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    Oct 20, 2013 6:41 AM GMT
    I think I'm developing a hatred towards straight people..I've never felt this way before..but now I feel like yes they tolerate homosexuals(most of them I meet anyway) but I feel that deep inside they look down on homosexuals .. like we are some sort of lower class of people.. which is far from true.
    I know hatred shouldn't be born of hatred but I don't know how to feel about this anymore
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    Oct 20, 2013 6:55 AM GMT
    I get you, i really do......... But we must thank straight people, for doing something right, by giving birth to wonderful gay communities.
  • AMoonHawk

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    Oct 20, 2013 6:59 AM GMT
    hmmm ... society in general sucks ... so I try not to think about that big pic and just accept people as they come and go from my life ... without judgements ... after all ... that's the way I would want to be treated
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    Oct 20, 2013 7:02 AM GMT
    There are people who disown there kids for being gay. They kill people for being gay..the first thing you should notice about someone should not be gay or straight
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    Oct 20, 2013 7:05 AM GMT
    As long as humans are subjective and uneducated, we always are and always will be judgmental...It's our instinctive nature. Everyone has to overcome this.

    Few days ago I started a thread about Asexuals, To find out gay people's attitude towards them, and as I guessed, couple of guys still think it's a disease. I don't say that they are Asexual-phobic, but it's due to lack of awareness and familiarity.

    Just be yourself and ignore other people's judgements, in time, once they get to know about us, they'll change their attitudes.
  • MikeW

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    Oct 20, 2013 7:41 AM GMT
    Well, that's sexist.

    I just hate stupid people, I don't give a damn what their sexual preference is.
  • BloodFlame

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    Oct 20, 2013 8:49 AM GMT
    I can understand what you are saying. But I personally try to keep perspective and not hate. Nothing good ever comes from it.

    Just try to keep perspective and remember not all straight people feel negative towards gay people. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 20, 2013 9:58 AM GMT
    well i get your frustration, i really do. But that is the world we live in. Take for example african cultures before colonisation, based on the studies done, it is evident that gay people existed before colonisation. Women were allowed to take wifes in some of the countries, some men had male partners on the side. But as things are now, u wouldnt even dare bring such a thing up. It just a fucked up situation. But we have to make the best of what we got and change what we can.
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    Oct 20, 2013 10:08 AM GMT
    If you've been oppressed or discriminated against by straight people or live in a sexist or bigoted environment, it's completely understandable that you will feel this way. It's okay to feel like this - it is why so many gay guys enter the "gay bubble". Because they feel Shame for who they are.

    What I suggest is that you see a counsellor or someone to talk through your feelings. It could be that your feelings are a projection of your own self hatred because you feel you don't measure up. You are who you are and you are totally acceptable as a gay man.

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    Oct 20, 2013 10:50 AM GMT
    By making a blanket judgment against people who do the same to you, you lower yourself to their level.

    Every one of us was raised in a homophobic world. Try to remember that before "hating" those who don't have to suffer the consequences. Most people will at least temper their attitude problem when you're around, if they're any kind of friends. In more cases than you think they'll make a real effort to unlearn their ignorance. And if they don't do either, then the hell with 'em. icon_smile.gif

    Resentment, though, is completely understandable. The glorification of marriage when it's out of reach to the large majority of us...their "flaunting it" everywhere you turn while condemning the slightest hint of that behavior on our part...the casual jokes, remarks, use of "gay" as a put-down...the damaging prejudices...on and on it goes. All you can do is concentrate on taking care of yourself and trying to "forgive them, for they know not what they do."
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    Oct 20, 2013 11:23 AM GMT
    Generally speaking, I agree with you. Even the supporters of gay rights, both in real life and on television, will slip now and then and make a derisive joke about gays. But then again why should they not secretly look down on us with the great amount of disrespect we show each other right here?
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    Oct 20, 2013 11:44 AM GMT
    Behemothboi saidI think I'm developing a hatred towards straight people..I've never felt this way before..but now I feel like yes they tolerate homosexuals(most of them I meet anyway) but I feel that deep inside they look down on homosexuals .. like we are some sort of lower class of people.. which is far from true.
    I know hatred shouldn't be born of hatred but I don't know how to feel about this anymore


    lol duh... cj7.gif
  • jo2hotbod

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    Oct 20, 2013 12:33 PM GMT
    Behemothboi saidThere are people who disown there kids for being gay. They kill people for being gay..the first thing you should notice about someone should not be gay or straight


