Do you like or hate the Dan Savage Sex Talk Show?

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    Oct 23, 2013 6:16 PM GMT
    I like the subjects he brings up mostly, but I found that I just want to delete his podcasts.
  • Bunjamon

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    Oct 23, 2013 11:31 PM GMT
    You mean "Savage Love," Dan Savage's sex and relationship advice podcast?

    I like him, I think he's an entertaining guy. I think the topics are pretty monotonous, though, since humans have been having sex forEVER and you can only talk about how it all works so many times. Still, he's funny, and I like to read his column, too. (http://www.thestranger.com/savage)
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    Oct 24, 2013 5:39 AM GMT
    Never seen it, but will have to look it up.
  • metta

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    Oct 25, 2013 7:46 PM GMT
    I found it a bit boring listening to women whine about their relationships.

    I like:

    Feast of Fun
    Ted Talks
    This American Life
    The Moth
  • ScandalFan

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    Oct 25, 2013 8:16 PM GMT
    I like him a lot. He puts out a valuable message I think. There's an App for iPhones called Savage Love.
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    Oct 25, 2013 8:36 PM GMT
    I think his ability to talk openly about sex in such a screwed up society is a good thing, but I think he comes off as kind of a sleaze bag. So, good strong healthy message, terrible disgusting creepy messenger.
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    Oct 25, 2013 9:26 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidI think his ability to talk openly about sex in such a screwed up society is a good thing, but I think he comes off as kind of a sleaze bag. So, good strong healthy message, terrible disgusting creepy messenger.


    True That..
    He does come off as premium ..Center For Disease Control research material.. icon_sad.gif
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    Oct 25, 2013 11:35 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidI think his ability to talk openly about sex in such a screwed up society is a good thing, but I think he comes off as kind of a sleaze bag. So, good strong healthy message, terrible disgusting creepy messenger.


    Well put. I didn't want to offend anyone but this is I guess how Dan Savage comes off. I deleted his podcasts. I get turned off.
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    Oct 25, 2013 11:54 PM GMT
    Dan Savage is hot (his husband even more so), and I agree that society shouldn't be afraid to talk about sex. However, he isn't the right guy to start that conversation. The guy thinks it's okay to cheat on your spouse for Christ's sake.
  • starboard5

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    Oct 26, 2013 4:23 AM GMT
    libertpaulian saidDan Savage is hot (his husband even more so), and I agree that society shouldn't be afraid to talk about sex. However, he isn't the right guy to start that conversation. The guy thinks it's okay to cheat on your spouse for Christ's sake.


    I'm not his biggest fan but in his defense, I have to correct you. In no way does he advocate cheating on your spouse. He supports open relationships as a realistic option for gays and straights who are not comfortable with monogamy. Some (many-most) people are not going to be monogamous, and he believes it's better to have an open relationship and be honest about it than to cheat.
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    Oct 26, 2013 1:36 PM GMT
    Aristoshark saidCan we not change the subject, which is that I'd love to fuck him?


    With what, a strap-on?? Your nose?? icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 26, 2013 5:27 PM GMT
    starboard5 said
    libertpaulian saidDan Savage is hot (his husband even more so), and I agree that society shouldn't be afraid to talk about sex. However, he isn't the right guy to start that conversation. The guy thinks it's okay to cheat on your spouse for Christ's sake.


    I'm not his biggest fan but in his defense, I have to correct you. In no way does he advocate cheating on your spouse. He supports open relationships as a realistic option for gays and straights who are not comfortable with monogamy. Some (many-most) people are not going to be monogamous, and he believes it's better to have an open relationship and be honest about it than to cheat.

    Well, I don't condone open relationships, but if that's your cup of tea...

    Thanks for the correction, BTW.
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    Oct 26, 2013 5:50 PM GMT
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    smartmoney saidI think his ability to talk openly about sex in such a screwed up society is a good thing, but I think he comes off as kind of a sleaze bag. So, good strong healthy message, terrible disgusting creepy messenger.


    Well put. I didn't want to offend anyone but this is I guess how Dan Savage comes off. I deleted his podcasts. I get turned off.


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  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 26, 2013 6:09 PM GMT
    starboard5 said
    libertpaulian saidDan Savage is hot (his husband even more so), and I agree that society shouldn't be afraid to talk about sex. However, he isn't the right guy to start that conversation. The guy thinks it's okay to cheat on your spouse for Christ's sake.


    I'm not his biggest fan but in his defense, I have to correct you. In no way does he advocate cheating on your spouse. He supports open relationships as a realistic option for gays and straights who are not comfortable with monogamy. Some (many-most) people are not going to be monogamous, and he believes it's better to have an open relationship and be honest about it than to cheat.


