but day after day i started to lose this feeling because their existence or non-existence is the same thing, it is not able to do
    anything outside the countries that already have gays rights! by the governments itself . it's really sad .
    I didn't opened my eyes to this world as a gay, but with the passage of time i started to find out that I am gay and what is the fault in that?!
    I think that if you are gay or normal it doesn't matter because we all humans and we belong to this blessed earth ! , why did they do all this to us? icon_sad.gif
    sometimes when am browsing Gay networking sites, i didn't use a real address coz I'm afraid that someone may know me and I exposing my life to danger and maybe i'll be killed! and am always used to change my address coz i'm afraid of militias and killers !
    Even if i know someone who is gay in my country through networking sites this seeth I'm also afraid or the person who knew him because of our life icon_sad.gif
    often envy some gays outside my country because they live their lives they have normal rights and have things they do icon_sad.gif , but it seems this is the fact of the matter must be on the former Deal!
    any way I wish to all the ppl beautiful life and especially homosexuals, and i wish for them a life without annoying stuff and inconvenience icon_smile.gif
    Sorry for going on but sometimes I need to talk and share my feelings icon_sad.gif
    Peace
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    Oct 16, 2013 10:56 PM GMT
    Wow. Sorry this is how you're having to experience this part of your life. I thought Greece was more progressive than that. Regardless, please know you are not alone. There are other members here who risk their very lives by posting here. Please know you have friends here. What is the best way we can help you?
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 17, 2013 10:05 AM GMT
    Scruffypup saidWow. Sorry this is how you're having to experience this part of your life. I thought Greece was more progressive than that. Regardless, please know you are not alone. There are other members here who risk their very lives by posting here. Please know you have friends here. What is the best way we can help you?


    thanks for tiyr time dude
    well i'm already mention about my location that is not real
    am not in Greece icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 17, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    I really feel for you , it is not fun to have to live in fear .. I could figure out your country of living , and understand your predicament ...
    Be safe , best of luck .
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    Oct 17, 2013 4:05 PM GMT
    Sadness_ saidI do not know where to start, but it is a strange feeling sometimes befall us a feeling of frustration because of an act or a person, but in fact my whole life that I live is always frustrated
    Just if am thinking that am Gay sometimes I wish to die because of the country that am belong to , or because of the surrounding community, I live in a country that does not have the basic requirements of human beings to live normally what about Gays?
    A country that knows only killing and destruction and sabotage language
    i live in a country has been called the 'cradle of civilizations', but now not nothing!
    I thought that some gays rights organizations caring about us but day after day i started to lose this feeling because their existence or non-existence is the same thing, it is not able to do
    anything outside the countries that already have gays rights! by the governments itself . it's really sad .
    I didn't opened my eyes to this world as a gay, but with the passage of time i started to find out that I am gay and what is the fault in that?!
    I think that if you are gay or normal it doesn't matter because we all humans and we belong to this blessed earth ! , why did they do all this to us? icon_sad.gif
    sometimes when am browsing Gay networking sites, i didn't use a real address coz I'm afraid that someone may know me and I exposing my life to danger and maybe i'll be killed! and am always used to change my address coz i'm afraid of militias and killers !
    Even if i know someone who is gay in my country through networking sites this seeth I'm also afraid or the person who knew him because of our life icon_sad.gif
    often envy some gays outside my country because they live their lives they have normal rights and have things they do icon_sad.gif , but it seems this is the fact of the matter must be on the former Deal!
    any way I wish to all the ppl beautiful life and especially homosexuals, and i wish for them a life without annoying stuff and inconvenience icon_smile.gif
    Sorry for going on but sometimes I need to talk and share my feelings icon_sad.gif
    Peace

    Wow that sounds like a terrible situation to be in? Are you planning on leaving that country?
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 17, 2013 8:21 PM GMT
    neffa saidI really feel for you , it is not fun to have to live in fear .. I could figure out your country of living , and understand your predicament ...
    Be safe , best of luck .


