This is where Madonna succeeds and most of the competition fails: she manages to take things to the electronic arena and somehow still keep an incredible beat to her music. I can't stand her, honestly: she's rude and has a major superiority complex, but there is no denying that she can make incredible music. This is how she has managed to stay relevant for so long.
Ummmm..........did you hear Hard Candy? Not so great. I feel I wasted my money on that album personally. I mean, shit, the only way that "Give It To Me" ended up sounding good is that Paul Oakenfold remixed it, and gave it an entirely new feel.
I'd also have to disagree that Womanizer doesn't have a coherent beat or sound. Every time I hear it, it catches me. Makes me want to dance.
But, music is very subjective. So, we'll probably have to end up agreeing to disagree.
I was more thinking along the lines of Confessions. I haven't really sat down and listened to Hard Candy though, so you might be right there (I only have heard a select few tracks, which though I liked a lot I can't judge the entire album on). I'm talking about her work in general though. She has had a long standing career for a very good reason.
I don't know, I think womanizer is horribly boring. You're right that it's very subjective but to me, personally, it has no tune. I know Britney is capable of making good music: Toxic and Slave for You are proof of that. Those songs, specially as far as the music itself goes, are absolutely out of this world even all these years later.
Womanizer sounds like a jumble of noises. I hear it and I picture a bunch of kids banging on trash cans and using toys as instruments. It's not music to me at all. Throw in the fact that the lyrics are simple and plain, with the fact that her voiced is overly stylized and you basically have a song that I consider to be a combination of all the worst things pop music has seen in recent years.
Womanizer was a really bad choice for her first "hit." It doesn't do justice to the rest of her album.
Keep in mind I'm not attacking her album overall. I think it's a really good one (one of her best ones, definitely better than her last). It's that one song in and of itself that I simply dislike because of the direction it's taking. I hope pop music steers clear of going that far with electronic sound.
Although to be honest, I think Gaga has taken names and kicked ass more than any of the established pop celebrities have in recent years. Lady Gaga is pop music with an electronic style done properly. But that's a whole 'nother discussion.