Thinking of joining the US Military after my last post...

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    Oct 31, 2013 1:20 AM GMT
    Good Evening RealJocks! icon_smile.gif Hope you guys are doing well. icon_smile.gif

    What is it like joining the Military? Is bootcamp really "HELL"?

    I had to enroll myself in the Selective Service System because it was one the requirements I have to fulfill as a permanent resident and since I'm still in that age bracket.

    I don't really know much about the Military but I want to be able experience it. One of the responses I got from my previous post (about moving away from family) is that, one of the reasons why he joined the military is because he wanted to get away from home. It struck me.

    I wanted to move out bad. But I know it would be a bad idea if that's my only reason for joining the Military. And no, that's not the only reason. I've been reading articles online and I really want to challenge myself as well and bring out the best of me. One of the articles I've read says this:

    "The training programs are scientifically and psychologically designed to tear apart the "civilian" and build from scratch a proud, physically fit, and dedicated member of the United States Armed Forces."

    I want to be trained by them. I want to be able to do something that I can be proud of. I know it's easier said than done and I'm pretty sure it's a tough career choice. Some of the things they make you do, makes me nervous just by reading them. But the daredevil in me just says I am up for a challenge.

    Also, I've read online that a lot of people do it to pay for college? How is that possible? I really want to finish school too. And one of the pamphlets/flyers they sent me in the mail was about continuing your education. How can joining the Military help me if I want to finish school?

    Is it worth it if I leave my job and try the Military instead?

    I am just scared. I am not really most comfortable being surrounded by straight guys, especially straight guys with different culture than I have. I don't know if that's gonna be an issue.

    What are you experiences in the Military? Was it worth it? Should I even consider it or just forget it?
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    Oct 31, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    You don't have to join the military to be proud for something. I use to think like that not to long ago. I truly felt like I was a loser for not joining it. Then I learned that joining the military isn't everything. There are other things you can do to make yourself feel proud.

    If you really do have a certain goal, or a vision that you feel like doing, then there's nothing I can say that'll convince you.
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    Oct 31, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    El_Tango_Returns saidYou don't have to join the military to be proud for something. I use to think like that not to long ago. Then I learned that joining the military isn't everything. There are other things you can do to make yourself feel proud.

    If you really do have a certain goal, or a vision that you feel like doing, then there's nothing I can say that'll convince you.


    What made you not do it? Did you learn something bad? :C
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    Oct 31, 2013 1:56 AM GMT
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    El_Tango_Returns saidYou don't have to join the military to be proud for something. I use to think like that not to long ago. Then I learned that joining the military isn't everything. There are other things you can do to make yourself feel proud.

    If you really do have a certain goal, or a vision that you feel like doing, then there's nothing I can say that'll convince you.


    What made you not do it? Did you learn something bad? :C


    My point was that you don't have to join the military to feel proud for something.
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    Oct 31, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
    DarkLight saidFirst off let me say this, joining the military is like going to college with the same "promise of education and or accomplishment." Surprised answer? Ding! It's NOT. So many still aren't awake in this country to what's going on. It's frightening actually. Understand there's nothing wrong for wanting to be a patriot and fight for the interest of your country. But there is a problem when you are fighting for the interest of international foreign bankers and political lobbyist that make money off of wars and the taking over of other nations and countries including America currently.

    You better do some research and look around before you sacrifice yourself to a cause of financial interest and NOT freedom, dear. icon_neutral.gif


    ohhh. really? :C
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    Oct 31, 2013 2:34 AM GMT
    jonnymia saidDark listen to Darklight. He's one chromosome away from needing to wear a helmet.

    As someone who has served in the military, I saw think long and hard before deciding to join. While your reasons seem good and noble enough, will you still 100% believe the same in a few years? I say that because the military is nothing something you can just quit. It is just as difficult to get out of the military as it is getting in. You will pretty much belong to Uncle Sam for 4 years or more. You do what they say, go where they say, and act how they say. You will be able to retain a little freedom, but the person you are today will be completely transformed.


