Mormon Church And NOM Accused Of Violating Hawaii Election Laws

  • metta

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    Oct 28, 2013 6:58 PM GMT
    Mormon Church And NOM Accused Of Violating Hawaii Election Laws



    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/mormon-church-and-nom-accused-of-violating-hawaii-election-laws/marriage/2013/10/28/77530
  • tazzari

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    Oct 29, 2013 4:10 PM GMT
    Poor Brian Brown and NOM - yet one more setback on their Crusade of Bigotry!
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    Oct 29, 2013 7:56 PM GMT
    Also: Thank You, Fred Karger! icon_smile.gif
  • Cutlass

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    Nov 30, 2013 9:22 AM GMT
    Why is the mormon church still fighting this issue when it appears that most of the states will fall in line in favor of same sex marriages? The polls all indicate that younger voters are in the majority in favor of gays being allowed to marry, while the older voters are more conservative and are against same sex marriages, and they will soon be dying off. I wonder, isn't political lobbying illegal for religious institutions that are tax exempt? But this is no surprise for the mormon church since they will go to the lowest common denominator to try to force their bizarre beliefs on others.
  • metta

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    Nov 30, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    The Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying
  • metta

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    Nov 30, 2013 7:12 PM GMT
    NOM Goes After Fred Karger

    http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2013/11/nom-goes-after-fred-karger.html?m=1
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    Nov 30, 2013 7:31 PM GMT
    metta8 saidThe Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying


    Not back, but still fighting for what they feel as right; just as many do here.
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    Nov 30, 2013 7:45 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    metta8 saidThe Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying

    Not back, but still fighting for what they feel as right; just as many do here.

    Please define what you and "many here" support as being "right" regarding gay marriage & civil rights. And see if for once you can avoid ad hominem attacks on me as being a bisexual in your twisted mind, but try to answer the question which your post raises.

    What exactly is "right" about the Mormon anti-gay position, which you claim many here on RJ support?
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    Dec 01, 2013 12:46 AM GMT
    SlickJock1973 said
    If nobody has said it before here, I don't mind if you are a bisexual. It is nothing to be ashamed about, nor should people attack you for that.

    Save it. I'm not bisexual. But I think you already know that.
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    Dec 03, 2013 7:02 AM GMT
    SlickJock1973 said
    ART_DECO said
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    metta8 saidThe Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying

    Not back, but still fighting for what they feel as right; just as many do here.

    Please define what you and "many here" support as being "right" regarding gay marriage & civil rights. And see if for once you can avoid ad hominem attacks on me as being a bisexual in your twisted mind, but try to answer the question which your post raises.

    What exactly is "right" about the Mormon anti-gay position, which you claim many here on RJ support?


    If nobody has said it before here, I don't mind if you are a bisexual. It is nothing to be ashamed about, nor should people attack you for that.


    Agreed, as one has stated many time before, there is nothing wrong with being a bisexual; it's not not the same as being a Bonafide homosexual. I myself being born a Bonafide Homosexual well know pride in my sexuality; and there's nothing wrong with that either; but also many of the sins of the bisexuals are not ours either. But how Bobby has always loved to attack and bastardize others to boost himself up onto his pedestal, to look down on us; now he's playing the victom; Poor Bobby Boo Boo.icon_rolleyes.gificon_lol.gif What a pisser.
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    Dec 03, 2013 7:14 AM GMT
    ART_DECO said
    SlickJock1973 said
    If nobody has said it before here, I don't mind if you are a bisexual. It is nothing to be ashamed about, nor should people attack you for that.

    Save it. I'm not bisexual. But I think you already know that.


    Prey tell Bobby Boo Boo, and while you were married to your many wives, did you then promote that you were straight, and advocate gay rightsicon_question.gif

    I mean to say it's not like you have never been able to marry; unlike us Bonafide homosexuals.icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 03, 2013 11:51 AM GMT
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    tru_blu_ozzie said
    metta8 saidThe Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying

    Not back, but still fighting for what they feel as right; just as many do here.

