Why Liberals are so upset these days

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    Nov 11, 2013 1:09 AM GMT
    1. The leader of the left has been exposed as a liar, pure and simple. Even left friendly NBC reported the White House knew full well the situation and decided to lie.

    2. Obama has tried to cover his lie with even more blatant lies and it's quite transparent.

    3. The attempts to cover for him are widely seen as absurd.

    4. The loyal block of younger voters have been screwed and they see it.

    5. It has become widely apparent that the only way liberal policies can be implemented is through a campaign of deceit and backroom deals.

    6. Jimmy Carter was widely seen as incompetent but not morally derelict. He set liberalism back for years.

    7. This administration is being seen by more as malevolent. We could see liberalism setback for a generation, and that's what they fear most.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:13 AM GMT
    Aristoshark saidWow.
    You're really trapped in some parallel universe.
    The country is moving sharply left. Apparently Faux Noise doesn't cover that.

    Keep drinking the Kool Aid.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:17 AM GMT
    Democrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race isn't quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:21 AM GMT
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. In the race for governor, the Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.

    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly closed the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:23 AM GMT
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
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    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:25 AM GMT
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:27 AM GMT
    On the contrary I see smart conservatives giving in to the dumbest elements in our country. I'm not too worried about liberals feeling doomed.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:33 AM GMT
    South Beach needs to step away from his computer and his super sized big mac combo meal and turn of Fux News, cause after Tuesdays election results no one but him and his extra large vibrating love toy thinks the right wing is winning anything but swallowing contests at the Minneapolis Airport mens room.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 11, 2013 1:34 AM GMT
    No, it's good to be a democrat right now. The healthcare thing is much ado about nothing. I'm guessing 2014 will be the year the tea party sinks the GOP for the next 4 years.
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    Nov 11, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidNo, it's good to be a democrat right now. The healthcare thing is much ado about nothing. I'm guessing 2014 will be the year the tea party sinks the GOP for the next 4 years.


    This from the clown who declared "the Tea Party cut the (Obamacare) individual mandate!"

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    Nov 11, 2013 1:55 AM GMT
    socalfitness said
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:02 AM GMT
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.


  • HottJoe

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    Nov 11, 2013 2:06 AM GMT
    People want affordable healthcare. Even if they blame Obama, they are still to the left of the rabid nuts in the GOP. Who could republicans even run in a national election? Their base is too narrow and right of the mainstream.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 11, 2013 2:10 AM GMT
    I'm guessing Obama's popularity will rebound by the time he passes the torch to Hillary. And then we'll have two historically significant presidents in a row. icon_smile.gif

    George W. will always be looked back on as a buffoon though.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:11 AM GMT
    musclmed said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.




    McAuliffe's internals showed a tight race and he campaigned according to those, and still won. The public pollsters miscalculated who the libertarian would draw from votes, he clearly drew some from McAuliffe if you look at county results. Plus, lots of Democrats didn't show up to the polls, yet McAuliffe won on crossover support.

    Don't tell me I'm out of context, I know Virginia has plenty of Democratic governors (mostly Dixiecrats), but Republicans won the office by about 20% in 2009, so it's not like Virginia has never had a Republican governor.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:18 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidI'm guessing Obama's popularity will rebound by the time he passes the torch to Hillary. And then we'll have two historically significant presidents in a row. icon_smile.gif

    George W. will always be looked back on as a buffoon though.


    I am just waiting for the "mom and pop" buy your insurance from the government plan you were talking about to come back. Seems like a great deal.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:21 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidPeople want affordable healthcare. Even if they blame Obama, they are still to the left of the rabid nuts in the GOP. Who could republicans even run in a national election? Their base is too narrow and right of the mainstream.


    He says in an effort to convince himself that all is well in liberal-land. icon_razz.gif

    Joe, where's that evidence to back up your claim that "the Tea Party cut the Obamacare individual mandate?"

    Clown.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:22 AM GMT
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    musclmed said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.




    McAuliffe's internals showed a tight race and he campaigned according to those, and still won. The public pollsters miscalculated who the libertarian would draw from votes, he clearly drew some from McAuliffe if you look at county results. Plus, lots of Democrats didn't show up to the polls, yet McAuliffe won on crossover support.

    Don't tell me I'm out of context, I know Virginia has plenty of Democratic governors (mostly Dixiecrats), but Republicans won the office by about 20% in 2009, so it's not like Virginia has never had a Republican governor.