    thank you for your comment actually I live in 'Irak' icon_confused.gif
    and it's really terrible to live here especially for gays
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 17, 2013 8:23 PM GMT
    Behemothboi said
    Sadness_ saidI do not know where to start, but it is a strange feeling sometimes befall us a feeling of frustration because of an act or a person, but in fact my whole life that I live is always frustrated
    Just if am thinking that am Gay sometimes I wish to die because of the country that am belong to , or because of the surrounding community, I live in a country that does not have the basic requirements of human beings to live normally what about Gays?
    A country that knows only killing and destruction and sabotage language
    i live in a country has been called the 'cradle of civilizations', but now not nothing!
    I thought that some gays rights organizations caring about us but day after day i started to lose this feeling because their existence or non-existence is the same thing, it is not able to do
    anything outside the countries that already have gays rights! by the governments itself . it's really sad .
    I didn't opened my eyes to this world as a gay, but with the passage of time i started to find out that I am gay and what is the fault in that?!
    I think that if you are gay or normal it doesn't matter because we all humans and we belong to this blessed earth ! , why did they do all this to us? icon_sad.gif
    sometimes when am browsing Gay networking sites, i didn't use a real address coz I'm afraid that someone may know me and I exposing my life to danger and maybe i'll be killed! and am always used to change my address coz i'm afraid of militias and killers !
    Even if i know someone who is gay in my country through networking sites this seeth I'm also afraid or the person who knew him because of our life icon_sad.gif
    often envy some gays outside my country because they live their lives they have normal rights and have things they do icon_sad.gif , but it seems this is the fact of the matter must be on the former Deal!
    any way I wish to all the ppl beautiful life and especially homosexuals, and i wish for them a life without annoying stuff and inconvenience icon_smile.gif
    Sorry for going on but sometimes I need to talk and share my feelings icon_sad.gif
    Peace

    Wow that sounds like a terrible situation to be in? Are you planning on leaving that country?


    yeah dude in fact I thought about it but there is no way icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 18, 2013 4:19 AM GMT
    Sadness_ said
    Behemothboi said
    Sadness_ saidI do not know where to start, but it is a strange feeling sometimes befall us a feeling of frustration because of an act or a person, but in fact my whole life that I live is always frustrated
    Just if am thinking that am Gay sometimes I wish to die because of the country that am belong to , or because of the surrounding community, I live in a country that does not have the basic requirements of human beings to live normally what about Gays?
    A country that knows only killing and destruction and sabotage language
    i live in a country has been called the 'cradle of civilizations', but now not nothing!
    I thought that some gays rights organizations caring about us but day after day i started to lose this feeling because their existence or non-existence is the same thing, it is not able to do
    anything outside the countries that already have gays rights! by the governments itself . it's really sad .
    I didn't opened my eyes to this world as a gay, but with the passage of time i started to find out that I am gay and what is the fault in that?!
    I think that if you are gay or normal it doesn't matter because we all humans and we belong to this blessed earth ! , why did they do all this to us? icon_sad.gif
    sometimes when am browsing Gay networking sites, i didn't use a real address coz I'm afraid that someone may know me and I exposing my life to danger and maybe i'll be killed! and am always used to change my address coz i'm afraid of militias and killers !
    Even if i know someone who is gay in my country through networking sites this seeth I'm also afraid or the person who knew him because of our life icon_sad.gif
    often envy some gays outside my country because they live their lives they have normal rights and have things they do icon_sad.gif , but it seems this is the fact of the matter must be on the former Deal!
    any way I wish to all the ppl beautiful life and especially homosexuals, and i wish for them a life without annoying stuff and inconvenience icon_smile.gif
    Sorry for going on but sometimes I need to talk and share my feelings icon_sad.gif
    Peace

    Wow that sounds like a terrible situation to be in? Are you planning on leaving that country?