    Bootcamp is just as much mental as it is physical. I'm only speaking for Marine Corps bootcamp since that was the brach I was in. It is very difficult but not impossible. Just being in tip top shape and be ready to swallow your pride. They really do put any bad attitudes you may have in check. Here, all men are put on equal footing so everyone is given a chance to either shine, or break.


    I say talk to a recuriter, so to some poole functions to get a small taste of what military life is like. If you think you can handle it, go for it. If not, then wait awhile before you sign on the dotted line.


    HEEEEY!!! Im so happy to see you again! I missed you (no homo!) icon_smile.gif

    thank you for your inspiring words (they did inspire me). I am actually planning on joining the Air Force. It just seems like a VERY crazy idea for now, but I am seriously considering it.

    How was your experience being in the Navy?
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    Oct 31, 2013 2:55 AM GMT
    Jantheman saidGood Evening RealJocks! icon_smile.gif Hope you guys are doing well. icon_smile.gif

    What is it like joining the Military? Is bootcamp really "HELL"?

    I had to enroll myself in the Selective Service System because it was one the requirements I have to fulfill as a permanent resident and since I'm still in that age bracket.

    I don't really know much about the Military but I want to be able experience it. One of the responses I got from my previous post (about moving away from family) is that, one of the reasons why he joined the military is because he wanted to get away from home. It struck me.

    I wanted to move out bad. But I know it would be a bad idea if that's my only reason for joining the Military. And no, that's not the only reason. I've been reading articles online and I really want to challenge myself as well and bring out the best of me. One of the articles I've read says this:

    "The training programs are scientifically and psychologically designed to tear apart the "civilian" and build from scratch a proud, physically fit, and dedicated member of the United States Armed Forces."

    I want to be trained by them. I want to be able to do something that I can be proud of. I know it's easier said than done and I'm pretty sure it's a tough career choice. Some of the things they make you do, makes me nervous just by reading them. But the daredevil in me just says I am up for a challenge.

    Also, I've read online that a lot of people do it to pay for college? How is that possible? I really want to finish school too. And one of the pamphlets/flyers they sent me in the mail was about continuing your education. How can joining the Military help me if I want to finish school?

    Is it worth it if I leave my job and try the Military instead?

    I am just scared. I am not really most comfortable being surrounded by straight guys, especially straight guys with different culture than I have. I don't know if that's gonna be an issue.

    What are you experiences in the Military? Was it worth it? Should I even consider it or just forget it?
    No. Don't do it. I've read your previous threads. You don't seem to have the right mindset to be in a military environment. Also, the reasons you laid out in this thread tells me you're joining for the wrong reasons. You'll hate being in the military, and those around you will start to hate you because you'll always be bitching about it.

    Just finish school. Find a job away from your family. And start your own life.
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    Oct 31, 2013 2:59 AM GMT
    DarkLight said
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    DarkLight saidFirst off let me say this, joining the military is like going to college with the same "promise of education and or accomplishment." Surprised answer? Ding! It's NOT. So many still aren't awake in this country to what's going on. It's frightening actually. Understand there's nothing wrong for wanting to be a patriot and fight for the interest of your country. But there is a problem when you are fighting for the interest of international foreign bankers and political lobbyist that make money off of wars and the taking over of other nations and countries including America currently.

    You better do some research and look around before you sacrifice yourself to a cause of financial interest and NOT freedom, dear. icon_neutral.gif


    ohhh. really? :C


    Yeah, and to top it off you know this nut job "jonnymia" or whatever the fuck the troll's name is. Okay so what that tells me, is either the ones that actually like this fool are just like him, or he chooses not to be a douche towards certain others. Either way, if he slipped under a moving lawn mower I wouldn't shed a tear. icon_rolleyes.gif



    im pretty sure each person has an innate kindness within them. it would be nice if all of us could just get along. lets just be nice, even if others are not or if others cannot. but yea, i totally understand your point. and i appreciate you for sharing your thoughts because thats what this post is for. i am gathering opinions from other people to help me with my decision... icon_smile.gif

    you guys be good boys now. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Jantheman saidGood Evening RealJocks! icon_smile.gif Hope you guys are doing well. icon_smile.gif

    What is it like joining the Military? Is bootcamp really "HELL"?

