Federal District Court Declares A Religious Income Tax Exemption Unconstitutional

  • metta

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    Nov 23, 2013 4:03 AM GMT
    Federal District Court Declares A Religious Income Tax Exemption Unconstitutional

    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking-federal-district-court-declares-a-religious-income-tax-exemption-unconstitutional/politics/2013/11/22/79158
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 23, 2013 7:55 AM GMT
    Sounds good, though I hate to see the separation of church and state get muddled too much. As it is, priests push candidates on people and constantly involve themselves in the public and private sectors.... I'd be wary if their tax paying status makes it more conducive for them to get political and change laws in a way that might adversely affect nonreligious people.
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    Nov 24, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
    It's about time
  • Suetonius

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    Nov 24, 2013 11:27 PM GMT
    The decision will be overturned on appeal.
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    Nov 25, 2013 4:26 PM GMT
    Guys, guys, guys if you call America home? You live in the worlds largest religious/christian county, that is polluting the rest of the world with your home grown religions; look how big and powerful the Church Of Jesus Christ has grown, by now being a international religion, that America once wanted exterminated. Even Obama has declared: America is one nation under God.

    It really is nothing more than lip service that religion and State are separate in the US, as they are really entwined.

    But as the saying goes: if you don't like it, you can always leave.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 25, 2013 6:37 PM GMT
    somersault saidIt's about time

    The separation of church and state protects us from religious leaders. Do you really want to bring them into the folds of public life and policy making? If churches are treated like corporations, their lobbyists will make this country hell on earth for nonreligious people.
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    Nov 25, 2013 7:11 PM GMT
    HottJoe said
    somersault saidIt's about time

    The separation of church and state protects us from religious leaders. Do you really want to bring them into the folds of public life and policy making? If churches are treated like corporations, their lobbyists will make this country hell on earth for nonreligious people.


    Seperation of church and state has nothing to do with tax policy and religion has been in the folds of public life and policy making for 220 years.

    So yes, tax them.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 25, 2013 7:37 PM GMT
    somersault said
    HottJoe said
    somersault saidIt's about time

    The separation of church and state protects us from religious leaders. Do you really want to bring them into the folds of public life and policy making? If churches are treated like corporations, their lobbyists will make this country hell on earth for nonreligious people.


    Seperation of church and state has nothing to do with tax policy and religion has been in the folds of public life and policy making for 220 years.

    So yes, tax them.

    Do churches have lobbyists?
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    Nov 25, 2013 7:55 PM GMT
    God's Lobbyists: The Hidden Realm of Religious Influence


    http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/07/gods-lobbyists.html

    National Association of Evangelicals
    http://www.nae.net/government-relations

    The American Christian Lobbyists Association
    http://www.americancla.org/acla_home_page.html

    Survey: Number of Religious Lobbying Groups in D.C. Is Up Fivefold

    "Pew researchers discovered that the number of religious groups lobbying politicians in Washington, D.C., has increased 500 percent in the past four decades, from fewer than 40 in 1970 to more than 200 today. With more than 1,000 lobbyists vying for the ears of Congress members, the groups together spend more than $390 million a year to shape not only public policy but also the political process itself.

    Roman Catholic, Protestant and Jewish advocacy groups make up 58 percent of the groups in the study. One in 6 represents smaller religious communities, including the Baha’is, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims and Sikhs, while the remaining quarter studied are multifaith or representative of no specific religious tradition. Just over 40 percent of the firms lobby for individuals rather than institutions or specific religious denominations."

    http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/pew_religious_lobbying_in_washington_dc_20111123


    State/Church FAQ
    http://ffrf.org/faq/state-church/item/14005-churches-and-political-lobbying-activities