    yeah dude in fact I thought about it but there is no way icon_sad.gif


    Never say never. Why is it so impossible? Money?
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    Oct 18, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    Hi man I know its difficult in your country, one thing may be to look into moving to the UAE, I had many gay friends from Iraq when I lived there.
    Now I know its still a crime to gay in the UAE however its a little easier there and much easier to move on from the UAE to a western country.
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    Oct 18, 2013 5:46 AM GMT
    Is it just the culture? I remember trying to date a guy of middle eastern decent and he Saud his family would literally kill him and me too f they found out.. some kinda mob shit
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    Oct 18, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
    if u can, RELOCATE, even though this is not easy, u have to find courage to leave the situation u are facing. Be safe man and goodluck
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 18, 2013 8:54 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    Sadness_ said
    Behemothboi said
    Sadness_ saidI do not know where to start, but it is a strange feeling sometimes befall us a feeling of frustration because of an act or a person, but in fact my whole life that I live is always frustrated
    Just if am thinking that am Gay sometimes I wish to die because of the country that am belong to , or because of the surrounding community, I live in a country that does not have the basic requirements of human beings to live normally what about Gays?
    A country that knows only killing and destruction and sabotage language
    i live in a country has been called the 'cradle of civilizations', but now not nothing!
    I thought that some gays rights organizations caring about us but day after day i started to lose this feeling because their existence or non-existence is the same thing, it is not able to do
    anything outside the countries that already have gays rights! by the governments itself . it's really sad .
    I didn't opened my eyes to this world as a gay, but with the passage of time i started to find out that I am gay and what is the fault in that?!
    I think that if you are gay or normal it doesn't matter because we all humans and we belong to this blessed earth ! , why did they do all this to us? icon_sad.gif
    sometimes when am browsing Gay networking sites, i didn't use a real address coz I'm afraid that someone may know me and I exposing my life to danger and maybe i'll be killed! and am always used to change my address coz i'm afraid of militias and killers !
    Even if i know someone who is gay in my country through networking sites this seeth I'm also afraid or the person who knew him because of our life icon_sad.gif
    often envy some gays outside my country because they live their lives they have normal rights and have things they do icon_sad.gif , but it seems this is the fact of the matter must be on the former Deal!
    any way I wish to all the ppl beautiful life and especially homosexuals, and i wish for them a life without annoying stuff and inconvenience icon_smile.gif
    Sorry for going on but sometimes I need to talk and share my feelings icon_sad.gif
    Peace

    Wow that sounds like a terrible situation to be in? Are you planning on leaving that country?


    yeah dude in fact I thought about it but there is no way icon_sad.gif


    Never say never. Why is it so impossible? Money?


    not just money visa procedure and many things
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 18, 2013 8:56 AM GMT
    SKM2 saidif u can, RELOCATE, even though this is not easy, u have to find courage to leave the situation u are facing. Be safe man and goodluck


    i wish if i can but icon_sad.gif
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 18, 2013 8:56 AM GMT
    Behemothboi saidIs it just the culture? I remember trying to date a guy of middle eastern decent and he Saud his family would literally kill him and me too f they found out.. some kinda mob shit


    yeah true dude this also shity impasse
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 18, 2013 8:59 AM GMT
    boorangOz saidHi man I know its difficult in your country, one thing may be to look into moving to the UAE, I had many gay friends from Iraq when I lived there.
    Now I know its still a crime to gay in the UAE however its a little easier there and much easier to move on from the UAE to a western country.


    maybe it is easier to move there but it's Impossible to live a normal life there UAE is a closed country
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 18, 2013 9:00 AM GMT
    Jaggal saidI heard all the stories.... Iraq is so fucked up right now.


    unfortunately icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 18, 2013 9:25 AM GMT
    There are many people like you who are having very hard time living in their respective countries with fear, oppression, discrimination, humiliation, punishments etc...
    Our b&s of LGBT people/community who are living in countries like Russia, Uganda, Middle east nations and some 50 or more countries where Homosexuality is considered illegal and which can put us in prison and sadly in some nations as we all know, it is punishable by death are constantly facing these threats. Threats towards their security, their life from extremists,and even more sadly from friends and family.

    Though I vaguely feel how you people are dealing with it, It's obvious to me that my sympathies are not the solutions to your problems, but they are very helpful in coping and dealing the problems..

