Today is a VERY sad day.

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    Nov 13, 2013 7:54 PM GMT
    Today, November 13, 2013 was supposed to be the release date for my dearest friend, after serving a five year sentence for breaking the jaw of a pervert who had been making sexual advances towards him. Five years is a very long time for a broken jaw...but so it goes in Sweden.
    Instead of being released, he has been remanded over for trial on a completely different (and STUPID) charge.
    Approx. 18 months ago, he was sitting in his room, working on his lap top...back to the door...when this lunatic Muslim ran into his room and stabbed him in the back five times.
    He screamed for help and one of his cel mates came into the room and was immediately stabbed in the stomach three times.
    He was able to wrestle the Muslim Dog to the ground and take the "shiv" away from him. He immediately plunged the "shiv" into the Muslim Dog's chest, killing him instantly.
    BTW, the Muslim Dog was serving a life sentence for stabbing a Catholic Priest 17 times. No capital punishment in Sweden.
    Now, my friend is facing a new trial for being an accessory to the fatal attack on the Muslim Dog....his cel mate is facing a life sentence for second degree manslaughter for (1) Saving my friend's life....AND (2)killing the Muslim Dog during the course of self defense.
    In THIS country, there would be riots in the street...and NOT for the dead Muslim!!!
  • PR_GMR

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    Nov 13, 2013 8:14 PM GMT
    So much wrong with the two posts above, it ain't even funny.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:05 PM GMT
    Jaggal said
    PR_GMR saidSo much wrong with the two posts above, it ain't even funny.


    What don't you like about my statement?


    Your posture of siding with Bashar Al Assad, a monster, on Syria; a man who gases his own people with nerve gas, for starters.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:06 PM GMT
    And with the first post, the recurrent usage of 'Muslim Dog' lets me know something is fishy about the OP's story. There's a lot of anti-muslim bias there.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:22 PM GMT
    PR_GMR, keep sticking your head in the sand and eating the propaganda you are fed about Muslims. If you read foreign news, you would learn that the plague of Islamism is spreading. Also, Western countries with large Islamic communities aren't doing enough to ensure traditional Islamic human rights abuses (FGM etc.) are stopped.

    Also, the choice is between Bashar al Assad and al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra mujahideen (among other jihadist groups.) So don't fault him for siding with Assad. It's kind of a lose-lose.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:31 PM GMT
    PR_GMR saidAnd with the first post, the recurrent usage of 'Muslim Dog' lets me know something is fishy about the OP's story. There's a lot of anti-muslim bias there.

    If the OP has related a true story, it is quite understandable why he should feel so strongly about Muslims and refer to them derisively. However, as politically correct as Swedish law may be in regard to foreign religious believers, and even allowing for some corruption on the part of Swedish prosecutors, I have my doubts that everything happened as the OP said it did.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:35 PM GMT
    That's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:42 PM GMT
    Jaggal saidI will reiterate, Bashar is only the LESSER evil. An ideal ending would be the secular branches of the FSA liberate the whole region, but that will not happen due to Qatar, Turkey and the KSA etc. (America's BFFLs) sponsoring terrorism.

    Obama should have sent a missile to take out Bashar two years ago. (He's a fool when it comes to foreign policy. We could even have blamed the missile strike on someone else.) One can only hope that the rebels win, round up all the members of his government and all the army officers, and then hang them all. Nothing like a clean start.
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    Nov 13, 2013 9:47 PM GMT
    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?

    Based only on my knowledge gained from the Swedish detective TV series, Sebastian Bergman, apparently they do.
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    Nov 14, 2013 7:01 PM GMT
    In response to several posts....
    This occurred just as I stated...I have first hand information not only from my dear friend, who is the victim in this horrific story...but also from the head of the criminal investigation dept. with the Stockholm police.