    I had to enroll myself in the Selective Service System because it was one the requirements I have to fulfill as a permanent resident and since I'm still in that age bracket.

    I don't really know much about the Military but I want to be able experience it. One of the responses I got from my previous post (about moving away from family) is that, one of the reasons why he joined the military is because he wanted to get away from home. It struck me.

    I wanted to move out bad. But I know it would be a bad idea if that's my only reason for joining the Military. And no, that's not the only reason. I've been reading articles online and I really want to challenge myself as well and bring out the best of me. One of the articles I've read says this:

    "The training programs are scientifically and psychologically designed to tear apart the "civilian" and build from scratch a proud, physically fit, and dedicated member of the United States Armed Forces."

    I want to be trained by them. I want to be able to do something that I can be proud of. I know it's easier said than done and I'm pretty sure it's a tough career choice. Some of the things they make you do, makes me nervous just by reading them. But the daredevil in me just says I am up for a challenge.

    Also, I've read online that a lot of people do it to pay for college? How is that possible? I really want to finish school too. And one of the pamphlets/flyers they sent me in the mail was about continuing your education. How can joining the Military help me if I want to finish school?

    Is it worth it if I leave my job and try the Military instead?

    I am just scared. I am not really most comfortable being surrounded by straight guys, especially straight guys with different culture than I have. I don't know if that's gonna be an issue.

    What are you experiences in the Military? Was it worth it? Should I even consider it or just forget it?
    No. Don't do it. I've read your previous threads. You don't seem to have the right mindset to be in a military environment. Also, the reasons you laid out in this thread tells me you're joining for the wrong reasons. You'll hate being in the military, and those around you will start to hate you because you'll always be bitching about it.

    Just finish school. Find a job away from your family. And start your own life.



    you think so? yea i guess i am not in the right mindset. theres a lot going on in my life right now. and maybe youre mind, maybe this is just a phase im going through since im not yet really settled here. heck, i dont even know how to drive yet.

    im sorry if i offended you in any way. and thank you sir for always sharing your thoughts. really appreciate it icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 31, 2013 3:04 AM GMT
    um..dark is kinda right....if they wanted to stop "terrorists" in thirdworld countries...it is a long walk to america. they could just blow up the ports and airports and the threat would disappear. you wouldnt have to actually go into the countries. money is the only objective
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    Oct 31, 2013 3:07 AM GMT
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    Jantheman saidGood Evening RealJocks! icon_smile.gif Hope you guys are doing well. icon_smile.gif

    No. Don't do it. I've read your previous threads. You don't seem to have the right mindset to be in a military environment. Also, the reasons you laid out in this thread tells me you're joining for the wrong reasons. You'll hate being in the military, and those around you will start to hate you because you'll always be bitching about it.

    Just finish school. Find a job away from your family. And start your own life.



    you think so? yea i guess i am not in the right mindset. theres a lot going on in my life right now. and maybe youre right, maybe this is just a phase im going through since im not yet really settled here. heck, i dont even know how to drive yet.

    but then again, im just considering this. i am still young and i am pretty sure this is the best time for me to explore things. i dont really mean to always bitch about things. im sorry if you feel like i always do.

    im sorry if i offended you in any way. and thank you sir for always sharing your thoughts. really appreciate it icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 31, 2013 3:09 AM GMT
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    jonnymia saidDark listen to Darklight. He's one chromosome away from needing to wear a helmet.


    Out of all the branches, the AF seems the least strict when it comes to military standards. From what I gather, it's more like a 9-5 job with deployments in between. Also, the training and code of conduct is less strict than the other branches. I say, if you want the military experience without having to completely give up who you are, the AF will be your best bet.


