Trans fats: FDA moves to reduce artery-clogger trans fats in processed foods

  • metta

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    Nov 08, 2013 2:26 AM GMT
    Trans fats: FDA moves to reduce artery-clogger in processed foods

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/health&id=9316987
  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 08, 2013 4:02 PM GMT
    I heard this yesterday. I don't eat a lot of processed foods but the NPR report shocked me. I may be getting them in restaurants and some foods that I wouldn't have expected. Didn't the EU ban them some time ago? If so, how to substitute shouldn't be a mystery. Good for the FDA.
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    Nov 08, 2013 4:06 PM GMT
    This could effect my job choices here soon. What can I sell with a clear conscious.
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    Nov 08, 2013 4:12 PM GMT
    How did they get "generally recognized as safe" status in the first place? Was there science behind that determination?

    Engineered fats were used in food because they are shelf-stable. That is, because of the hydrogenation they are highly-resistant to oxidation, which means they do not spoil at room temperature even over extended periods of time. This allows manufacturers to make and ship things that can be sent over large distances without refrigeration and will sit for months or even years on a shelf without degrading.

    That also means your body can't digest them properly (if at all) - and lead to heart disease
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    Nov 08, 2013 6:39 PM GMT
    somersault saidHow did they get "generally recognized as safe" status in the first place? Was there science behind that determination?

    Engineered fats were used in food because they are shelf-stable. That is, because of the hydrogenation they are highly-resistant to oxidation, which means they do not spoil at room temperature even over extended periods of time. This allows manufacturers to make and ship things that can be sent over large distances without refrigeration and will sit for months or even years on a shelf without degrading.

    That also means your body can't digest them properly (if at all) - and lead to heart disease


    My professor would've been proud! She also said they sometimes use trans fats for consistency. I love professors <3

    Somersault this is the first post I read that wasn't a witty remark. I'm still waiting to see pictures where you have some crème filling on the side of your mouth at a bus stop icon_wink.gif (kidding).
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    Nov 08, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    Don't hold your breath waiting until trans-fats are banned- The FDA proposed in 1999 that food labels should disclose the amount of trans-fat (because everyone already knew it was poisonous), but they did not get around to adopting a regulation until 7 years later- and even then, they allowed companies to lie about the presence of trans fats - if it was less than one gram per serving they were permitted to state that there were Zero trans-fats in the food. That's because of course no child ever ate more than one cookie or twinkie at a time; right?
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    Nov 08, 2013 10:52 PM GMT
    This is off topic, but BEWARE of packaging. Pepperidge Farm will put "Hearty Bread" on a nice green label and I know their ingredients are subpar. Yet, Arnold's bread may not look as healthy via marketing/packaging BUT they don't contain trans fats or high fructose corn syrup.
  • Markguy

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    Nov 09, 2013 2:04 AM GMT
    It's not rocket science. Eat natural, organic meats and wild-caught fish. Whole vegetables and fruits. Nuts. Maybe some occasional whole grains.
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    Nov 09, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
    I thought most people avoided these as is? Since your body can't actually digest them. I didn't even think any food had it anymore.
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    Nov 09, 2013 4:10 AM GMT
    Dude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant
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    Nov 09, 2013 4:24 AM GMT
    From the article:

    "The agency says since trans fat content information began appearing in the nutrition facts label of foods in 2006, trans fat intake in American consumers has declined from 4.6 grams per day in 2003 to about 1 gram per day in 2012."

    So their program worked. Consumer education worked. Whatever is remaining is people choosing their behavior against their own interests. In America as founded, it is not the government's role to interfere with this.

    Jeeze this sort of stuff ticks me off.
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    Nov 09, 2013 5:29 AM GMT
    The government is in the business of protecting us from ourselves......unless it's cigarettes. Then the lobby is strong enough.
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    Nov 09, 2013 5:32 AM GMT
    metta8 saidTrans fats: FDA moves to reduce artery-clogger in processed foods

    http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/health&id=9316987


    One more thing big brother has decided for me.

  • metta

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    Nov 09, 2013 5:49 AM GMT
    Well, it is one way to reduce health care costs. Maybe what they should do is tax these ingredients to pay for the additional health care costs that they create. But then who is going to pay $10 for a bag of nasty chips? We all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy.
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    Nov 09, 2013 6:15 AM GMT
    tantiboh saidDude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant


    "dude" that's bullshit - first they allow you to eat poison, then they ban it = typical bullshit
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    Nov 09, 2013 6:56 AM GMT
    metta8 saidWell, it is one way to reduce health care costs. Maybe what they should do is tax these ingredients to pay for the additional health care costs that they create. But then who is going to pay $10 for a bag of nasty chips? We all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy.


    Well yeah, we all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy, if it's socialized.

    So we're moving into a world where I, as a citizen in the majority or a bureaucrat with dubious data, can tell you how to eat, act, behave, what your hobbies are gonna be, etc. all because I'm paying for your healthcare.

    You can't have a cheesecake. You might eat too much, get fat, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.You can't play sports. You might injure yourself, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.

    That's where we're headed.

    What happened to personal responsibility? I choose to get fat, I pay for the health consequences. We're working on getting rid of the consequences, and the only way to do that is to get rid of the choice.

    That's revolution territory.
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    Nov 09, 2013 6:58 AM GMT
    tantiboh saidFrom the article:

    "The agency says since trans fat content information began appearing in the nutrition facts label of foods in 2006, trans fat intake in American consumers has declined from 4.6 grams per day in 2003 to about 1 gram per day in 2012."

