britney: for the record....did anyone catch it?

  • gymhead_anony...

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    Dec 01, 2008 7:53 AM GMT
    ...i thought it was very candid, intimate, and honest

    a lot of things she shared i didn't know. like the fact she would love to live in new york. how she doesn't get her voice heard as often. also, that shes still friends with laura lynne and courtney.


    ...i really felt for britney. at times, she looked so unhappy but she also mentioned its better to feel no emotion at because it gets taken away from you.


    still there is a fascination about britney spears and its pretty cool. she is the epitome of what pop culture is.

    anyone who watched it, what did you think?
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:04 AM GMT
    I didn't think she was as honest as she could be. But like she said, she will write a good book someday. hehe.

    She didn't really explain the psych ward episode in January of 2008.

    And I alsy agree with OP that she still seems quite unhappy. I think she might be on medication now since she sayd that she doesn't want to feel emotions. but I don't know for sure.

    Despite that I did think she was more honest than most high profile celebrities in her position. So kudos to hericon_smile.gif

    But I think she needs more time to recover and heal before she comes out with a new album. But work seems to make her happy. so good luck to hericon_razz.gif

    Btw, I like the madonna part. I thought she was one of few people who can really understand Britney's life in the spotlight. Her face looked botoxy though. lol.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:13 AM GMT
    I was microwaving a burrito in the kitchen while I caught a few minutes of this that my friends were watching in the living room.

    I think Britney's bored because she hangs around people who want to perform and she's probably over it. Even she knows her music sucks and that her routines are boring. Hopefully she can figure out something productive to do with her life and maybe then spark a following of people who want to be productive like her.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:27 AM GMT
    I didn't watch it nor do I care. I think Britney Spears is a great marketing tool for the community.

    She knows nothing about the subject of music. Shame on her.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:30 AM GMT
    debussy81 saidShe knows nothing about the subject of music. Shame on her.


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    Dec 01, 2008 8:35 AM GMT


    She knows nothing about the subject of music. Shame on her.[/quote]

    LOL.
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:44 AM GMT
    I feel bad for her. I can't imagine how hard it would be to be that famous. It made me realize the things I take for granted, walking down the street for example. She's being crushed by her success.
    I liked how eloquently she expressed her love for dancing; I think it's hard for anyone else but dancers to understand. It's theraputic, and sometimes the only way to work through something is to feel that emotion, and sometimes the only way to express it is to "move a certain way."
    She's in my prayers
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:46 AM GMT
    Miasma saidI feel bad for her. I can't imagine how hard it would be to be that famous. It made me realize the things I take for granted, walking down the street for example. She's being crushed by her success.
    I liked how eloquently she expressed her love for dancing; I think it's hard for anyone else but dancers to understand. It's theraputic, and sometimes the only way to work through something is to feel that emotion, and sometimes the only way to express it is to "move a certain way."
    She's in my prayers


    Being a dancer - I totally agree. From someone who isn't a dancer, it is hard to see what it is like in their shoes. Every time I have the opportunity to dance - it takes me away from all the bullshiz and drama in my life. A release for me to let it all out on the floor. and i love it...which you gotta do.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:18 AM GMT
    jakebenson saidEven she knows her music sucks and that her routines are boring.


    I don't think all her music sucks. I like her new song womanizer. C'mon you know you play a song like that when you feel like having an attitude. It's driving in your car alone singing music. Don't tell me that when you're having a bad day "Stronger" doesn't make you feel just a bit better.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:37 AM GMT
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    jakebenson saidEven she knows her music sucks and that her routines are boring.


    I don't think all her music sucks. I like her new song womanizer. C'mon you know you play a song like that when you feel like having an attitude. It's driving in your car alone singing music. Don't tell me that when you're having a bad day "Stronger" doesn't make you feel just a bit better.


    I don't even think she knows what she's singing about. And no, I don't like to listen to songs that rip-off the Electroclash movement from 2006 by mimicking Godlfrapp with some BT effects in it. That's exactly what this song is. Although technically it's more aesthetically pleasing than her old shit. It'd sound MUCH better though if she just didn't sing in it.

