Charlie Crist joins race for Florida governor

  • metta

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    Nov 04, 2013 10:13 PM GMT
    Charlie Crist joins race for Florida governor

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-crist-announces-for-governor-20131104,0,4659952.story
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    Nov 04, 2013 10:43 PM GMT
    No idea who's running against him but if he wins the primary I would have a tough time not abstaining in the general election.

    If my choice winds up being Crist or Scott? Yikes. I think I'd cast a write-in vote for Vomit.
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    Nov 04, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
    I value highly loyalties. He has placed his in question.
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    Nov 05, 2013 12:05 AM GMT
    Aristoshark said
    theantijock saidI value highly loyalties. He has placed his in question.

    Well, that's one way to look at it, certainly.
    But that means that no one is allowed ever to change for the better. Whether it's opportunistic or not, I believe his views have changed. My evidence? That when he was governor he had already started moving in a much more liberal direction.
    If no one is ever allowed to develop or alter their views, why discuss things at all?


    Besides that being opportunistic is not sincere, my freely allowing someone to change even late in life for the better, thus the conversations, does not require honoring them as standard-bearers.
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    Nov 05, 2013 2:36 AM GMT
    I'm pissed that he is the Dems best hope to unseat Scott, but that is more a Dem problem.

    To me he's like Romney. No "there" there. All he cared about as Gov was whats next, where do I go from here.
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    Nov 05, 2013 3:34 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidWell, antijock, I respect your opinion, which I think a number of people share, but I don't share it myself. The man is, I think, sincere, and he is highly electable against Scott (of course I think a hedgehog would be too at this point), and I do not hold his past against him. I would have if I thought this was just ballot-switching for the chance to take on a sitting governor, but as I said I really believe that his views have changed. And frankly, as an example to any other disaffected Republicans, I'd like them to know that they are more than welcome in our big tent.


    Is your love nature as practical as the utilitarianism of your politics?

    Besides that these are not desperate times which I'd require to consider the ends ever justifying any means. I'm not a brain dead absolutist. I recognize that sometimes I have to sway to not break. Is this that?

    He supported banning marriage for same sex people in Florida. He supported banning child adoption by gay people in Florida. This guy, who might even be gay himself--my gaydar certainly goes off--did his damnedest to treat me and mine then and into our futures as 2nd class citizens. I don't reward that. I tell him to go fuck himself.

    We don't need his conveniently adopted revelations on this. I am confident that the wisdom of the Supremes will inevitably tell the sunshine state to take its homophobia and shove it where the sun don't shine. Even thinking in utilitarian terms, we don't need him enough to dismantle our integrity.

    So while I more than welcome him aboard, he ought to just take a seat, and not the captain's.

    This is fucking ludicrist, giving the captain's seat to the guy who just jumped ship. That's quite the float plan.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 05, 2013 12:23 PM GMT
    Rick Scott has been such a F**king nightmare that anyone ....ANYONE should be governor but him
  • metta

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    Jan 02, 2014 5:53 PM GMT
    In his first-ever interview with the LGBT press, Charlie Crist explains why he switched parties, supports same-sex marriage, and wants to be governor again


    http://www.watermarkonline.com/2013/12/31/in-his-first-ever-interview-with-the-lgbt-press-charlie-crist-explains-why-he-switched-parties-supports-same-sex-marriage-and-wants-to-be-governor-again/
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    Jan 03, 2014 5:28 AM GMT
    [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outrage_(2009_film)[/url]
    Outrage is a 2009 American documentary film written and directed by Kirby Dick. The film presents a narrative discussing the hypocrisy of individuals purported in the documentary to be closeted politicians who promote anti-gay legislation.

    the fun starts @ 4:50



    and here's a guest editorial by Michael Rajner, a Democratic activist from Fort Lauderdale, who serves as the legislative director for the Florida GLBT Democratic Caucus and was the GLBT Representative on the Florida Democratic Party's Platform Committee.

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/a-gay-problem-for-charlie-crist/2119216
    ...The upcoming Kennedy King Dinner, the Hillsborough County Democratic Executive Committee's major fundraising event, will now be perpetuating homophobia and giving it credibility and a platform to speak in Democratic circles...

    ...The leadership of the Hillsborough County Democratic Executive Committee should be ashamed of themselves for their refusing to have Crist speak on LGBT­issues before next week's Kennedy King Dinner. With each movement and organization, there are always dark days. In my mind, this is certainly among those dark days. Its sad day when a Democratic group is so blatantly insensitive to a key constituency group of the Democratic Party who is simply asking for equal rights...
  • mybud

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    Jan 03, 2014 5:35 AM GMT
    Crist will beat Scott easily....
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    Jan 03, 2014 11:48 AM GMT
    I'm 4 Charlie!
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    Jan 03, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
    Who are the Dems in primary besides Charlie? I know Alex Sink is the Dem for Congress in the special election to fill CW Youngs seat.
  • TroyAthlete

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    Jan 03, 2014 2:32 PM GMT
    heureux_l_homme saidRick Scott is very unpopular, but there are enough Tea Party dolts to ensure Republicans will be stuck with him.


    I heard they're trying to draft their hero, George Zimmerman.
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    Jan 03, 2014 3:28 PM GMT
    TroyAthlete said
    heureux_l_homme saidRick Scott is very unpopular, but there are enough Tea Party dolts to ensure Republicans will be stuck with him.


    I heard they're trying to draft their hero, George Zimmerman.



    Then he will be a two time loser!!