    So their program worked. Consumer education worked. Whatever is remaining is people choosing their behavior against their own interests. In America as founded, it is not the government's role to interfere with this.

    Jeeze this sort of stuff ticks me off.



    The FDA's main objective in my opinion is to make a profit. I wouldn't trust them as an "all knowing source" as far as my health is concerned. Other countries use different dyes, real sugar, and other preservatives to keep their food/population healthy. The only reason we use these subpar ingredients is to cut costs -- plain and simple. I'm not saying every child has a reaction to certain dyes in food, but if it's 1 in 1000, and it so happens to affect my "child" I'd be pissed off. Especially when it's been banned in other countries, that use all natural dyes from foods. such as beets or cranberries ex. Nutri-Grain Bars (not all that healthy to begin with anyway).

    As far as trans fats and high fructose corn syrup, it's not healthy for anyone and it's not even "real food". If you want a candy bar great, but companies should replace high fructose corn syrup with sugar, but it's not a profitable.

    And why is the Food and Drug Administration one entity. They should be separate to avoid any conflict of interests, in my opinion.

    I just keep quiet and make wise decisions for myself. I don't feel like mysteriously dying for speaking out against the FDA lol. Like most things it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing. I still believe the U.S.A. is one of the best places to live!

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    Nov 09, 2013 6:58 AM GMT
    groundcombat saidThe government is in the business of protecting us from ourselves......unless it's cigarettes. Then the lobby is strong enough.


    No. That's not how government in America was envisioned. If you want a government that is in the business of protecting us from ourselves, you first have to destroy America as it was founded.
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    Nov 09, 2013 7:00 AM GMT
    tantiboh said
    metta8 saidWell, it is one way to reduce health care costs. Maybe what they should do is tax these ingredients to pay for the additional health care costs that they create. But then who is going to pay $10 for a bag of nasty chips? We all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy.


    Well yeah, we all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy, if it's socialized.

    So we're moving into a world where I, as a citizen in the majority or a bureaucrat with dubious data, can tell you how to eat, act, behave, what your hobbies are gonna be, etc. all because I'm paying for your healthcare.

    You can't have a cheesecake. You might eat too much, get fat, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.You can't play sports. You might injure yourself, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.

    That's where we're headed.

    What happened to personal responsibility? I choose to get fat, I pay for the health consequences. We're working on getting rid of the consequences, and the only way to do that is to get rid of the choice.

    That's revolution territory.


    I think you've had quite enough cheesecake
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    Nov 09, 2013 7:02 AM GMT
    somersault said
    tantiboh said
    metta8 saidWell, it is one way to reduce health care costs. Maybe what they should do is tax these ingredients to pay for the additional health care costs that they create. But then who is going to pay $10 for a bag of nasty chips? We all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy.


    Well yeah, we all pay more for health care when others don't eat healthy, if it's socialized.

    So we're moving into a world where I, as a citizen in the majority or a bureaucrat with dubious data, can tell you how to eat, act, behave, what your hobbies are gonna be, etc. all because I'm paying for your healthcare.

    You can't have a cheesecake. You might eat too much, get fat, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.You can't play sports. You might injure yourself, and then we'll all be paying more for health care.

    That's where we're headed.

    What happened to personal responsibility? I choose to get fat, I pay for the health consequences. We're working on getting rid of the consequences, and the only way to do that is to get rid of the choice.

    That's revolution territory.


    I think you've had quite enough cheesecake


    lol I love the ad hominem deflection. Simply brilliant.
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    Nov 09, 2013 2:29 PM GMT
    tantiboh saidDude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant


    The government has a right to do this and it is in the Constitution where it says the government has to look out for the general welfare of the citizens.
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    tantiboh saidDude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant


    The government has a right to do this and it is in the Constitution where it says the government has to look out for the general welfare of the citizens.


    Wow. OK, have fun with that. Ima go to my mountain hideout with my guns and beans.
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    Nov 09, 2013 3:57 PM GMT
    tantiboh said
    VillageMike said
    tantiboh saidDude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant


    The government has a right to do this and it is in the Constitution where it says the government has to look out for the general welfare of the citizens.


    Wow. OK, have fun with that. Ima go to my mountain hideout with my guns and beans.


    The US government previously forced McDonald's to use vegetable oils/trans fats from what we now know is healthier beef fat - and more delicious oils. I have to wonder who in government should be held responsible for what should be and should have been individual choice.
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    Nov 09, 2013 4:34 PM GMT
    tantiboh said
    VillageMike said
    tantiboh saidDude. I generally don't eat that crap, but what about freedom? What business has the FDA got telling me what I can or cannot eat?

    Let's be honest: it tastes good. If I want to splurge on some french fries, I know what I'm doing to myself. Why is the government in the business of protecting me from me?

    /rant


    The government has a right to do this and it is in the Constitution where it says the government has to look out for the general welfare of the citizens.


    Wow. OK, have fun with that. Ima go to my mountain hideout with my guns and beans.


    lool you gonna shoot yourself in the head or just fart to death?
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 09, 2013 4:43 PM GMT
    Freedom in America is about the freedom to profit. If you invent something, you are free to find a sweatshop to bring your product to the market. It can be a product that kills everyone. That's none of Uncle Sam's business. Freedom has nothing to do with equality, labor standards, or labeling poison as such. That's just way too European.icon_rolleyes.gif