Cadillac Elmiraz (Eldorado) Heading to production?

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    Nov 02, 2013 2:26 PM GMT
    http://www.autoblog.com/photos/cadillac-elmiraj-concept-monterey-2013/full/#photo-716170

    I certainly hope so. Bob Ferguson dropped a big hint in an interview on the 31st.

    "In a wide-ranging discussion, Ferguson also told TheDetroitBureau.com that there is growing support inside GM for transforming the well-reviewed Elmiraj concept vehicle into a production vehicle – and as quickly as possible, though formal corporate approval is not yet a certainty."

    http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2013/10/cadillac-considers-more-battery-car-options/
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    Nov 02, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
    Oh, my my! This is a sleek and sexy coupe! I was a huge fan of Cadillac until around the mid to latter 80's when they started looking like every other car on the market. The cabin looks reasonable (where does my coffee cup go?) and has a nice flow to it. I still do not understand why car makers put back seats into these models. My grand kids might fit back there but that's about all. I love the new tail lights as they hint of the classic fins. Anyway, thanks for the morning drool, Freedom! icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 02, 2013 3:06 PM GMT
    Bharat13 saidOh, my my! This is a sleek and sexy coupe! I was a huge fan of Cadillac until around the mid to latter 80's when they started looking like every other car on the market. The cabin looks reasonable (where does my coffee cup go?) and has a nice flow to it. I still do not understand why car makers put back seats into these models. My grand kids might fit back there but that's about all. I love the new tail lights as they hint of the classic fins. Anyway, thanks for the morning drool, Freedom! icon_cool.gif


    With the exception of the Dildorado from 67-70, I wasn't much of a Cadillac fan after 1966 until maybe decade or so ago. That being said, I owned five of them between 1993 and 2002 (a 93 and 95 STS (pictured) a 97 DeVille Cooncours (pictured) a 2000 DTS and a 2002 DTS). And even that was to be more of an oddball and contrarian in West LA.

    True, I did some really oddball things with them.

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    But I never really thought of them as fantastic all around cars.

    Things are changing now where we can see Cadillac as truly competitive with anything in the world.

    What they've been missing is a range topping line, which we all know is on the way. When they do this though, they have to blow everyone else out of the water.

    This upcoming coupe will be a very large car at 207 - 209" long and will be a four place coupe with plenty of room in the rear (nope... don't do it) ok then, back seat area.



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    Nov 02, 2013 3:30 PM GMT
    Stunning grace under motion







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    Nov 02, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    To those who have read my rants before, know that I think 1965 and 1966 are the pinnacle for post war Cadillac. There was nothing better in terms of refinement, craftsmanship, reliability and although subjective, styling wasn't all that bad either.

    I would love to see them achieve this level of superiority again.






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    Nov 02, 2013 4:34 PM GMT
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    Nov 02, 2013 4:51 PM GMT
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    Agree!

    I also believe the circa 1983 Eldorado was a classy, understated styling jewel in the Cadillac tradition.
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    Nov 02, 2013 5:49 PM GMT
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    Agree!

    I also believe the circa 1983 Eldorado was a classy, understated styling jewel in the Cadillac tradition.


    But it was probably the biggest piece of shit that Cadillac ever made ... both the 4.1 and the diesel, the tranny, body panel fit, Plastic fantastic interior, drive, body structure ... you name it. The 79 and 80 with the 350 or the 368 weren't too bad and even the 81 after you trashed the 8-6-4 crap was ok, but 82, 83 & 84 with the 130 hp 4.1 were terrible
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    Nov 02, 2013 7:03 PM GMT
    The 4.1 v8 engine in our '82 L. D. was quiet & smooth running; but yes, rather under powered.

    But so was everything else in the early 1980's.... Until the 5.0 Mustang G.T. Returned in '83!

    After adding an Emron paint job over the lack luster factory paint; it served several members of our family with quiet, smooth, luxurious (if slow), reliable & stylish transportation.

    It received many compliments....esp when compared to the "downsized", smaller, steaming pile of canine offal models.
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    Nov 02, 2013 7:06 PM GMT
    If only the '82's body & interior could be mated with a 2013 drivetrain!
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    Nov 02, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    rnch saidThe 4.1 v8 engine in our '82 L. D. was quiet & smooth running; but yes, rather under powered.

    But so was everything else in the early 1980's.... Until the 5.0 Mustang G.T. Returned in '83!

    After adding an Emron paint job over the lack luster factory paint; it served several members of our family with quiet, smooth, luxurious (if slow), reliable & stylish transportation.

    It received many compliments....esp when compared to the "downsized", smaller, steaming pile of canine offal models.


    I agree. There sure wasn't much to lust after in the that lost decade or decade and a half. My cutoff to the really good ole era was when they started using chromed plastic .... late 60s to early 70s in most caes.

    I had several T-Bird Turbos starting in 84 which were pretty good cars and my 86 Mark VII LSC, which turned into a raving POS once it got a bunch of miles on it.

    I remember that I was waiting for my new 87 T-Bird Turbo to get here and a new black 87 Mustang GT came in a few days before so I bought that one too. Gawd did I waste money on cars back then.
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    Nov 02, 2013 9:19 PM GMT
    I remember when Cadillacs were comfortable, that car is gorgeous but needs MUCH better seats.
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    Nov 03, 2013 5:27 AM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidTo those who have read my rants before, know that I think 1965 and 1966 are the pinnacle for post war Cadillac. There was nothing better in terms of refinement, craftsmanship, reliability and although subjective, styling wasn't all that bad either.

    I would love to see them achieve this level of superiority again.


    I cannot disagree with your view. The oldest I have had the pleasure of driving was a 1970 Sedan. Currently I have a 1972 factory limo I want to get running and play around with. It could really be a grand little gem.
    Great examples of some serious drool material too, thanks!
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    Nov 03, 2013 8:20 AM GMT
    I hope they get the official green light. It's a very nice looking coupe. Now, All they need is a flagship S-class contender sedan and the brand is complete.
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    Feb 12, 2014 6:40 PM GMT
    Great vid of the next Eldorado