    And no this isn't a song I listen to in the car. My car would throw up.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:47 AM GMT
    Miasma saidI feel bad for her. I can't imagine how hard it would be to be that famous. It made me realize the things I take for granted, walking down the street for example. She's being crushed by her success.
    I liked how eloquently she expressed her love for dancing; I think it's hard for anyone else but dancers to understand. It's theraputic, and sometimes the only way to work through something is to feel that emotion, and sometimes the only way to express it is to "move a certain way."
    She's in my prayers



    yes, it's a shortcoming of most dancers i've known. unfortunately, because most dancers can't articulate their thoughts verbally we all get reduced to stereotypes. it's an oversimplification (if not outright error) to say that dance is theraputic, and it's a completely non-specific statement to say you like to "move in a certain way." it sounds deep to people who don't dance, but it really is a non-statement. there are millions of ways to move: which certain way did you have in mind? explosively? languidly? fluidly? erratically? all? none? butoh, anyone?

    if dance were simply theraputic (as so many movers i know will say in an attempt to validate a form of training that shouldn't require any such justification), then you must be horrifically fucked up to not finally be done with dancing after a few years of training. i mean really... hobbies are theraputic. if you are engulfed in a passion for dance (or any other form of learning), it obliterates your desire for almost anything else. you are nakedly vulnerable to the art, and you are willing to allow your heart and soul to be lashed publically as a proof of your undying devotion.

    dance, in fact, is NOT theraputic - many, if not MOST, of the issues i have in my head stem specifically from being a dancer... how the hell is THAT theraputic? dance is a horribly selfish, one-sided, addictive love affair. dance is a parasite. dance is a jealous, demanding dominatrix who casts you off with a whim. you stick with her loyally in the hopes that she will be loyal in return, that she will reward you for bending your entire existance to her demands. she expects EVERYTHING from you, and gives you very little in return (except to satiate your need for her). dance destroys a dancer on many levels, and the only reason a dancer stays with the art is because of obsession, not simply because of "therapy" or a need to "express myself." bullshit. you stay with the bitch, because she's beautiful and she makes alluring promises...

    brittany, and anyone else who dedicates his/her life to kinesthetic fury, does so because of the addictive, intoxicating rush that comes from exertion, the pain and reward of growth (something anyone who lifts weights should understand), the serenity of finally finding a way to communicate adequately (since words so often are completely useless), and the teasing possibility that maybe it will all be worth it when dance looks at you and finally gives a nod of approval.

    dance is a cunt. and i love her.
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    Dec 01, 2008 12:23 PM GMT
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    debussy81 saidShe knows nothing about the subject of music. Shame on her.


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    Debussy could have stopped writing after the first three words!
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    Dec 01, 2008 2:15 PM GMT
    I never thought it more appropriate to quote eminem.

    What's this bitch retarded? Gimme back my sixteen dollars"
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    Dec 01, 2008 5:43 PM GMT
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    Pedrosxxx said
    jakebenson saidEven she knows her music sucks and that her routines are boring.


    Although technically it's more aesthetically pleasing than her old shit.


    How can a song be aesthetic.





    Fail.
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    Dec 01, 2008 7:32 PM GMT
    And yet, she's making bank.

    Brit-BritI’m like the ringleader,
    I call the shots.
    I’m like a firecracker,
    I make it hot...
    ...when I put on a show.


    I 54421958.heart.gifBRITNEY!
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    Dec 01, 2008 7:44 PM GMT
    My boyfriend absolutely loves her and I can't stand her. I keep my feelings to myself about it, though he knows how much I hate her.

    In my opinion, she can't really sing well, her dance and performance is choreographed and laid out by people who know their shit; she's just the pawn. The woman can't even find Australia on a map, much less complete a sentence without overusing the word "like" every chance she can.
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    .... but with all that, I love my man and I need to figure out why some people like him really find her amazing.... (at first I assumed that guys outgrow her but then the last guy who posted certainly hasn't right?!)

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    Dec 01, 2008 7:58 PM GMT
    Watched it and enjoyed it very much...also enjoyed the countdown show prior that had the 10 most memorable MTV moments on Britney. You know, she is what she is. I think it's silly to deny that she isn't an entertainer. Some may not be particularly entertained by her brand, but it does take some talent to do what she does. The countdown reminded me, and I had forgotten, just how much Britney has accomplished, not to mention how many hits she has had and records she has sold, and all the memorable videos, in just 10 short years. How she managed to do all that, while having 2 kids, 2 marriages, AND a breakdown is mind-boggling. Regardless, Britney I suspect isn't going anywhere. I always enjoy watching her perform in her videos, much like I enjoyed watching Madonna before her. She is what she is, and what she is is undeniably a superstar all over the world. The "Off The Record" special was a candid look behind the scenes of what lead to her superstardom, her breakdown, and her fight to regain control of her life. I have no doubt that "CIRCUS" will be a much deserved comeback to Britney in top form. I also enjoyed Madonna's bit in the special talking about how she related to Britney and saw so much of herself in Britney when she was starting out in New York. Britney has worked enormously hard to get where she is, not to mention stay there, and she has paid dearly for her mistakes. This special was a vivid behind the scenes look at the price, and loneliness, of fame,
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    Dec 01, 2008 8:12 PM GMT
    God did I feel for her when she said she was sad and began to cry.

    I think she is very lonely, the people in her life that are mostly around her are there because they have to be, sure she can make relationships with them, but at the end of the day they're her staff and they're paid to be there.