    The analysis from Politico is consistent with what musclmed and I have been saying.

    Why Terry McAuliffe barely won
    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/terry-mcauliffe-virginia-governor-2013-elections-99441.html

    Based on a review of returns, exit polls and conversations with operatives, here are six takeaways from the surprise election of the night:

    Obamacare almost killed McAuliffe.
    Cuccinelli might have won if he had more money.
    It was a base election.
    The gender gap mirrored the presidential.
    Obama himself was a mixed bag.
    The shutdown still hurt Republicans.
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    Nov 11, 2013 12:14 PM GMT
    Virginia Republicans didn't stand a chance.
    Outgoing Gov McDonnell is as corrupt as they come. Cuccinelli was selling out to the same interests.
    E W Jackson is a religious lunatic.

    Nobody voted for McAuliffe without holding his nose. The problem was that the Republicans stunk worse.

    Republicans will win again with pro business candidates who aren't selling out to their buddies. The problem now is finding one.
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:46 PM GMT
    Lifter4ever saidVirginia Republicans didn't stand a chance.
    Outgoing Gov McDonnell is as corrupt as they come. Cuccinelli was selling out to the same interests.
    E W Jackson is a religious lunatic.

    Nobody voted for McAuliffe without holding his nose. The problem was that the Republicans stunk worse.

    Republicans will win again with pro business candidates who aren't selling out to their buddies. The problem now is finding one.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/gop-poised-to-keep-advantage-in-va-house/2013/11/05/0cdd1c80-37e4-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html
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    Nov 11, 2013 2:58 PM GMT
    McAuliffe's big challenge will be to avoid the same corruption scandals that brought down McDonnell and tarnished Cuccinelli.
    Democrats should keep a close watch on him.
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    Nov 11, 2013 5:59 PM GMT
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    Lifter4ever saidVirginia Republicans didn't stand a chance.
    Outgoing Gov McDonnell is as corrupt as they come. Cuccinelli was selling out to the same interests.
    E W Jackson is a religious lunatic.

    Nobody voted for McAuliffe without holding his nose. The problem was that the Republicans stunk worse.

    Republicans will win again with pro business candidates who aren't selling out to their buddies. The problem now is finding one.


    http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/gop-poised-to-keep-advantage-in-va-house/2013/11/05/0cdd1c80-37e4-11e3-80c6-7e6dd8d22d8f_story.html


    That's because our state House is gerrymandered to within an inch of its life. Those of us who live in the areas that are growing and vibrant get pretty sick of the reps from Outer Bumfuckia siphoning off all of our tax dollars and then refusing to spend anything on the things that matter to us. Not likely to change any time soon, though.

    And "liberals" aren't "upset these days." The conservative media echo chamber is a strange, strange thing.
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    Nov 11, 2013 6:12 PM GMT
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    musclmed said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker said
    socalfitness said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.




    McAuliffe's internals showed a tight race and he campaigned according to those, and still won. The public pollsters miscalculated who the libertarian would draw from votes, he clearly drew some from McAuliffe if you look at county results. Plus, lots of Democrats didn't show up to the polls, yet McAuliffe won on crossover support.

    Don't tell me I'm out of context, I know Virginia has plenty of Democratic governors (mostly Dixiecrats), but Republicans won the office by about 20% in 2009, so it's not like Virginia has never had a Republican governor.

    The analysis from Politico is consistent with what musclmed and I have been saying.

    Why Terry McAuliffe barely won
    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/terry-mcauliffe-virginia-governor-2013-elections-99441.html

    Based on a review of returns, exit polls and conversations with operatives, here are six takeaways from the surprise election of the night:

    Obamacare almost killed McAuliffe.
    Cuccinelli might have won if he had more money.
    It was a base election.
    The gender gap mirrored the presidential.
    Obama himself was a mixed bag.
    The shutdown still hurt Republicans.


    If Obamacare was really an issue, it would have tanked McAuliffe, no doubt about it. It was not a base election, because Democratic turnout wasn't that impressive, McAuliffe pulled crossover votes and won because of this.
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    Nov 11, 2013 6:40 PM GMT
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.




    McAuliffe's internals showed a tight race and he campaigned according to those, and still won. The public pollsters miscalculated who the libertarian would draw from votes, he clearly drew some from McAuliffe if you look at county results. Plus, lots of Democrats didn't show up to the polls, yet McAuliffe won on crossover support.