    I agree with Savage. Our society has adopted a "one-size-fits-all" mentality about relationships. When you commit to someone, you're never attracted to anyone else for the rest of your life, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
    Wrong. Real life is not a chick flick, and men are wired the way they're wired. It's time for Americans to grow up and accept that monogamy works for some people, but doesn't work for many. How many marriages are destroyed because people -- straight women, mostly -- hang onto the myth of monogamy?
  • madsexy

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    Oct 26, 2013 6:27 PM GMT
    KissTheSky said
    starboard5 said
    libertpaulian saidDan Savage is hot (his husband even more so), and I agree that society shouldn't be afraid to talk about sex. However, he isn't the right guy to start that conversation. The guy thinks it's okay to cheat on your spouse for Christ's sake.


    I'm not his biggest fan but in his defense, I have to correct you. In no way does he advocate cheating on your spouse. He supports open relationships as a realistic option for gays and straights who are not comfortable with monogamy. Some (many-most) people are not going to be monogamous, and he believes it's better to have an open relationship and be honest about it than to cheat.


    I agree with Savage. Our society has adopted a "one-size-fits-all" mentality about relationships. When you commit to someone, you're never attracted to anyone else for the rest of your life, right? icon_rolleyes.gif
    Wrong. Real life is not a chick flick, and men are wired the way they're wired. It's time for Americans to grow up and accept that monogamy works for some people, but doesn't work for many. How many marriages are destroyed because people -- straight women, mostly -- hang onto the myth of monogamy?

    Monogamy isn't a myth. As you pointed out in your opening, it isn't the standard or the norm, but it's certainly no myth. I personally know plenty of long-term male gay couples who are totally monogamous. Likewise I know many who aren't. It depends on the individuals, the nature of their relationship and the nature of their commitment. But monogamy is far from a myth.

    In my readings/watchings of Dan Savage, it seems he chooses to be completely anti-monogamy. While he is free to speak for his own relationship, in my opinion his espousal of that position, contrary to evidence, makes him a less-than-desirable source for much of anything except entertainment, along the Rush Limbaugh line of entertainment.
  • KissTheSky

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    Oct 26, 2013 6:46 PM GMT
    The myth is that every successful relationship is monogamous. (Far from it.)
    The myth-- spoon-fed to little girls by Hollywood and cheesy romance novels -- is that if your partner ever has a sexual experience with anyone else, it means he doesn't really love you, so you should demand a divorce.

    The reality:
    I know many couples, straight and gay, who are monogamous and happy.
    I know many couples, straight and gay, who are in open relationships, and they are also happy.

    Savage has repeatedly said that he supports couples' choices to be monogamous or not, but he wants them to be able to have the choice, and not let our society's sex-negativity culture take away people's choices.
  • slimnmuscly

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    Oct 26, 2013 7:02 PM GMT
    madsexy said
    KissTheSky said
    starboard5 said

    Monogamy isn't a myth. As you pointed out in your opening, it isn't the standard or the norm, but it's certainly no myth. I personally know plenty of long-term male gay couples who are totally monogamous. Likewise I know many who aren't. It depends on the individuals, the nature of their relationship and the nature of their commitment. But monogamy is far from a myth.

    In my readings/watchings of Dan Savage, it seems he chooses to be completely anti-monogamy. While he is free to speak for his own relationship, in my opinion his espousal of that position, contrary to evidence, makes him a less-than-desirable source for much of anything except entertainment, along the Rush Limbaugh line of entertainment.


    Actually, Savage has pointed to mountains of evidence supporting his view that humans are poorly wired for monogamy. By contrast, while you may personally know "plenty" of long-term male gay couples who claim to be totally monogamous, unless you're wiretapping their phones, you have no evidence that a) they're telling you the truth, b) they're telling each other the truth, c) their "completely monogamous" status hasn't changed since the last time they updated you on the situation.

    Anyway, it's not that Savage is "completely anti-monogamy" -- rather, his main point is that couples who otherwise have a lot going for them shouldn't break up over occasional lapses in monogamy. (E.g., if you've been with someone for years and years and he only cheated on you once, he wasn't bad at monogamy, he was good at it. Also, Savage rightly encourages couples in open or "monogamish" relationships to share their success stories as openly as your "completely monogamous" friends do.
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    Oct 26, 2013 7:15 PM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    Blakes7 said
    Aristoshark saidCan we not change the subject, which is that I'd love to fuck him?


    With what, a strap-on?? Your nose?? icon_wink.gif

    At least I can find my penis. Mine isn't buried under huge rolls of fat like yours.


    Not anymore...icon_wink.gif

    And, wouldn't you need like a whole bottle of Viagra, Cialis AND Levitra??? Plus all those supplements they keep advertising on the radio??
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    Oct 26, 2013 7:15 PM GMT
    You could always use a sling to hold it up.
  • FredMG

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    Oct 26, 2013 7:33 PM GMT
    bradomo saidI like the subjects he brings up mostly, but I found that I just want to delete his podcasts.