    I think what she is missing is close friends who she can talk to about her problems, who wont try to pawn it off too some tabloid for a quick buck. People who like her for her not just because of who she is as a celebrity.

    I can see how that would feel lonely.

    I think she has a cute humor, the Karate kid comment made me laugh. I was surprised to hear her open up about Justin a little bit.

    I feel like this really helped her.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:21 PM GMT
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    jakebenson saidEven she knows her music sucks and that her routines are boring.


    Although technically it's more aesthetically pleasing than her old shit.


    How can a song be aesthetic.

    Fail.


    Aesthetics apply to music. Therfore, the only failure is your ability to apply aesthetics to sound. The word is not limited to only the application of visual stimulation. So big time fail back atcha bitch.

    Also (in case you were specifying this track) keep in mind I said her music is more aesthetically pleasing only in comparison to her older songs, not overall. Her new "style" follows the current pop trend that incorporates a lot of electro-clash and progressive trance elements over a 4/4 beat around 110-125bpm. It's way more pleasing for me to listen to that compared to 10 years ago when it was hit me baby one more time with my obnoxious cookie cutter hip-hop ripped off and bastardized beat with cheesy sound effects and awful over-played orchestral-hit samples.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:25 PM GMT
    I loved every second of it. It was really well done. Also, I liked her genuine relationship with her father.
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:27 PM GMT
    jakebenson saidI don't even think she knows what she's singing about. And no, I don't like to listen to songs that rip-off the Electroclash movement from 2006 by mimicking Godlfrapp with some BT effects in it. That's exactly what this song is. Although technically it's more aesthetically pleasing than her old shit. It'd sound MUCH better though if she just didn't sing in it.

    And no this isn't a song I listen to in the car. My car would throw up.


    Wow that was a bit harsh. I here I always thought that you could just like a song without caring which movements it ripped off and what effects it used. But now, jakebenson, now you've shown me the truth that music can only be appreciated based on my opinions of the artist him/herself and what purist beliefs of the genre is violates.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 01, 2008 9:58 PM GMT
    It's hard to know how much is Britney and how much is producers, makeup artists, etc. Britney has that star quality and is a good dancer (and also genuinely sexy)...but how far can she go with the "hi I'm sexy look at me" thing? Point is, when she gets down to really dealing with why she broke down and putting that into her music, then she'll be really interesting. Her better work is ahead of her if she can take off the pretty blonde mask for a minute and go all the way into whatever she wants to say (i.e., if you wanna do the sexy thing, see how far you can really go in that territory as Madonna somewhat did in 1993).

    (Also, I still think "Blackout" is her best work so far and had it been released by an unknown poptart it would've been heralded..."Break the Ice" is a hell of a song on an aggressive beat which rocks, imho.)
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    Dec 01, 2008 10:11 PM GMT
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    jakebenson saidI don't even think she knows what she's singing about. And no, I don't like to listen to songs that rip-off the Electroclash movement from 2006 by mimicking Godlfrapp with some BT effects in it. That's exactly what this song is. Although technically it's more aesthetically pleasing than her old shit. It'd sound MUCH better though if she just didn't sing in it.

    And no this isn't a song I listen to in the car. My car would throw up.


    Wow that was a bit harsh. I here I always thought that you could just like a song without caring which movements it ripped off and what effects it used. But now, jakebenson, now you've shown me the truth that music can only be appreciated based on my opinions of the artist him/herself and what purist beliefs of the genre is violates.icon_rolleyes.gif


    I've been producing music since I was 17 and been playing the piano since I was 4. So obviously I know far more details of the composition of a given song than the untrained listener. I appreciate music far more than you know, and the fact that I can dissect it doesn't automatically mean I hate it. I already explained that this track is comparatively more aesthetic than her previous work, but I also explained why I didn't like it. That explanation in and of itself is not faulty reasoning. Therefore go roll your eyes up your own ass and then tell me what you see. icon_eek.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 01, 2008 10:18 PM GMT
    "Womanizer" could be called a rip-off, musically, of Rhianna "S.O.S."...both tracks are rip-offs and inferior to Goldfrapp's "Ooh La La La" from the album Supernature (for those interested).

    Not that anyone asked but for those of you B fans who like the sound of Womanizer, you should check out electroclash/hip hop-esque/rocker chick Peaches, an artist whose work is (to be frank) 1,000 miles better than Brit's.
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    Dec 01, 2008 10:24 PM GMT
    Jackal69 said"Womanizer" could be called a rip-off, musically, of Rhianna "S.O.S."...both tracks are rip-offs and inferior to Goldfrapp's "Ooh La La La" from the album Supernature (for those interested).


    Apparently I'm not the only one who knows music well enough (and knows pop stars are posing like Goldfrapp).

    Good work Jackal69!