Sick of hearing bisexual men cheat, are not worth, etc.

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    Oct 30, 2013 12:35 AM GMT
    Whats with all the hate? Did YOU actually have a bad experience with a bi man? All these assumptions about bisexuals are 100% bullshit. Im not saying that every bi man is gonna be perfect, but its just the same as the rest (straight or gay) and not worse like most of you tend to think.
  • KepaArg

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    Oct 30, 2013 12:56 AM GMT
    One of my ex's from when I lived in Argentina is bi. Had a great relationship with him, never cheated, nor did I question his fidelity to me.

    We dated for 2 years and still friends today. Things ended when I decided to move to Tokyo.
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    Oct 30, 2013 12:57 AM GMT
    KepaArg saidOne of my ex's from when I lived in Argentina is bi. Had a great relationship with him, never cheated, nor did I question his fidelity to me.

    We dated for 2 years and still friends today. Things ended when I decided to move to Tokyo.

    We southerners...the best kind
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    Oct 30, 2013 12:59 AM GMT
    Mate I think its more about self hatred and some queens being jealous that some guys like both and can still "have it all". I personally don't care either way and haven't had any experience of any of my bi exes cheating. Just ignore the jellyicon_cool.gif
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    Oct 30, 2013 12:59 AM GMT
    David3000 said
    KepaArg saidOne of my ex's from when I lived in Argentina is bi. Had a great relationship with him, never cheated, nor did I question his fidelity to me.

    We dated for 2 years and still friends today. Things ended when I decided to move to Tokyo.

    We southerners...the best kind


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  • Timbales

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    Oct 30, 2013 1:09 AM GMT
    IMO, the issue people have with bisexuals is that they unwilling to adhere to the need for labels our society loves to assign. Being gay is now political. People insist on telling others "You were born gay and denied who you were until you came out."
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:14 AM GMT
    I don't judge. Besides, they're great for sex.
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:45 AM GMT
    I've never (yet) gotten with a bi guy who was into bottoming, but with Yours Truly that's not a deal breaker. icon_wink.gif

    Few things should be put in absolute, "100%," terms. "Assumptions" about switch-hitters is one of those that shouldn't. In my experience far more bi's are looking for an affair on the side, or good sex on the DL, while keeping a wife/girlfriend for appearances. Cheating gays are far from unheard of, but not to the extent of the fence jumpers. As for "straight-identifying" or "curious" men, they're bi to some degree anyway and are only kidding themselves. And they're equally poor LTR prospects.

    I know of one, count 'em, relationship between a bi man and a gay man which has not only lasted but has lasted for thirty years. So I know better than to paint with a broad brush. But the odds of something between such a pair enduring are undeniably greater than if both guys were gay.
  • Amelorn

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    Oct 30, 2013 4:50 AM GMT
    I hear you, OP. More than a few gays treat bi men as the "race traitors" of the LGBT "family."
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
    A bi guy is no more likely to cheat than any guy.
  • Hothouse

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    Oct 30, 2013 1:24 PM GMT
    It may be that some gay men feel some sort of disconnect with bi guys because as a gay man they aren't interested in women, and can't understand or accept that the bi man likes women and men.

    Maybe they feel like they may loose the man because he'll eventually want a woman.

    Maybe they think the bi guy isn't being honest and is really gay but say's he's bi.

    I think it has more to do with the gay man's insecurity than the bi man.

    Personally, I have no issue with it. I really haven't met that many bi men, but sexuality is fluid and everyone is different so who am I to judge. Besides, I kinda feel like I'm bi-curious since even though I've never had sex with a woman, I'm curious about it.
    Oh, and for me, a bi man is a turn on, there's something very sexually stimulating about bisexuals.
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    Oct 30, 2013 1:53 PM GMT
    I have observed repeatedly that Bisexuals seem to get a raw deal in the stereotype and stigma departments in the supposedly liberated LGBTQI AND Straight communities.

    I don't sense that there has yet to be a more global conversation towards understanding and accepting Bisexuals as "just like anybody else" AND with their own unique identity and behavioral dimensions.

    It's time for "Mainstream Gays" and others to wake up and engage our brothers and sisters.
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    Oct 30, 2013 4:12 PM GMT
    I was 10 years with a bi guy. We did sometimes have a chick in bed for him. He also enjoyed trans people so we sometimes brought home the nightclub entertainment. He wasn't just bisexual but try sexual and I was okay with that.

    Even though our relationship was open, I sometimes think that I would have felt cheated on had he been fucking around with another guy, you know, a non trans guy, with another me. Though I had zero issues about him playing with everyone else as I wanted for him to be able to enjoy the full range of his sexuality. I enjoyed him being himself.

    I never would have said anything and I'd have simply dealt with it as I knew him to be emotionally loyal to our relationship. Though, just as he might have also required touching twat, ick, why would I rule out that he might have also required touching other men besides me. That was just a little quirky thing I had going, but again, I would have been careful to not act upon it. We are who we are.

    So even though I don't consider myself essentially a jealous guy, I'm not unaware of jealous feelings as they might arise in me.

    Depending where on the sliding bi scale a guy might be, I'd think he was cheating himself if he didn't take the opportunity to express his sexuality fully. But we don't have direct measures, and possibly even the slide on that scale is not permanently fixed to one position. Given that, I'd think some bi guys more or less inclined to express their varied sexuality than others.

    Regardless, I'd rather be less concerned with my own jealousies & insecurities than be more concerned with whether or not I'm restraining someone from being who they naturally are. In picking your poison, I find jealousy more easily diluted than guilt.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 4:42 PM GMT
    I agree with the OP. But why is he butthurt?

