Vietnam Allows Same Sex Weddings (But Not Legally Recognized)

  • metta

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    Nov 13, 2013 3:46 PM GMT
    Vietnam legalizes gay weddings

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/vietnam-legalizes-gay-weddings131113
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    Nov 13, 2013 8:40 PM GMT
    YAY! Vietnam is a largely Buddhists country! They're not that anti-gay! Even though they're communists/socialists, this is a small step for gay rights over in Southeast Asia! It's only a matter of time before everything becomes legal! icon_cool.gificon_biggrin.gif I want to travel to Vietnam now !!!!
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    Nov 13, 2013 10:20 PM GMT
    If I read the article correctly, this is on the road to but does not legalize marriage for gay people in that such unions still are not legally recognized with all the rights & responsibilities endowed marriages for opposite sex couples.

    This step simply renounces the illegality of ceremonies for same sex partners which at this point are merely symbolic but of no substance with regard to legal standing.
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    Nov 13, 2013 10:30 PM GMT
    ^
    That is correct.
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    Nov 13, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
    Well it is a step in the right direction and they do seem to be working on equality of human rights.

    Differing from Thailand's Theravada Buddhist traditions, the Buddhism of Vietnam derives mainly from the Mahāyāna teachings over which the Dalai Lama has influence.

    Since the science is in on us, where is his voice in this?

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    Nov 13, 2013 11:43 PM GMT
    Vietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.
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    Nov 14, 2013 12:51 AM GMT
    MisterWhatsIt saidVietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.


    Dude, you've a thread loose. Careful not to pull that. All your socks might unwind at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
    The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam, in Vietnam known as the American War, Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Mỹ, Kháng chiến chống Mỹ), also known as the Second Indochina War,[29] was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955[A 1] to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist countries
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:18 AM GMT
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    MisterWhatsIt saidVietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.


    Dude, you've a thread loose. Careful not to pull that. All your socks might unwind at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
    The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam, in Vietnam known as the American War, Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Mỹ, Kháng chiến chống Mỹ), also known as the Second Indochina War,[29] was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955[A 1] to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist countries


    So, I wrote that Vietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago, and then you try to "prove me wrong" by posting something that states that Vietnam was an enemy decades ago!

    #scrambledbrains
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:21 AM GMT
    I haven't been to Vietnam yet. But based on what I've heard from my Vietnamese BF people over there are very homophobic. So this little thing probably won't change much.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:26 AM GMT
    MisterWhatsIt said
    theantijock said
    MisterWhatsIt saidVietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.


    Dude, you've a thread loose. Careful not to pull that. All your socks might unwind at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
    The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam, in Vietnam known as the American War, Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Mỹ, Kháng chiến chống Mỹ), also known as the Second Indochina War,[29] was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955[A 1] to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist countries


    So, I wrote that Vietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago, and then you try to "prove me wrong" by posting something that states that Vietnam was an enemy decades ago!

    #scrambledbrains


    It states that North Vietnam was the enemy of South Vietnam. Between the lines: China was the actual enemy of the U.S.

    Americans were fighting alongside Vietnamese against Chinese and other Vietnamese. The fight was to keep communists out of the South Vietnam, Vietnamese never had any intention to be enemies of the U.S.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:32 AM GMT
    That's really progressive! That says, "Our GOD Loves you, but our government is still run by idiots!" Forthright and Honest!
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:42 AM GMT
    klobasnik said
    MisterWhatsIt said
    theantijock said
    MisterWhatsIt saidVietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.


    Dude, you've a thread loose. Careful not to pull that. All your socks might unwind at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
    The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam, in Vietnam known as the American War, Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Mỹ, Kháng chiến chống Mỹ), also known as the Second Indochina War,[29] was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955[A 1] to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist countries


    So, I wrote that Vietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago, and then you try to "prove me wrong" by posting something that states that Vietnam was an enemy decades ago!

    #scrambledbrains


    It states that North Vietnam was the enemy of South Vietnam. Between the lines: China was the actual enemy of the U.S.

    Americans were fighting alongside Vietnamese against Chinese and other Vietnamese. The fight was to keep communists out of the South Vietnam, Vietnamese never had any intention to be enemies of the U.S.


    Well of course. Thus the term proxy war.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
    Dying!^^^icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:43 AM GMT
    I'm Vietnamese icon_smile.gif this is such wonderful news.

    Of course there are still people who are homophobics, however that fact is changing right now. There are more and more people accepting homosexuality nowadays.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:46 AM GMT
    _JRQ saidDying!^^^icon_lol.gif


    Hey, I couldn't find a picture of sock puppet tap dancing his idiocy away so I found one of professor sock puppet.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:48 AM GMT
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    _JRQ saidDying!^^^icon_lol.gif


    Hey, I couldn't find a picture of sock puppet tap dancing his idiocy away so I found one of professor sock puppet.
    Why not a pic of the latest hated douche, DarkLite.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:50 AM GMT
    GrumpyKat saidI'm Vietnamese icon_smile.gif this is such wonderful news.