    Some of the examples are the extreme cases and not the majority. Every class, group, race, sex, religion, whatever classification you want to cite will have those extremists that go way too far, but those extremists do not define the feelings or represent the sentiments that overall classification and one should not categorically attribute the sentiments of one jack ass to the group as a whole.
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    Oct 20, 2013 2:59 PM GMT
    Are you sure this hatred is not coming from your own insecurities?


    I only ask because I noticed on certain threads(why im glad to be gay or similar) Some people would say they like being gay because they are more(open minded, stronger, better)than straight men and I always wonder if they're trying to overcompensate for the stereotypes cast upon the gay community.
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    Oct 20, 2013 3:35 PM GMT
    well, some of them will think that way because its only normal to fear what you dont know, so yeah they say they're cool with the LGTB thing but deep inside we freak them out. But not all straight people act that way. Maybe it depends on the country/city you live. Like, people around here are very open minded, Ive been out for a couple years now and Ive never felt any kind of rejection.
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    Oct 20, 2013 4:36 PM GMT
    If we hate straight people we are no better than them.
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    Oct 20, 2013 5:39 PM GMT
    Behemothboi saidI think I'm developing a hatred towards straight people..I've never felt this way before..but now I feel like yes they tolerate homosexuals(most of them I meet anyway) but I feel that deep inside they look down on homosexuals .. like we are some sort of lower class of people.. which is far from true.
    I know hatred shouldn't be born of hatred but I don't know how to feel about this anymore


    Well, that's not true. Many straight poeple love gays. But those you're talking about are probably not very familiar with gays and they only have things like "Pride Festivals" to go by. And well, if that's all they have to shape their opinions of gay people then you can't blame them. Because Pride is every gay stereotype and more.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 20, 2013 5:46 PM GMT
    FutureBanana saidIf we hate straight people we are no better than them.

    Well, while you take the high road, I'm gonna egg their cars. icon_twisted.gif
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    Oct 20, 2013 5:47 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    FutureBanana saidIf we hate straight people we are no better than them.

    Well, while you take the high road, I'm gonna egg their cars. icon_twisted.gif


    You can egg those who hate us... Those who love us we can give them a hug.
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    Oct 20, 2013 6:20 PM GMT
    For as long as there are str8s, for practical purposes (or at least until we can test-tube birth ourselves--so their superiority with regard to propagation of the species is merely a lack of science) required for there to be gays, as long as remains in the human psyche ego (more often over inflated but likely required none the less in some degree to experience the self as an individual) there will be posturing and homophobia.

    Just as there will be people who don't like your beard or your voice or your tattoos. So it seems that no matter under which security blanket we try to find comfort, adversity finds us. Lovers betray, friends abandon, family disappoints, often we don't live up to our own expectations of ourselves. Where is peace?
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    Oct 20, 2013 6:35 PM GMT
    I don't hate groups of people, I only dislike bigots and idiots, but never hate. You can't blame all straight people for the actions of some.
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    Oct 20, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
    I agree somewhat. What is with them saying ' Oh, are you gay"? Do we say 'oh are you straight'?? Frankly its just rude, and none of their fucking business who I fuck!! Why do straight people think they can say or ask that.. icon_rolleyes.gif

    being gay does not define a person, well not to me anyway.
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    Oct 20, 2013 7:33 PM GMT
    It might also be more of a problem depending on where you live. Where I am, in the San Francisco bay area, being gay isn't an issue or worthy of comment for the overwhelming majority of straight people.
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    Oct 20, 2013 8:42 PM GMT
    Oh great,I always want set str8 people's house on fire!!
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    Oct 22, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    This was spawned by seeing some terrible act performed to.another gay couple in another country.. just really pissed me off