    As a quantum step forward, how about not downloading or unsubscribing from the podcast?

    Personally, I won't unsubscribe, I think Dan Savage's podcast is hilarious.
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    Oct 26, 2013 8:25 PM GMT
    FredPDX said
    bradomo saidI like the subjects he brings up mostly, but I found that I just want to delete his podcasts.


    As a quantum step forward, how about not downloading or unsubscribing from the podcast?

    Personally, I won't unsubscribe, I think Dan Savage's podcast is hilarious.

    Don't get me wrong, Savage can be entertaining at times. He can be like the sexpert version of Seth MacFarlane. But then he has his other moments, such as his vile hatred for religious people.
  • madsexy

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    Oct 27, 2013 7:00 PM GMT
    slimnmuscly said
    madsexy said
    KissTheSky said
    starboard5 said

    Monogamy isn't a myth. As you pointed out in your opening, it isn't the standard or the norm, but it's certainly no myth. I personally know plenty of long-term male gay couples who are totally monogamous. Likewise I know many who aren't. It depends on the individuals, the nature of their relationship and the nature of their commitment. But monogamy is far from a myth.

    In my readings/watchings of Dan Savage, it seems he chooses to be completely anti-monogamy. While he is free to speak for his own relationship, in my opinion his espousal of that position, contrary to evidence, makes him a less-than-desirable source for much of anything except entertainment, along the Rush Limbaugh line of entertainment.


    Actually, Savage has pointed to mountains of evidence supporting his view that humans are poorly wired for monogamy. By contrast, while you may personally know "plenty" of long-term male gay couples who claim to be totally monogamous, unless you're wiretapping their phones, you have no evidence that a) they're telling you the truth, b) they're telling each other the truth, c) their "completely monogamous" status hasn't changed since the last time they updated you on the situation.

    Anyway, it's not that Savage is "completely anti-monogamy" -- rather, his main point is that couples who otherwise have a lot going for them shouldn't break up over occasional lapses in monogamy. (E.g., if you've been with someone for years and years and he only cheated on you once, he wasn't bad at monogamy, he was good at it. Also, Savage rightly encourages couples in open or "monogamish" relationships to share their success stories as openly as your "completely monogamous" friends do.

    To suggest that everyone or most who claim monogamy are lying is ludicrous. The argument is undoubtedly self-serving and a ready excuse for aversion to commit or a banked get-out-of-jail-free card for a future failure to honor the commitment which was made. The only 'evidence' is facts which show men don't honor commitments of fidelity. Using that evidence we should legalize all crimes because they're unavoidable based on the evidence that humans commit them.

    No, Savage has proved he's just a dilettante, I'll-qualified to give advice in the manner he does, a gay version of Dr. Laura or Dr. Phil.
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    Oct 27, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    slimnmuscly said
    madsexy said
    KissTheSky said
    starboard5 said

    Monogamy isn't a myth. As you pointed out in your opening, it isn't the standard or the norm, but it's certainly no myth. I personally know plenty of long-term male gay couples who are totally monogamous. Likewise I know many who aren't. It depends on the individuals, the nature of their relationship and the nature of their commitment. But monogamy is far from a myth.

    In my readings/watchings of Dan Savage, it seems he chooses to be completely anti-monogamy. While he is free to speak for his own relationship, in my opinion his espousal of that position, contrary to evidence, makes him a less-than-desirable source for much of anything except entertainment, along the Rush Limbaugh line of entertainment.


    Actually, Savage has pointed to mountains of evidence supporting his view that humans are poorly wired for monogamy. By contrast, while you may personally know "plenty" of long-term male gay couples who claim to be totally monogamous, unless you're wiretapping their phones, you have no evidence that a) they're telling you the truth, b) they're telling each other the truth, c) their "completely monogamous" status hasn't changed since the last time they updated you on the situation.

    Anyway, it's not that Savage is "completely anti-monogamy" -- rather, his main point is that couples who otherwise have a lot going for them shouldn't break up over occasional lapses in monogamy. (E.g., if you've been with someone for years and years and he only cheated on you once, he wasn't bad at monogamy, he was good at it. Also, Savage rightly encourages couples in open or "monogamish" relationships to share their success stories as openly as your "completely monogamous" friends do.


    Maybe i am just really open minded and people tell me things they don't tell others. I just don't see where non monogamous couples are afraid to talk about not being monogamous. i don't believe in monogamish you are either monogamous or not. Sure people in open relationships are not one monolithic group. No relationship s exactly like another so there is no need to break open relationships up into different categories. If anything the absurd idea of kind of being monogamous makes it seem like monogamy is the ideal and it shouldn't be. I actually prefer monogamy but i feel like savage preaches about open relationships as if they are something new. Please, people have been swinging with their partners permission for centuries if not longer.