    One thing I observed in these nations is that they behave like an angry dog whenever they see a homosexual or hear the word 'gay', etc. We cannot control an angry dog, it only bites us more....not to mention it's impossible to control when there are more number of angry dogs than we physically can control.

    The only thing I can see is to deal evil with good, with compassion and fighting ignorance with knowledge whenever there is possible. I know that it may be strange/extreme for some of you to read this but I can see no other possible solution, especially when you can't leave your place of living. Just like we will try to stay away from an angry dog until he calms down and then slowly, with careful steps will tame him and befriend him...similarly we have to deal with these homophobic people. I know it takes a lot of time, sometimes even decades or even generations, but it's the best way I can think of on how to deal with them, at least for now. Moral education is the key to our freedom.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 18, 2013 12:42 PM GMT
    Well thanks for sharing your story! Very sad. I too, thought Greece was a little more progressive. My wish is that things change and you can realize a real happiness, either there or in some other country that might seem a little more welcoming to you. Best wishes!

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    Oct 18, 2013 3:55 PM GMT
    Sadness_ said :

    not just money visa procedure and many things



    Can't you get asylum in the U.S , you country is still considered in war-time ..

    or

    With same sex marriage now recognized in most of U.S states you could find someone to marry and get your visa .
    Also in Australia , we have a visa called "de facto" that will allow same sex partner to sponsor their loved one .
    Both solutions might be of help for you .
    Good luck mate .
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    Oct 18, 2013 9:05 PM GMT
    Try this:

    https://www.dvlottery.state.gov/

    It is a long shot, but you never know.
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 19, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
    Harry7785 saidThere are many people like you who are having very hard time living in their respective countries with fear, oppression, discrimination, humiliation, punishments etc...
    Our b&s of LGBT people/community who are living in countries like Russia, Uganda, Middle east nations and some 50 or more countries where Homosexuality is considered illegal and which can put us in prison and sadly in some nations as we all know, it is punishable by death are constantly facing these threats. Threats towards their security, their life from extremists,and even more sadly from friends and family.

    Though I vaguely feel how you people are dealing with it, It's obvious to me that my sympathies are not the solutions to your problems, but they are very helpful in coping and dealing the problems..

    One thing I observed in these nations is that they behave like an angry dog whenever they see a homosexual or hear the word 'gay', etc. We cannot control an angry dog, it only bites us more....not to mention it's impossible to control when there are more number of angry dogs than we physically can control.

    The only thing I can see is to deal evil with good, with compassion and fighting ignorance with knowledge whenever there is possible. I know that it may be strange/extreme for some of you to read this but I can see no other possible solution, especially when you can't leave your place of living. Just like we will try to stay away from an angry dog until he calms down and then slowly, with careful steps will tame him and befriend him...similarly we have to deal with these homophobic people. I know it takes a lot of time, sometimes even decades or even generations, but it's the best way I can think of on how to deal with them, at least for now. Moral education is the key to our freedom.



    thank you so much for your comment and really i appreciate it
    any way we already do that with those angry fuckin dogs!
    and we don't know how long we will stay under these situation
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 19, 2013 9:10 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidWell thanks for sharing your story! Very sad. I too, thought Greece was a little more progressive. My wish is that things change and you can realize a real happiness, either there or in some other country that might seem a little more welcoming to you. Best wishes!

    icon_biggrin.gif


    thanks dude but I already mentioned that is not my real location i'm not in Greece
    thank you again
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 19, 2013 9:27 PM GMT
    neffa saidSadness_ said :

    not just money visa procedure and many things



    Can't you get asylum in the U.S , you country is still considered in war-time ..

    or

    With same sex marriage now recognized in most of U.S states you could find someone to marry and get your visa .
    Also in Australia , we have a visa called "de facto" that will allow same sex partner to sponsor their loved one .
    Both solutions might be of help for you .
    Good luck mate .


    thanks mate i will check it out
  • Sadness_

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    Oct 19, 2013 9:27 PM GMT
    MisterOrally saidTry this:

    https://www.dvlottery.state.gov/

    It is a long shot, but you never know.

    i will icon_sad.gif
    thanks