Idaho Republican candidate opposes Medicaid but has 10 kids on Medicaid.

  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 19, 2013 7:51 PM GMT
    Another GOP leader to rally around!

    A Tea Party candidate for Idaho's House of Representatives defended himself against allegations of hypocrisy following an NBC News article in which he admitted to signing his entire family up for Medicaid while running on a platform that calls for the dismantling of all government programs.

    "I don’t think that the government should be involved in health care or health insurance," Greg Collett, 41, of Caldwell told NBC News earlier this month.

    Collett, a self-employed software developer by trade, went on to note that his ten children — two biological, eight adopted — are all recipients of health insurance through the government's Medicaid program, and acknowledged that "there are a lot of people out there that’ll cry foul" over the dissonance.

    Or, as Opposing Views helpfully summarizes: "[I]t is okay to take part in programs one opposes as long as one does not 'support' those programs."

    It's worth mentioning that, when it comes to "government-funded public schools," Collett is a man of his nonsensical word: All of his kids are homeschooled. He considers public schools a "form of welfare."

    http://gawker.com/tea-party-republican-defends-being-on-medicaid-while-op-1446552792
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    Oct 19, 2013 7:57 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidGreat, that means his children will grow up to be morons. I hope he's proud.


    shit, more mormons
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    Oct 19, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
    He's consistent with Idaho's interpretation of "self reliance".

    Idaho receives $1.21 from the federal gov't for each dollar it pays in.
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    Oct 19, 2013 8:24 PM GMT
    tothepoint saidHe's consistent with Idaho's interpretation of "self reliance".

    Idaho receives $1.21 from the federal gov't for each dollar it pays in.


    How 'bout your state of Florida, TM?
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 19, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    This is the kind of selfish Republican who wouldn't think twice about voting to abolish Medicaid once he's in office and no longer has to rely on the program. If it doesn't negatively affect him, why should he care about all the people who do get hurt?
    It's the same justifications the Republicans in Congress use to explain their opposition to Obamacare -- even though they are ALL getting government-funded health care.
  • musclmed

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    Oct 19, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    well it is certainly laughable he adopted 8 children.

    However his explanation seems incoherent.

    In many instances especially in cases of adoption the children have existing health benefits and disability that come along with the child. Because they are wards of the state before adoption. I have no idea if that is the case in this situation.

    One can be against a law , regulation or ideal and still benefit from law if it is currently in place.

    I certainly do not disagree with the concept of the government and a social safety network. Just how the government goes about it.

    What would be cheaper? if the state implemented a healthcare system? or simply stayed out of the way and did not tax money spent on a persons health?

    Last although it maybe noteworthy to inspect this rather obscure utah representative, one ignores the huge hypocrisy in National politics. Washinton DC's power elite has exempted themselves from the ACA through an administrative trick outside of what it is in the plain language of the law.

    When there are opportunities to point out individual hypocrisy on the left you do not really have to dig deep to the local representative level.

    As for opposition to Obamacare? this logical fallacy that a elected representative has to vote for a law it disagrees with is an interesting argument and food for the naive.
  • tazzari

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    Oct 19, 2013 8:59 PM GMT
    Ever since they cut public funding for mental institutions, people like this have been getting out. It was inevitable that they'd start getting into politics.
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    Oct 20, 2013 12:29 AM GMT
    Don't recipients of Medicaid have to pass a financial needs test? Meaning this father of 10 kids isn't making enough money to support 10 kids.

    But instead of working harder to earn enough to support those kids, he has time to campaign for the Idaho state house? Which I doubt pays very much. Or if it does, added to what he makes as a "self-employed software developer", will that get his kids off Medicaid, at a savings to taxpayers?

    Maybe that's the noble reason why he's running for public office, for the money? I hope his opponent labels him a "Welfare Dad" during the campaign. But of course if Collett is from a safe, gerrymandered Republican district he can't lose. Right Wingers would vote for a convicted serial killer if he has an (R) after his last name.
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    Oct 20, 2013 12:33 AM GMT
    ART_DECO saidDon't recipients of Medicaid have to pass a financial needs test? Meaning this father of 10 kids isn't making enough money to support 10 kids.