    Of course there are still people who are homophobics, however that fact is changing right now. There are more and more people accepting homosexuality nowadays.


    Congrats to you and yours. I've been following somewhat the gay rights movement in SEA. Seems a race between Vietnam and Thailand as to who will endow us first with human rights.
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:55 AM GMT
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    GrumpyKat saidI'm Vietnamese icon_smile.gif this is such wonderful news.

    Of course there are still people who are homophobics, however that fact is changing right now. There are more and more people accepting homosexuality nowadays.


    Congrats to you and yours. I've been following somewhat the gay rights movement in SEA. Seems a race between Vietnam and Thailand as to who will endow us first with human rights.


    Thank you for your kind words. It's a shame that I am only notified about this news right now when reading this thread, for I am in Canada right now and not been able to keep up with what's going on back in my country. However, I do think that it is Thailand who will be endowing first icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 14, 2013 1:56 AM GMT
    _JRQ saidWhy not a pic of the latest hated douche, DarkLite.


    I caught a glimpse of that but getting involved would be like trying to stop a train wreck. Sometimes all ya can do is watch what gravity does.
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    Nov 14, 2013 2:00 AM GMT
    GrumpyKat saidThank you for your kind words. It's a shame that I am only notified about this news right now when reading this thread, for I am in Canada right now and not been able to keep up with what's going on back in my country. However, I do think that it is Thailand who will be endowing first icon_smile.gif


    You're welcome. I think so too but what I hear coming out of Vietnam is encouraging. Oh, and we all get our news from Metta8. He's like Gay BBC.
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    Nov 14, 2013 2:03 AM GMT
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    _JRQ saidWhy not a pic of the latest hated douche, DarkLite.


    I caught a glimpse of that but getting involved would be like trying to stop a train wreck. Sometimes all ya can do is watch what gravity does.
    True, I should keep away from the assmonkey. He's a waste of energy and logic. He's far from ready to quit his tyraids and join the rest of the human race.
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    Nov 14, 2013 4:33 AM GMT
    I read an article somewhere stated that *The Vietnamese ruling communist party will meet around Feb of 2014 next year to debate and legalize gay marriages. They had 2 gay prides already in Ha Noi, so I think in about 3 months, Vietnam will be the first Asian country to legalize same sex marriages in Asia. The for/approval vote is about 65% (I think).
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    klobasnik said
    MisterWhatsIt said
    theantijock said
    MisterWhatsIt saidVietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago. From what I have read they have turned into a vibrant, wonderful country.


    Dude, you've a thread loose. Careful not to pull that. All your socks might unwind at once.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War
    The Vietnam War (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Việt Nam, in Vietnam known as the American War, Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Mỹ, Kháng chiến chống Mỹ), also known as the Second Indochina War,[29] was a Cold War-era proxy war that occurred in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia from 1 November 1955[A 1] to the fall of Saigon on 30 April 1975. This war followed the First Indochina War and was fought between North Vietnam—supported by China and other communist allies—and the government of South Vietnam—supported by the United States and other anti-communist countries


    So, I wrote that Vietnam is no longer the enemy it was decades ago, and then you try to "prove me wrong" by posting something that states that Vietnam was an enemy decades ago!

    #scrambledbrains


    It states that North Vietnam was the enemy of South Vietnam. Between the lines: China was the actual enemy of the U.S.

    Americans were fighting alongside Vietnamese against Chinese and other Vietnamese. The fight was to keep communists out of the South Vietnam, Vietnamese never had any intention to be enemies of the U.S.


    + 1, Yep Yep Agreed The political war basically Russia/China vs. US/the West. I actually studied Vietnamese history and Vietnam was never intended to fight the US. Ho Chi Minh (the communist northern leader) actually appealed to the US in helping northern Vietnam out of the colonization from the French in 1954 when the country was split up in the 17th parallel near the Imperial city of HUE. Eisenhower, the president at the time, rejected this because the US was a capitalist society on a cold war with the USSR after world war 2. Eventually, the northern Communists turned to China/Russia and other communist countries for support. The Southern Vietnamese government was very pro-democracy, they had support from the US, Canada, Phillipines, Australia, S. Korea....etc. There was a lot of corruption/mess in the south and when the US entered the war, The rest was history. I think it's a tragic war really, both sides US and Vietnam lost huge in money and people. Time will heal all war wounds!
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    Nov 14, 2013 6:12 PM GMT
    It's awesome that Vietnam is not a 'chistian' nation and under the dogmas of catholicism or christian lies and myths.

    The war with Vietnam was started with big business interests (Monsanto made it big with Agent Orange). While Americans opposed the war, big businesses cheer on.