    Please define what you and "many here" support as being "right" regarding gay marriage & civil rights. And see if for once you can avoid ad hominem attacks on me as being a bisexual in your twisted mind, but try to answer the question which your post raises.

    What exactly is "right" about the Mormon anti-gay position, which you claim many here on RJ support?


    Dear Bobby Boo Boo. One never said many if any here support the Mormons anti gay position, as you call it. But simply the Mormons are not at it again fighting same sex marriage; but still, as others here fight for what they feel is right too. But not only is your Delusions of grander blinding to you, so is your angry hate. You unlike myself have spent many years in a self loathing state of mind, looking down on us homosexuals as being dirty and you better; seems you still do. Yet I have lived my whole life as a Bonafide homosexual, who had the balls to be out as a wee boy in the 1960s, when you did not have the balls to do the same as a man. Not until much of the hard work was done and you could wave your rainbow flag in safety. In many ways you are no better than the Mormons or conservatives. maybe it's because you feel they look down on you as you spent most of your life looking down on us homosexuals, dear half brother.
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    Dec 03, 2013 10:52 PM GMT
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    Dec 04, 2013 1:11 AM GMT
    I would love to see them lose their exempt organization status and have to pay back taxes.
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    Dec 04, 2013 6:01 AM GMT
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    Yes we know Mitt. HBO got Honey Boo Boo, and we got Bobby Boo Boo.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 04, 2013 1:47 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie said
    Dear Bobby Boo Boo. One never said many if any here support the Mormons anti gay position, as you call it. But simply the Mormons are not at it again fighting same sex marriage; but still, as others here fight for what they feel is right too. But not only is your Delusions of grander blinding to you, so is your angry hate. You unlike myself have spent many years in a self loathing state of mind, looking down on us homosexuals as being dirty and you better; seems you still do. Yet I have lived my whole life as a Bonafide homosexual, who had the balls to be out as a wee boy in the 1960s, when you did not have the balls to do the same as a man. Not until much of the hard work was done and you could wave your rainbow flag in safety. In many ways you are no better than the Mormons or conservatives. maybe it's because you feel they look down on you as you spent most of your life looking down on us homosexuals, dear half brother.

    Dear Bobby Boo Boo? I've heard more inventive & relevant insults between Second Graders in a school playground. But let's see if your own words can snap you back to adult debate:

    tru_blu_ozzie said
    metta8 saidThe Mormon church won't drop its opposition to gay marriage
    Now that Romney is not a factor anymore, the Mormon church is back fighting same-sex marriage. Hawaii was a good example

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/29/mormon-church-gay-marriage-lobbying

    Not back, but still fighting for what they feel as right; just as many do here.

    So it seems "one" DID say that many here are fighting for the Mormon position. Which metta8's link illustrated as being anti-gay marriage. Ahem...

    And you do realize your claim to be the only "bonafide homosexual" is not only laughable, but insulting to others here? Talk about loathing & hatred of others! When you say that guys like me who were confused by their orientation, especially those from my older generation, are bisexuals if we had any sexual contact with women at all?

    Your assertions are not only scientifically false, they are indications of your own delusions of grandeur that you accuse me of having. And inventing scenarios for me out of thin air, about my alleged hatred of homosexuals, and all the other baseless nonsense you spew about me here, are equally delusional.

    Why don't you throw in that my late Mother wore combat boots, too? icon_wink.gif

    (Guys from my generation will know the reference of that nonsensical insult)
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    Dec 04, 2013 8:53 PM GMT
    Dear Bobby Boo Boo, just as you seem to have issues with bisexuals, and act as if it's a bad thing, you also have issues with us Bonafide homosexuals and want to stay blind to the truth that we exists and we mate like it or not, are many the world over there are homosexuals who never have and never will have sex with a female in anyway; we just are not born that way. I am proud to of been a out homosexual for most of my life - the first five years of my life, and you can't take that truth away from me; And not lived in a state of self loathing looking down on us homosexuals as you have when you were straight and a breeding hetrosexual, who has already had a number of wives/ weddings, and children. What did you do for us homosexuals when you were straight? What do your boys think of their gay rainbow flag waving daddy, who was once straight?