    But instead of working harder to earn enough to support those kids, he has time to campaign for the Idaho state house? Which I doubt pays very much. Or if it does, added to what he makes as a "self-employed software developer", will that get his kids off Medicaid, at a savings to taxpayers?

    Maybe that's the noble reason why he's running for public office, for the money? I hope his opponent labels him a "Welfare Dad" during the campaign. But of course if Collett is from a safe, gerrymandered Republican district he can't lose. Right Wingers would vote for a convicted serial killer if he has an (R) after his last name.


    I am not 100% certain but I believe some have medicaid through there disabilities. We dont have enough information about his children.
    Eight of his children are adopted, he explains, and seven are from the foster care system.
    Meaning before they were adopted the were likely state wards and were adopted. Those benefits come with them.

    He home schools them all.

    His explanation was kinda strange. But he took 8 kids out of the "system" figure out how much that would cost the government. I think he has nothing to be ashamed of.

    Meanwhile while we troll over a idaho state representative candidate. Charlie Rangel sits on the Ways and Means committee after bilking the government for decades out of section 8 housing, 2 apartments linked together to make a mcmansion.

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    Oct 20, 2013 12:45 AM GMT
    musclmed said
    I am not 100% certain but I believe some have medicaid through there disabilities. We dont have enough information about his children.

    Meaning before they were adopted the were likely state wards and were adopted. Those benefits come with them.

    ...I think he has nothing to be ashamed of.

    From Collett's own website:

    In my case, 7 of my 8 adopted children receive Medicaid because they came from the foster care system. My other 3 children qualify based on the financial rules.

    He says nothing about disabilities.

    Here are some other interesting ideas he has on his site:

    I am against marriage licenses... I am against the foster care program... I am against property taxes... I am against federal ownership of land by the Forest Service and BLM... I am against national parks... I am against driver's licenses, vehicle registration, license plates, and mandated liability insurance... I am against public funding of transportation systems... I am against building permits, fees, and inspections... I am against public libraries... I am against public schools... I am against occupational licensing... I am against USDA inspections...

    I can see why you'd be impressed by such a candidate. icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://www.gregcollettforidaho.com/nbc-news-article
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    Oct 20, 2013 1:00 AM GMT
    The mountain west tends to have a lot of less than sane politicians. Idaho produced Helen Chenoweth, who was tea party before it had a name, although she was nowhere near as extreme as this guy.
  • musclmed

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    Oct 20, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    musclmed said
    I am not 100% certain but I believe some have medicaid through there disabilities. We dont have enough information about his children.

    Meaning before they were adopted the were likely state wards and were adopted. Those benefits come with them.

    ...I think he has nothing to be ashamed of.

    From Collett's own website:

    In my case, 7 of my 8 adopted children receive Medicaid because they came from the foster care system. My other 3 children qualify based on the financial rules.

    He says nothing about disabilities.

    Here are some other interesting ideas he has on his site:

    I am against marriage licenses... I am against the foster care program... I am against property taxes... I am against federal ownership of land by the Forest Service and BLM... I am against national parks... I am against driver's licenses, vehicle registration, license plates, and mandated liability insurance... I am against public funding of transportation systems... I am against building permits, fees, and inspections... I am against public libraries... I am against public schools... I am against occupational licensing... I am against USDA inspections...

    I can see why you'd be impressed by such a candidate. icon_rolleyes.gif

    http://www.gregcollettforidaho.com/nbc-news-article


    See Art again you superimpose some other conversation onto me. I never said I was impressed with him.

    merely that he adopted foster children . And in many states when you adopt someone through the foster system they can receive benefits including Medicaid.

    That situation is a bit different than just have 2.3 kids on Medicaid of his own.

    And I can really give a .... what he believes. I dont think he is particularly representative especially when he is running for some obscure state representative seat.