The fundie christians screaming "They're coming to your town"

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    Dec 01, 2008 4:59 AM GMT
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    Dec 01, 2008 5:22 AM GMT


    Yep, it'll never be the same, and who knows what gay stuff is lurking in the hearts of men?

    Sorry, couldn't resist this - part 2 and 3 are available on YouTube...

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    Dec 01, 2008 5:26 AM GMT
    "a well organized gay agenda"

    That was the must ludicrous line in the whole thing.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:28 AM GMT
    They're coming to your town? That's the most foolish statement! HELLO!!!! WE'RE ALREADY HERE!!!!! Do these people actually believe that homosexuality is a new thing. It's been around for a number of millennia and same sex marriages were even performed by the friggin' Catholic and Greek Orthodox Churches from the fifth century to the fourteenth century. These people are friggin' idiots. There are few gay-agenda radicals that want us to just go out in the street and just fuck each other in front of everybody. I'm starting to think that's what we should do as they just don't get it. They can think of us in any way they want, but they're just retarded to think we're a new issue and that we are out to convert their children. Frankly, I don't want their retarded babies in the crowd at the bar!!!
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:52 AM GMT
    Yes, they might even do your hair!!! Or even give you a mortgage!!!! Or save your life in the ER!!!!!!!!!!! THIS MUST BE STOPPED!!

    I rest my case.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:57 AM GMT
    I agree with them. I'm devoutly christian, but am comfortable living in sin and indulging in my perverted lust for men. I know that many of you may not feel the same way, but then again it's part of your gay agenda.
    I believe gays should be kept away from our children before they poison their minds with their dispicable lifestyle. They are trying to take our cities one at a time, but in the end it will be God who is laughing as he watches the homosexuals burn for their depravity.



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    Dec 01, 2008 9:43 AM GMT
    I cannot decide if this is a joke post or for real.

    Whilst I respsect the poster's views, as a Christian and a Lay Pastor who is looking to become an Ordained Minister with Unitarian & Free Christian Church I would say that no, God does not hate homosexuals.

    Jesus says not a thing about them in his parables or sermons, and as many Christians believe Jesus = God then thats God speaking through a human mouth piece?

    Jesus also said he came to bring freedome to the captives and said the downtrodden, the meak, sorrowful, peacemakers were all "Blessed" and beloved of God. You don't get much more downtrodden than minorities, whether through race, sex or gender.

    Similarly, in his parable of the "Good Samaritan" Jesus taught about reachign accross the strict divisive barriers of society and religion to touch, reach out and love someone who was considered to be "untouchable" and abhorant. The story of the Phoenician woman at the Well is in a similar vein about the all embracing, radically inclusive love of God as display through Jesus. Look at hte community Jesus created around him - his disciples. A complete mix of people from various backgrounds and the massive role given to women at a time when a woman was someones chattel.

    St Paul, however, (or at least the writer of the letters tot he Corinthians and Rome etc which probably wasn't Paul as there are major stylistic differances between the letters ascribed to Paul), does have problems with homosexuals. The writer suggests that they give up their "natural" sexuality and chose to be homosexual. That was the scientific and sociological view point of 2,000 years ago - two millenia later we now know differantly about sexuality and psychologies. Similarly, a lot of what the writer of those letters refers to isnt homosexualty - he refers in Romans to "Pedersastry" which was an ancient Greek practice where an older tutor would have a close and often physical relationship with his pupil (often of a sexual nature) who was pubescent or early teen. This was decreed illegal under Roman Law so to have someone writing about Morals and re-iterating Roman Law to places under Roman Rule or Influecne would make sense. THe writer also refers to the word "Malakoi" which in 99% of its uses in the bible refers to "soft" int he context of clothing, yet in Romans it is translated as meaning effeminate or homosexual. Why? The word doesnt mean that.

    Also remembmer St John says "whosoever believeth in him [Jesus] shall not perish". Yes, whosoever, theres no small print saying no gays. Its anyone who believes in Jesus irrespective of sex, race, sexuality, age, wealth.

    When I see people iwth "Jesus hate fags" my heart bleeds - Jesus doesnt hate! Yes he was very much opposed to the Pharisees and their hypocritical stance on religion etc but he never said he hated them.

    If one reads the Bible literally in a modern English translation, e.g. New English Bible, and accapts it word for word as being exactly how it was written and what it says and expressses now is how it was inteded - a very very simplistic, un critical, non scholarly approach - then yes the Bible does suggest that homosexuals are wrong.

    One has to remember that God did not dictate the Bible, it was inspire by God but written by people at differant places and points in time and societies and as such is a collection of documents, some of which do not agree with each other. The Bible isnt the revelation of God, God is the revelation of God.

    However, if you look at what the words actually mean, the historical context and also apply the scholarly levels of criticism as one would apply to any other book to the Bible then I think you can get a truer understanding of how it came to be written (i.e. be differant people at differant points in time and for differant reasons) and what it says.

    But, to reiterate, Jesus says nothing about Homosexuality. Furthermore, He came to bring an end to the "old law" ie. that of Leviticus with its references to prawns, touching the skin of pigs and homosexuality as all being equally "ritually unclean". The writer of the letters traditionally ascribed to St Paul was reiterating Roman Law and also trying to understand homosexuality in the thinking of his day, i.e.2,000 years ago . Modern science has shown homosexuals do not chose to be homosexual and are born that way. It is therefore "natural" and if one still wants to apply the letters acribed to St Paul about chosing sexuality, then it would be "unnatural" for a Gay person to pretent or act as straight.