    Try making fewer ignorant comments about race, fems, bottoms, and pretty much anyone who isn't tattooed and straight acting, and it should become obvious that stereotypes are made to be broken.
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    Oct 30, 2013 5:09 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidI agree with the OP. But why is he butthurt?

    Try making fewer ignorant comments about race, fems, bottoms, and pretty much anyone who isn't tattooed and straight acting, and it should become obvious that stereotypes are made to be broken.


    Are you talking to ME? I dont make any negative comments about race, femes or whatever, Get your head out of your butt!
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 5:17 PM GMT
    David3000 said
    HottJoe saidI agree with the OP. But why is he butthurt?

    Try making fewer ignorant comments about race, fems, bottoms, and pretty much anyone who isn't tattooed and straight acting, and it should become obvious that stereotypes are made to be broken.


    Are you talking to ME? I dont make any negative comments about race, femes or whatever, Get your head out of your butt!

    You said Asians are too feminine for you, which seems to imply that they all look like women to you.

    I love to break it to you, but they don't all look the same.

    /facepalm
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 5:22 PM GMT
    woodsmen saidHottjoe, David is a good friend of mine. Trust me. He is not discriminatory against Asians.

    HottJoe said
    David3000 said
    HottJoe saidI agree with the OP. But why is he butthurt?

    Try making fewer ignorant comments about race, fems, bottoms, and pretty much anyone who isn't tattooed and straight acting, and it should become obvious that stereotypes are made to be broken.


    Are you talking to ME? I dont make any negative comments about race, femes or whatever, Get your head out of your butt!

    You said Asians are too feminine for you, which seems to imply that they all look like women to you.

    I love to break it to you, but they don't all look the same.

    /facepalm

    Then I must have misread several posts, and all the times he doubled down when called out on it.
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    Oct 30, 2013 5:38 PM GMT
    Woodsmen I appreciate your concern but I dont need you to defend me.
    I said asians look kinda femenine so what? Its true. Now how is that negative? Its just a fact; Soft skin, delicate face features, ussually short, slim, hairless. Thats just telling a fact, not being an ass. If you think asian characteristics are negative then YOU are the one with a big problem 'Hot'Joe. I think some of them are cute.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 5:40 PM GMT
    David3000 saidWoodsmen I appreciate your concern but you never 'corrected' me anything and I dont need you to defend me.
    I said asians look kinda femenine so what? Its true. Now how is that negative? Its just a fact; Soft skin, delicate face features, ussually short, slim, hairless. Thats just telling a fact, not being an ass. If you think asian characteristics are negative then YOU are the one with a big problem. I think some of them are cute.

    Woodsmen looks more masc than a lot of guys on RJ of any race.
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    Oct 30, 2013 5:44 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    David3000 saidWoodsmen I appreciate your concern but you never 'corrected' me anything and I dont need you to defend me.
    I said asians look kinda femenine so what? Its true. Now how is that negative? Its just a fact; Soft skin, delicate face features, ussually short, slim, hairless. Thats just telling a fact, not being an ass. If you think asian characteristics are negative then YOU are the one with a big problem. I think some of them are cute.

    Woodsmen looks more masc than a lot of guys on RJ of any race.


    whatever dude, woodsman is my buddy and i have nothing against him, but thats your opinion, do with it whatever you want.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 30, 2013 5:56 PM GMT
    The point, in case you missed it, is that saying Asians are fem is like saying bisexuals are cheaters who can't last in a relationship.

    Why is it that the bullies are the first to cry?
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:13 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidThe point, in case you missed it, is that saying Asians are fem is like saying bisexuals are cheaters who can't last in a relationship.

    Why is it that the bullies are the first to cry?


    1 - Asians have singular traits, that's a fact. Why do you want to deny it like its a bad thing? Its not. Get over it.

    2 - Whos crying here? I asked a simple question, and you attacked me with your useless reply. You're extremely annoying (and certainly not 'hot').
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:36 PM GMT
    I once dated a unicorn and that bitch cheated with everything.
    I just figured, since this conversation is based on things that don't really exist, like bisexuals, then we may as well include my passionate and thrilling love affair with Boxy the Unicorn, my one true love, who was not nearly as monogamous as I was led to believe.
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:41 PM GMT
    smartmoney saidI once dated a unicorn and that bitch cheated with everything.
    I just figured, since this conversation is based on things that don't really exist, like bisexuals, then we may as well include my passionate and thrilling love affair with Boxy the Unicorn, my one true love, who was not nearly as monogamous as I was led to believe.


    Haha I was waiting for you to show up! So according to you sexuality is black or white, you like only girls or you like only guys, theres NO ROOM for anything else in the middle (let alone trannies, animals and other deviations) Good one! Next joke now please...
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:51 PM GMT
    David3000 saidWhats with all the hate? Did YOU actually have a bad experience with a bi man? All these assumptions about bisexuals are 100% bullshit. Im not saying that every bi man is gonna be perfect, but its just the same as the rest (straight or gay) and not worse like most of you tend to think.

    Let the haters hate. When they ask why heteronormative society doesn't take their pleas for equality and "we're born this way" seriously, point to this issue. It's an obvious double standard from a group that's so big on using science & logic rather than personal experiences & dogma. If they want the world to be inclusive of them, they should start being inclusive of their own fellow men...

    But that's logical. We couldn't possibly allow LOGIC to dictate anything in our community now, could we? icon_rolleyes.gif