This pisses me off. . . Genetic testing for sports on children

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    Nov 30, 2008 10:00 PM GMT
    ok this is too far, let kids live and figure out what they are good at and what they aren't on their own. what do y'all think?


    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/30/sports/30genetics.html?no_interstitial


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    Nov 30, 2008 10:14 PM GMT

    CONFORM!


    RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!



  • Sayrnas

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    Nov 30, 2008 10:48 PM GMT
    Borg reference!!!!
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    Nov 30, 2008 11:08 PM GMT
    It's ridiculous! icon_rolleyes.gif Don't people have better uses of their time and money? If not, they should take a look at the world around them - there's a lot of work to do out there.
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    Nov 30, 2008 11:11 PM GMT
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    If they had tested me at a young age I never would have seen the inside of a gymnasium!

    Genetic testing has the potential for creating a whole bunch of mischief in the future.
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    Nov 30, 2008 11:50 PM GMT
    Meh, civilisation will have collapsed by then.

    They should just have kids playing Fallout 3 and watching Mad Max, so that they know what to do when it happens.
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:12 AM GMT
    How about parents spend time getting to know their kids and what they are interested in?
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:20 AM GMT
    Wow...seems like the foundation of a Brave New World sort of society. icon_sad.gificon_eek.gif
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:22 AM GMT
    um because so many gays say its natural to be gay (which it is)

    they are trying to find the gene so that parents can make their kids str8 if
    the "gay gene" is real

    what do you think of that?
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:38 AM GMT
    i think if they succeeded society would grind to a halt. who would be the designers? artisans? musicians? geniuses? culture would be fucked if gays stopped getting born. then they'd learn their error and turn the gene back on lol.
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:51 AM GMT
    This stuff is ridiculous.

    The moment you start doing stuff like that, you are no longer attempting to become a parent, you just are a producer and are placing quality standards on your child. These people should not be allowed to reproduce.
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    Dec 01, 2008 1:11 AM GMT
    The quote from the mother who said, “I think it would prevent a lot of parental frustration,” speaks volumes. It seems many parents want child-rearing simplified. Because they can't cope with energetic children, some parents get the necessary prescriptions to calm them down. Likewise, some want genetic testing -- to avoid investing the time and patience necessary to help their children discover special talents and abilities. It's all about making life easier for Mommy and Daddy. As a parent, I find such ideas offensive. Raising a child is not easy; they do not come with manuals. They need time, patience, guidance, and love. Genetic testing will not make life easier for adults who lack parenting skills.
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    Dec 01, 2008 1:23 AM GMT
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    Dec 01, 2008 1:24 AM GMT
    The way this fool planet is going, I hope my next set of parents have me aborted when they find out pre-natally that I would prefer to throw a dinner party than throw the perfect touchdown pass.
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    Dec 01, 2008 1:30 AM GMT
    Wasn't there a movie about this? Gattaca?
    What is there to say: The world is competitive. Period.
    I remember reading a "theory" by some scientist who thinks that in the future there will be two "races:" poor, stupid, ugly people and rich, smart, beautiful people. All the pretty people will breed with each other and leave the ugly people to pick from their own ugly ranks of the underworld.
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    Dec 01, 2008 3:29 AM GMT
    Whoever is running these tests stands to make plenty of money off of gullible parents. This sounds like junk science.
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    Dec 01, 2008 3:59 AM GMT


    There's a creepy Twilight Zone about this where parents inject genetic fixes into the womb, except that some kids regress into monsters at age 5!

    Then there's the dystopian vision that's all too possible in the following clip:

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    Dec 01, 2008 4:00 AM GMT
    cowboyathlete saidWhoever is running these tests stands to make plenty of money off of gullible parents. This sounds like junk science.


    No screening would be totally possible. In-vitro and preimplantation genetic diagnosis have made these things possible. It isn't too hard to find markers associated with certain conditions. There is some Kenyan runner with an extra EPO allele or something like that, so it wouldn't be too hard for him to select for a child like him. Screening is very possible.

    Now, giving these kids these traits is a different story.
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    Dec 01, 2008 4:03 AM GMT

    Genetic testing gone wrong:
    Getting pregnant over and over and aborting before the first trimester til the right genetic traits are evident.

    Hitler would have loved it.

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    Dec 01, 2008 4:51 AM GMT
    i've been reading and hearing alot about american parents pushing their children - especially girls - into specializing in one sport, or just a few, at too early an age. it is literally wreaking havoc with their development and creating all sorts of permanent injuries that prevent them from doing anything physical by the time they're 18. boys withstand the specialization better, but not by much.

    but it's easy to see how and why this is happening. kids aren't allowed to go out and play anymore in most suburbs. parents won't just leave a bunch of kids to their own devices to make up some games and just be active. and because of that, parents are trying to make up for it by enrolling their kids in some sort of fun / exercise, but of course it has to be directed, specific - a sport.

    but no kid knows what sports they like at 4 years old. they barely know the names of sports outside ones their parent force upon them. so some crafty lab somewhere comes up with some test like this to help the parents out of their quandry. even though the real (and FREE) answer is just to take their kids to a park and let them play. or to send the kids out into the yard / woods / whatever.

    when we've created such an enclave culture, what else would you expect?
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    Dec 01, 2008 6:58 AM GMT
    muchmorethanmuscle saidHow about direct the funds to do all of this silly testing for more important things like creating ways to alleviate/cure diseases like cancer, diabetes?

    It's ridiculous. And why would it matter? Just because a person is genetically ideal for a sport doesn't mean that this person will actually enjoy the sport.


    um why make a cure for anything when once everyone is cured they cant make money anymore.

    I believe there is a cure for anything, its just not brought out because you can't money on the people that are cured.If there is no cure its constant money till they are dead.

    every wonder why magic johnson look so damn good even though he is poz.
    Its because he had a blood transfusion and doesn't have it anymore. He cant say he doesnt have it because then everyone would want to be cured.

    maybe im just assuming but come on.
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    Jan 04, 2009 8:22 PM GMT
    The science between the impact of this gene is pretty sketchy. My roomate has been tested and is homozygous for the R1 variant but hasn't qualified for the olympics. When it takes 20,000 genes and many more regulatory zones in the genome to make a human being one gene isn't going to be the final say in being an athlete or not.

    That said, some of the new ongoing studies really disturb me. They are looking for the sets of genes that make a good sprinter, endurance runner, wrestler, etc. One of my buddies is working on a paper for this and when I mock him for being on the leading edge of eugenics he glares at me. Society seriously needs to start discussing where we want this technology to go, and how it can best benefit humankind.