Retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor performs same-sex wedding at U.S. Supreme Court building

  • metta

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    Oct 29, 2013 8:16 PM GMT
    Retired Justice Sandra Day O’Connor performs same-sex wedding at U.S. Supreme Court building

    http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/10/oconnor-performs-same-sex-wedding-at-u-s-supreme-court-building/
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    Oct 30, 2013 12:31 PM GMT
    I wonder if she would have voted for full marriage rights in Windsor and Hollingsworth.
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    Oct 30, 2013 12:38 PM GMT
    libertpaulian saidI wonder if she would have voted for full marriage rights in Windsor and Hollingsworth.

    I wonder how YOU would have voted? We do know how perennial homophobes Alito & Thomas did actually vote.
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:38 PM GMT
    leatherblond said
    ART_DECO said
    libertpaulian saidI wonder if she would have voted for full marriage rights in Windsor and Hollingsworth.

    I wonder how YOU would have voted? We do know how perennial homophobes Alito & Thomas did actually vote.


    There are other reasons to not vote for gay marriage besides being a homophobe. Just sayin...


    Enlighten us.
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    Oct 31, 2013 3:25 AM GMT
    " our culture (not religion) has defined marriage as between a man and a woman. "

    >>> culture <<<< is not a legal term. It can not define marriage in a court of law. Marriage is a legal proceeding with legal documents with many legal implications. We are living in a society with laws.
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    Oct 31, 2013 3:36 AM GMT
    Hearing about Justice O'Connor officiating a same-sex wedding intrigued me. Back in 1986, she said that it was constitutional for states to criminalize gay sex. Then, in 2003, she said that she still thought that it was constitutional to criminalize gay sex, and that it was also constitutional to deny same-sex marriage recognition. Now, ten years later, she's taking part in a same-sex wedding. Good for her!
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    Oct 31, 2013 4:20 PM GMT
    leatherblond said
    mke_bt said
    leatherblond said
    ART_DECO said
    libertpaulian saidI wonder if she would have voted for full marriage rights in Windsor and Hollingsworth.

    I wonder how YOU would have voted? We do know how perennial homophobes Alito & Thomas did actually vote.


    There are other reasons to not vote for gay marriage besides being a homophobe. Just sayin...


    Enlighten us.


    Sure.

    First you have to understand the definition of the word homophobe. It is fear or contempt for lesbians and/or gay men.

    Second, you have to understand that our culture (not religion) has defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

    One can have a respect for our culture and NOT be a homophobe.

    Hope you and the other person who originally made the homophobe comment can follow that. Of course, it's just easier (and provides a sense of personal satisfaction) to go around labeling people as homophobes simply because they don't agree with you.


    Isn't that similar to saying that there is nothing wrong with people supporting slavery because...golly gee...we always had it before and the bible even supports it. They don't hate the black people. They are trying to protect them and take care of them...right?
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    Oct 31, 2013 5:16 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    leatherblond said
    mke_bt said
    leatherblond said
    ART_DECO said
    libertpaulian saidI wonder if she would have voted for full marriage rights in Windsor and Hollingsworth.

    I wonder how YOU would have voted? We do know how perennial homophobes Alito & Thomas did actually vote.


    There are other reasons to not vote for gay marriage besides being a homophobe. Just sayin...


    Enlighten us.


    Sure.

    First you have to understand the definition of the word homophobe. It is fear or contempt for lesbians and/or gay men.

    Second, you have to understand that our culture (not religion) has defined marriage as between a man and a woman.

    One can have a respect for our culture and NOT be a homophobe.

    Hope you and the other person who originally made the homophobe comment can follow that. Of course, it's just easier (and provides a sense of personal satisfaction) to go around labeling people as homophobes simply because they don't agree with you.


    Isn't that similar to saying that there is nothing wrong with people supporting slavery because...golly gee...we always had it before and the bible even supports it. They don't hate the black people. They are trying to protect them and take care of them...right?


    No, it's not at all similar.

    The other person's assertion that just because someone doesn't think the way he does is not proof that anyone has a hatred or fear of homosexuals. That's the point that leatherblond was making.
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    Nov 01, 2013 12:47 AM GMT
    Two major aspects of the culture of America is inclusivity--this is the melting pot--and scientific--thus our preponderance of Nobel laureates. Even Jesusland people accept that Earth revolves around the Sun because science says so. Science does not bow to religion.

    So when science says, as it has repeatedly so since the 1970s, that being gay is as normal as being str8, then it is the inclination of this culture to include us with all the human dignities and freedoms and responsibilities enjoyed by str8 people.

    Anything counter that, any force seeking to deny us our equal human rights is not in tune with culture. And that is why it is going to lose this war. This fight for the freedom to express our humanity. Countering rights for gay people is not respect for culture. It spits on culture. It is homophobic.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
    Homophobia encompasses a range of negative attitudes and feelings toward homosexuality or people who are identified or perceived as being lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs
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    Nov 03, 2013 10:39 AM GMT
    This does not surprise me. Zonies (native Arizonans) traditionally have a strong libertarian streak in us that somehow got misplaced when so many ppl moved in from elsewhere. Barry Goldwater's views on gays changed in his later life; and his overall views became more progressive. The Honorable O'Connor is no different.