    Secondly, as to the living conditions in Swedish prisons, they are "lush" compared to the living standards of many, if not MOST of the conditions in the Arab world.
    The cels are spacious with actual furniture...including a bed, not a cot. They also have 45" Bang & Olafsen flat screen TV's and B & O stereos. There are only 15 men to a "pod", with an open kitchen where you may visit whenever you are hungry. There is a library and a gym.
    Believe me?? I really don't care. And for the asking (politely) I can provide pics. They will be sent to your personal profile....I will NOT post them here.
    My friend will be calling me today...at 12:30pm Pacific time.
    I am curious to know how he will react to my creating this post.
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:17 PM GMT
    That is terrible, what ever happened to self defense? What happened to justice?
  • krsraven

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    Nov 14, 2013 11:13 PM GMT
    So sad for your friend :[ but you got a scary law out there that's a lot of sentence for just breaking a jaw.
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    Nov 14, 2013 11:26 PM GMT
    Jaggal saidSad day indeed. At least the other guy is dead. If I had the power, I would help. These are the same terrorists that travel from western Europe to Syria to slit children's throats and, in their mind, commit jihad against Bashar Al Assad and his Government (and anyone who is not an Islamist).


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    Nov 14, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?


    I was thinking the same thing about laptops. Do they have Internet too?
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:02 AM GMT
    I'm very sorry for your friend's extended punishment.

    Having that said:

    1) I have no idea what his religious affiliation has anything to do with this matter.

    2) Swedish laws are VERY strict when it comes to incarcerating people. I was assaulted once, the guy got off with a bill. Five years in a Swedish prison is a very harsh sentence, and I have to say that it sounds very odd that you'd get five years for breaking someone's jaw. Other cases where I've read that people have gotten 5 years in Sweden is e.g. a case where a robber broke into someone's home, stabbed the 77-year-old man several times and robbed him.

    3) I was born in Sweden and I've been raised in its overall mentality, so call me brainwashed, but I think Sweden's decision to exclude capital punishment is an excellent choice.

    4) According to http://www.kriminalvarden.se/Om-Kriminalvarden/Fragor-och-svar/, it varies from prison to prison, but the average cost for a prisoner's food per day (all meals), is around 45 kr (around $6,5).

    5) From the same source, the cells are 10m^2, I'm not sure I'd call that spacious.

    I'm sure you're very angry, and you probably have every right to be so, I'm just curious if all the facts are adding up.

    I'm personally an atheist and frankly, I'm not a fan of any religion. But I dislike fanaticism, in whatever form it may take.
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:04 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?

    Based only on my knowledge gained from the Swedish detective TV series, Sebastian Bergman, apparently they do.


    He not only HAD a laptop, but it is now "state's evidence" due to the fact it is caked in blood from the attack by the Muslim DOG!!
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:10 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?


    I was thinking the same things about laptops. Do they have Internet too?


    No, smart ass, they do NOT have internet except in the library and under supervision.
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    Nov 15, 2013 12:26 AM GMT
    It's a terrible depressing story but *my* curiosity was how anyone can be in prison and sit with his back to the door.
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    Nov 15, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    JohnSpotter saidIt's a terrible depressing story but *my* curiosity was how anyone can be in prison and sit with his back to the door.


    If you read closely to the description of his "cel", you would know that he has regular wooden furniture, a writing desk, a flat screen TV, a flattop AND a key to his "cel".
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    Nov 16, 2013 10:36 PM GMT
    David3000 said
    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?


    I was thinking the same thing about laptops. Do they have Internet too?


    He actually DID have internet access three years ago...that's where we met!!! In he chat room on RJ...not the when where guys sit around a j/o for 12 hours at a time.
    Communicating by telephone is MUCH better anyway!!
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    Nov 16, 2013 11:12 PM GMT
    xrichx saidThat's amazing! They allow laptops in Swedish prisons?


    good point....things that make you go hmmm???
  • Import

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    Nov 17, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    today has been a great day for me. icon_biggrin.gif

    not sad at all.
    I had a great breakfast. Went to the San Diego zoo with my future husband. Did some hiking in Dana Point in OC...watched the sun set, had an awesome dinner with a good Malbec wine



    sucks your friends life is like totally not like that.
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    Nov 17, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    Import saidtoday has been a great day for me. icon_biggrin.gif

    not sad at all.
    I had a great breakfast. Went to the San Diego zoo with my future husband. Did some hiking in Dana Point in OC...watched the sun set, had an awesome dinner with good a good Malbec wine



    sucks your friends life is like totally not like that.


    Hahaha I fucking love you Import.