    Jesus does not hate. He loves. Radically and Inclusively, so much so he laid down His life for what he believed in and people who he loved. Here endeth the lesson.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:44 AM GMT
    LOL I think this DVD was made by gay people (as indicated by the really gay techno gay porn music in the background).
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:46 AM GMT
    i was joking by the way
    nice informative post though
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:51 AM GMT
    lol thanks. Just hope I wasnt too preachy...icon_wink.gif

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    Dec 01, 2008 1:21 PM GMT
    The 80s Strike Back!!! and this time...their using better audio!
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    Dec 01, 2008 2:18 PM GMT
    Is there anything worse than a narrow minded, poorly educated, meaner-than-dirt born-again? Ever catch a minute of their telecasts - begging for money? Is there more of a national shame or embarrassment than these people present?
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    Dec 01, 2008 2:23 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie said"a well organized gay agenda"

    That was the must ludicrous line in the whole thing.


    Obviously none of these people have spent a lot of time volunteering in the gay community. I am happy if the lesbians and gay men are on speaking terms let alone well organized. icon_confused.gif
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    Dec 01, 2008 2:24 PM GMT
    Elderthlas saidThe 80s Strike Back!!! and this time...their using better audio!


    shit Reagan is back? fuck
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    Dec 01, 2008 2:55 PM GMT
    Where's the DVD to get the fundies OUT of your town? I'd get a 5-pack gift set of those for friends and family.
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    Dec 01, 2008 3:29 PM GMT
    Ooooh ... the heatenous monsters are coming to get your children !

    That tired old thing again?
    They've been using that same tired old story for the last 100 years
    It's starting not to work and they are getting more and more frustrated
    and there's nothing more dangerous than a frustrated Christian Fundamentalist
    If you haven't seen the movie Milk... go see it
    it illustrates the history and need to combat this menace at every turn
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    Dec 01, 2008 3:39 PM GMT
    i like children- they taste less grisly and are easier to cook- i usually go after them first when i take over a new town or small city.
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    Dec 01, 2008 4:28 PM GMT
    what a crock of shit
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    Dec 01, 2008 4:43 PM GMT
    Miasma saidI agree with them. I'm devoutly christian, but am comfortable living in sin and indulging in my perverted lust for men. I know that many of you may not feel the same way, but then again it's part of your gay agenda.
    I believe gays should be kept away from our children before they poison their minds with their dispicable lifestyle. They are trying to take our cities one at a time, but in the end it will be God who is laughing as he watches the homosexuals burn for their depravity.



    Have fun sucking cocks in hell
    Peace.



    Ha ha, your souls in turmoil! icon_biggrin.gif

    And FYI, I don't believe God has condemned all people with same sex attractions. (points to www.g0ys.org
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    Dec 01, 2008 4:58 PM GMT
    They want to show this in sunday school and bible lessons. I wonder how many gays who are in church that are teenagers will be forced to watch this. I wonder how this will fuck them up emotionally as a result. Unconditional love my ass
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    Dec 01, 2008 5:16 PM GMT
    Whoo hooo! They're coming to town? Par-tay!! And me without a THING to wear ... icon_biggrin.gif

    Bigotry is often just the fear of the unknown ... of 'them'. Which is why looknrnd's point that we're ALREADY here (without the world collapsing in on itself) is an important point to make to these folks. Although I'm not convinced rational arguments go anywhere with people who want to hate.

    Can someone please fax me a copy of the 'gay agenda'? Mine seems to have gotten lost in the mail ...
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    Dec 01, 2008 5:27 PM GMT
    jakebenson saidLOL I think this DVD was made by gay people (as indicated by the really gay techno gay porn music in the background).


    jake, it's not made by gay people. It's made by American Family Association.

    from their site:Residents of the small Arkansas town of Eureka Springs noticed the homosexual community was growing. But they felt no threat. They went about their business as usual. Then, one day, they woke up to discover that their beloved Eureka Springs, a community which was known far and wide as a center for Christian entertainment--had changed. The City Council had been taken over by a small group of homosexual activists.

    The Eureka Springs they knew is gone. It is now a national hub for homosexuals. Eureka Springs is becoming the San Francisco of Arkansas. The story of how this happened is told in the new AFA DVD “They’re Coming To Your Town.”


    Just Google for "they're coming to your town" and you'll see their page
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    Dec 01, 2008 5:36 PM GMT
    TheIStrat saidThey want to show this in sunday school and bible lessons. I wonder how many gays who are in church that are teenagers will be forced to watch this. I wonder how this will fuck them up emotionally as a result. Unconditional love my ass


    Unconditional love is like faeries, elves and nymphs, it only exists in fairy tales.

    If you are raised in a fundamentalist Christian household and you are gay then you will likely have issues. I befriended a young gay guy in the late 1980s who was raised Baptist. He had a lot of issues dealing with his same-sex attractions and was very homophobic to other gay men. The friendship did not survive his negative attitude. I don't think he ever dated anyone.

    The only option for gay men in this situation is to join a gay-friendly church like the Episcopalians or Unitarians. If you try and stick with the Baptists, Pentecostals or other fundamentalist churches you will likely never feel accepted.