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    Oct 31, 2013 4:05 AM GMT
    No! Don't join the military. Do you really think it's worth spending close to a million dollars per troop a year in Afghanistan? You mere presence is doing more harm than good. Somebody is obviously getting rich off this and I think we all know who.

    http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/02/28/one-soldier-one-year-850000-and-rising/
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    Oct 31, 2013 4:36 AM GMT
    If you really want the experience of the military without actually being in it, I think college has an ROTC program. It appears fun, you should give it a try.

    I was actually in a JROTC program in high-school. It's kinda the same thing but it's watered down for 14 year olds. The college experience is probably way different I bet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Officers'_Training_Corps
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    Oct 31, 2013 4:51 AM GMT
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    El_Tango_Returns saidIf you really want the experience of the military without actually being in it, I think college has an ROTC program. It appears fun, you should give it a try.

    I was actually in a JROTC program in high-school. It's kinda the same thing but it's watered down for 14 year olds. The college experience is probably way different I bet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Officers'_Training_Corps


    You're such a pussy. The military isn't supposed to be fun. It ain't band camp.



    You're implying that you can't have a positive experience while having hard work and dedication.
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    Oct 31, 2013 5:11 AM GMT
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    El_Tango_Returns saidIf you really want the experience of the military without actually being in it, I think college has an ROTC program. It appears fun, you should give it a try.

    I was actually in a JROTC program in high-school. It's kinda the same thing but it's watered down for 14 year olds. The college experience is probably way different I bet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Officers'_Training_Corps


    You're such a pussy. The military isn't supposed to be fun. It ain't band camp.



    You're implying that you can't have a positive experience while having hard work and dedication.

    That's not what I implied at all.

    I'm saying that having "fun" is not the purpose of the military. It's more than just a job, it's a lifestyle. And while it CAN be fun at times, by and large it will be long hours, lot's of physical exhaustion, lot's of time away from loved ones, and lots of mental stress. Not exactly fun times...


    I have to be servant-like 95% of the time while spending 5% of my time having fun.
    Got it!
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    Awww, tell me Johnny, what exactly was your experience like?
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    Oct 31, 2013 5:19 AM GMT
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    El_Tango_Returns saidIf you really want the experience of the military without actually being in it, I think college has an ROTC program. It appears fun, you should give it a try.

    I was actually in a JROTC program in high-school. It's kinda the same thing but it's watered down for 14 year olds. The college experience is probably way different I bet.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_Officers'_Training_Corps


    You're such a pussy. The military isn't supposed to be fun. It ain't band camp.



    You're implying that you can't have a positive experience while having hard work and dedication.

    That's not what I implied at all.

    I'm saying that having "fun" is not the purpose of the military. It's more than just a job, it's a lifestyle. And while it CAN be fun at times, by and large it will be long hours, lot's of physical exhaustion, lot's of time away from loved ones, and lots of mental stress. Not exactly fun times...


    I have to be servant-like 95% of the time while spending 5% of my time having fun.
    Got it!
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    Awww, tell me Johnny, what exactly was your experience like?


    I sure as hell ain't telling you, fuckstick.

    And it's JONNY. Get it right.


    You have the same name as my friend and that's why I misspelled it. Why are you insulting me? What did I ever do to you?
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:09 AM GMT
    just don't join the Army and become cannon fodder for no actual cause and get your legs blown off for nothing. Navy or Air Force would be ok but probably really boring
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:15 AM GMT
    somersault saidjust don't join the Army and become cannon fodder for no actual cause and get your legs blown off for nothing. Navy or Air Force would be ok but probably really boring


    Why Navy or Airforce?
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    somersault saidjust don't join the Army and become cannon fodder for no actual cause and get your legs blown off for nothing. Navy or Air Force would be ok but probably really boring


    Why Navy or Airforce?


    extremly lower chances of getting your arms blown off for no reason at all, that's why
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:20 AM GMT
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    somersault saidjust don't join the Army and become cannon fodder for no actual cause and get your legs blown off for nothing. Navy or Air Force would be ok but probably really boring


    Why Navy or Airforce?


    extremely lower chances of getting your arms blown off for no reason at all, that's why


    ahahaha

    Good reasoning.icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:30 AM GMT
    I joined the Navy purely to get away from family. In my case I had a grandmother that my mother dumped me on and my grandmother was very good at making people dependent upon her. I didn't want to be like her son who could never hold down a job and was always falling back on depending on her. When I saw that I was becoming like him it freaked me out and I went down to the recruiter station and joined the Navy.