    Thus there is no delusions of grandeur being a Bonafide Homosexual, as it's got nothing to do with being better, It's just not the same as being a bisexual; but not much different to a straight male who never has, and never would swing both ways.

    You remind me of the army dad, from the Movie American Beauty. I even once read you whining about how it was your ex wives who deprived you of loveicon_rolleyes.gif

    I'm grateful that I don't need the status of marriage to feel loved and too love, nor is marriage a political issue for me; after all it seems it never made you happy, and I'm sure it made your ex wives miserable.

    Bobby you yourself have told us many times in the past that you looked down at us homosexuals as being dirty, you even once tried to put the blame of this onto me as well, and I know I speak the truth and you misrepresent it with a folk tongue, and now try to rewrite history. Your whole life has been a lie mate, I'm sure you are not going to stop now.

    From your half brother a Proud Bonafide Homosexual.

    One also knows the meaning of what you said, and you also said it, and not Iicon_wink.gif One more thing dear half brother. There has never ever been a limit to the depth of your depravity when it comes to insulting and hating on others, and with your delusions of grander you seem to think we owe you some form of respect; what a pisser.
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    Dec 04, 2013 9:34 PM GMT
    Draper saidromney.gif


    lol, we already know you hate gay people. icon_lol.gif
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    Draper saidromney.gif


    lol, we already know you hate gay people. icon_lol.gif


    But straight men hate other straight men, but this does not make then self loathing heterosexuals. I myself in my life have seen gay and bi men do many bad things, both in real life and here at RJ, and I am not homophobic, nor self loathing; icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 05, 2013 9:01 PM GMT
    tru_blu_ozzie saidDear Bobby Boo Boo, just as you seem to have issues with bisexuals, and act as if it's a bad thing, you also have issues with us Bonafide homosexuals and want to stay blind to the truth that we exists and we mate like it or not, are many the world over there are homosexuals who never have and never will have sex with a female in anyway; we just are not born that way. I am proud to of been a out homosexual for most of my life - the first five years of my life, and you can't take that truth away from me; And not lived in a state of self loathing looking down on us homosexuals as you have when you were straight and a breeding hetrosexual, who has already had a number of wives/ weddings, and children. What did you do for us homosexuals when you were straight? What do your boys think of their gay rainbow flag waving daddy, who was once straight?

    Thus there is no delusions of grandeur being a Bonafide Homosexual, as it's got nothing to do with being better, It's just not the same as being a bisexual; but not much different to a straight male who never has, and never would swing both ways.

    You remind me of the army dad, from the Movie American Beauty. I even once read you whining about how it was your ex wives who deprived you of loveicon_rolleyes.gif

    I'm grateful that I don't need the status of marriage to feel loved and too love, nor is marriage a political issue for me; after all it seems it never made you happy, and I'm sure it made your ex wives miserable.icon_cry.gif

    Bobby you yourself have told us many times in the past that you looked down at us homosexuals as being dirty, you even once tried to put the blame of this onto me as well, and I know I speak the truth and you misrepresent it with a folk tongue, and now try to rewrite history. Your whole life has been a lie mate, I'm sure you are not going to stop now.

    From your half brother a Proud Bonafide Homosexual.

    One also knows the meaning of what you said, and you also said it, and not Iicon_wink.gif One more thing dear half brother. There has never ever been a limit to the depth of your depravity when it comes to insulting and hating on others, and with your delusions of grander you seem to think we owe you some form of respect; what a pisser.


  • metta

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    Jan 30, 2014 8:49 PM GMT
    Fred Karger Subpoenaed by Justice Dept. in NOM Lawsuit Against IRS

    http://www.frontiersla.com/frontiers-blog/2014/01/30/fred-karger-subpoenaed-by-justice-dept-in-nom-lawsuit-against-irs