    Don't tell me I'm out of context, I know Virginia has plenty of Democratic governors (mostly Dixiecrats), but Republicans won the office by about 20% in 2009, so it's not like Virginia has never had a Republican governor.

    The analysis from Politico is consistent with what musclmed and I have been saying.

    Why Terry McAuliffe barely won
    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/terry-mcauliffe-virginia-governor-2013-elections-99441.html

    Based on a review of returns, exit polls and conversations with operatives, here are six takeaways from the surprise election of the night:

    Obamacare almost killed McAuliffe.
    Cuccinelli might have won if he had more money.
    It was a base election.
    The gender gap mirrored the presidential.
    Obama himself was a mixed bag.
    The shutdown still hurt Republicans.


    If Obamacare was really an issue, it would have tanked McAuliffe, no doubt about it. It was not a base election, because Democratic turnout wasn't that impressive, McAuliffe pulled crossover votes and won because of this.

    Nope. If you want to believe your own interpretation that's fine but the analysis from Politico and other sources contradict you. Obamacare really was issue and it was significant. It almost cost McAuliffe the election but there were several other factors in place. You're also stating it was not a base election but the facts from Politico and again other analysis contradict you.

    If you want to believe Obamacare is not an issue go right ahead. From several reports Democratic senators facing reelection are extremely concerned. Maybe they don't see it the way you do.
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    Nov 11, 2013 7:17 PM GMT
    socalfitness said
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    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidDemocrats won all three open constitutional offices in swing state Virginia, the Atty. General race is quite decided yet, but it looks like Herring will pull it off. Nothing to be upset about.

    You may be happy but Democrats are plenty worried and that has been reported by Democratic insiders. Democrats far outspent Republicans and had a very large lead. The Republican was also damaged by the government shutdown affecting government workers in north Virginia. The Democrats also had heavy campaign involvement from the Clintons.
    thi
    But despite all that because of Obamacare, the Republican nearly close the gap. You may be happy but the Democrats are plenty worried.


    A win is a win, Democrats simply don't post big wins in off-years, it was a feat that they won the races at all. Off-year elections favor Republicans, but they failed this time.

    If you feel Obamacare is not significantly damaging the Democrats, you're in denial but that's okay.


    If that was true, Republicans would have not lost the races in Virginia. Obamacare not going to damage Democrats in the long run.


    The Virginia races were not indicators at all, in fact the governors race had been predicted to be alot wider in margin. Mcaulliffe had a double digit lead but won with single digits.

    Virginia has a long history of democratic governors. So you are a bit off on context.




    McAuliffe's internals showed a tight race and he campaigned according to those, and still won. The public pollsters miscalculated who the libertarian would draw from votes, he clearly drew some from McAuliffe if you look at county results. Plus, lots of Democrats didn't show up to the polls, yet McAuliffe won on crossover support.

    Don't tell me I'm out of context, I know Virginia has plenty of Democratic governors (mostly Dixiecrats), but Republicans won the office by about 20% in 2009, so it's not like Virginia has never had a Republican governor.

    The analysis from Politico is consistent with what musclmed and I have been saying.

    Why Terry McAuliffe barely won
    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/terry-mcauliffe-virginia-governor-2013-elections-99441.html

    Based on a review of returns, exit polls and conversations with operatives, here are six takeaways from the surprise election of the night:

    Obamacare almost killed McAuliffe.
    Cuccinelli might have won if he had more money.
    It was a base election.
    The gender gap mirrored the presidential.
    Obama himself was a mixed bag.
    The shutdown still hurt Republicans.


    If Obamacare was really an issue, it would have tanked McAuliffe, no doubt about it. It was not a base election, because Democratic turnout wasn't that impressive, McAuliffe pulled crossover votes and won because of this.

    Nope. If you want to believe your own interpretation that's fine but the analysis from Politico and other sources contradict you. Obamacare really was issue and it was significant. It almost cost McAuliffe the election but there were several other factors in place. You're also stating it was not a base election but the facts from Politico and again other analysis contradict you.

    If you want to believe Obamacare is not an issue go right ahead. From several reports Democratic senators facing reelection are extremely concerned. Maybe they don't see it the way you do.


    I'm not going to argue with you, but that fact is, you can't say Republicans somehow won, even though they lost, just because the margin was close. Whatever floats your twisted boat. I'm done.