    Of the four main services Navy and Air Force would be my recommendation. Both are more technical than the Army or Marines. Army would be my last choice of those two.

    With the Air Force they have bases in dreary, remote, and boring places; Mississippi, the midwest, etc. (Apologies to people who live in those places.)

    With the Navy being on a ship isn't a picnic, but it is an adventure. I was in an air squadron on an aircraft carrier. With the Navy you're more likely to get to go to interesting places when you're on a ship. The bases are almost all along the coasts.

    Bootcamp is hard; it's very different than living with mommy and daddy.

    For some people joining the military to get out of a bad situation can be the solution. In retrospect it was still the right thing for me to have done. If nothing else I learned to be self confident and that I could stand on my own to feet on my own. But the military is no picnic and you have to put up with a lot of crap.
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    Oct 31, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
    Looks like the berthing (sleeping) quarters haven't changed much. This is how it looked on the carrier I was on.

    The beds were called racks, appropriately enough. The top part pivoted up and you stored stuff under the mattress as well as in those lockers behind the guy. That's what the hasp and lock are for on them. The bottom one on our right is open.

    The blue cloth is curtains you could draw around.

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    Nov 01, 2013 2:07 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidI joined the Navy purely to get away from family. In my case I had a grandmother that my mother dumped me on and my grandmother was very good at making people dependent upon her. I didn't want to be like her son who could never hold down a job and was always falling back on depending on her. When I saw that I was becoming like him it freaked me out and I went down to the recruiter station and joined the Navy.

    Of the four main services Navy and Air Force would be my recommendation. Both are more technical than the Army or Marines. Army would be my last choice of those two.

    With the Air Force they have bases in dreary, remote, and boring places; Mississippi, the midwest, etc. (Apologies to people who live in those places.)

    With the Navy being on a ship isn't a picnic, but it is an adventure. I was in an air squadron on an aircraft carrier. With the Navy you're more likely to get to go to interesting places when you're on a ship. The bases are almost all along the coasts.

    Bootcamp is hard; it's very different than living with mommy and daddy.

    For some people joining the military to get out of a bad situation can be the solution. In retrospect it was still the right thing for me to have done. If nothing else I learned to be self confident and that I could stand on my own to feet on my own. But the military is no picnic and you have to put up with a lot of crap.



    Thank you. How many years did you serve? I am kind of wondering how some people only serve in the military for a short period of time. ive heard and read that its really hard to get out of it once you sign up. in your case, how did you get out of the military?

    Can you actually do that? And also, why did you not become a soldier? or is there a difference? when you join the military, are you already a soldier even if you only served for 2 years?

    thank you for sharing your insights. i told my mom about this and she was like, with full conviction, "you cannot do that..." lol she thinks im crazy haha. i wanna prove her wrong.
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    Nov 01, 2013 3:35 AM GMT
    Each service, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and Army (and the Coast Guard; why do we always forget it) is entirely separate. None has any control over the others, and certainly the Army has no control over the others. The Marines are really a part of the Navy but that's more of a bureaucratic thing. Marines are Marines and not sailors.

    I was in for 6 years. I initially signed up for 4 but they had a thing where you could get a free boost in rank if you signed up for 2 more so I did that. In retrospect that wasn't a good idea. Don't do any extending of your contract until your current one is almost finished.

    The short duration ones I'm guessing are where you go in for 2 years and then become a reservist for the remaining 2 years. Something about that rubs me the wrong way but I can't really say why. Do the 4 years and get it over with.

    Also be careful when you talk to the recruiters. They'll tell/promise you a lot of stuff that's not true. Once you sign the papers you're committed to whatever they want to do to you. Come back here and verify anything they tell you that's important to you.

    Don't tell your mom/family any more; she'll just make your life hell.