Possible to gain mass without eating a whole lot?

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    Nov 26, 2013 4:36 AM GMT
    So I am looking to gain a little mass (muscle) by working out. I have an extremely fast metabolism so that makes me kind of wary about going to the gym more often. I am already really lean but I want to gain some results! If I don't eat a whole lot, will I still see results (just maybe over a longer duration of time)?
  • popobtc

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    Nov 26, 2013 4:52 AM GMT
    Your post confuses me...Where do you think the nutrients to build mass will come from if you don't eat more food?

    Workout / Increase food intake = Mass gain
    Workout / Maintain or decrease food intake = Mass loss

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    Nov 26, 2013 5:01 AM GMT
    Yeah I probably did not word that right. What I was asking is if I just workout but not intake a HUGE amount of food, like maybe just a little more, will I still see results?
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    Nov 26, 2013 7:07 AM GMT
    Eat more carbs before and after your workouts. Eat lean and light rest of the day.
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    Nov 26, 2013 3:10 PM GMT
    Yes. You will gain a little bit, and overtime (years) gain a few pounds..
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    Nov 26, 2013 3:58 PM GMT
    I think you're asking if you can gain without a huge VOLUME of food.
    The answer is YES.

    EAT HEALTHY FATS.
    1 Tbsp of Peanut Butter gives you 94 calories
    1 Tbsp of Olive Oil gives you 120 calories

    All nuts, nut butters and oils will give you the boost in calories and energy you need to gain extra muscle.
    Nuts also give you protein, about 4 grams per Tbsp.

    Oils, especially olive oil, are easy to add to your salads, cooked veggies, rice, potatoes and pasta.

    5 Tbsps of oil will equal the calories of an extra meal with very minimal volume.
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    Nov 26, 2013 5:58 PM GMT
    JoePK saidI think you're asking if you can gain without a huge VOLUME of food.
    The answer is YES.

    EAT HEALTHY FATS.
    1 Tbsp of Peanut Butter gives you 94 calories
    1 Tbsp of Olive Oil gives you 120 calories

    All nuts, nut butters and oils will give you the boost in calories and energy you need to gain extra muscle.
    Nuts also give you protein, about 4 grams per Tbsp.

    Oils, especially olive oil, are easy to add to your salads, cooked veggies, rice, potatoes and pasta.

    5 Tbsps of oil will equal the calories of an extra meal with very minimal volume.


    Except you'll be lacking some awesome nutrients besides fat if you decide to swallow 5 tbsps of oil as a meal lol. Please don't do that.
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    Nov 26, 2013 8:31 PM GMT
    Nebraskakid467 saidSo I am looking to gain a little mass (muscle) by working out. I have an extremely fast metabolism so that makes me kind of wary about going to the gym more often. I am already really lean but I want to gain some results! If I don't eat a whole lot, will I still see results (just maybe over a longer duration of time)?


    Eat 1 gram of protein per pound of weight you want to eventually weigh. If you're lean with a high metabolism, you'll want to pair that with high carbohydrate intake to spike your blood sugar and force your body to shuttle those nutrients into your cells.

    Is it possible to gain as a hard gainer without eating dramatically more than normal? Yes. With steroids icon_razz.gif.

    Otherwise no: a lean guy has to eat significantly more than an average or bulky guy to gain mass.
  • An0n12

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    Nov 26, 2013 8:39 PM GMT
    Larkin said
    Nebraskakid467 saidSo I am looking to gain a little mass (muscle) by working out. I have an extremely fast metabolism so that makes me kind of wary about going to the gym more often. I am already really lean but I want to gain some results! If I don't eat a whole lot, will I still see results (just maybe over a longer duration of time)?


    Eat 1 gram of protein per pound of weight you want to eventually weigh. If you're lean with a high metabolism, you'll want to pair that with high carbohydrate intake to spike your blood sugar and force your body to shuttle those nutrients into your cells.

    Is it possible to gain as a hard gainer without eating dramatically more than normal? Yes. With steroids icon_razz.gif.

    Otherwise no: a lean guy has to eat significantly more than an average or bulky guy to gain mass.


    X2 for what Larkin said. Diet is key annd essential if you're trying to gain or lose weight of any type. You'll have to make sure you are eating enough protein and good carbohydrates sources such as brown rice or sweet potatoes to grow more muscle. Work out heavy, eat heavy, sleep heavy, and fuck plenty!
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    Nov 26, 2013 8:46 PM GMT
    The only thing I can add here that hasn't been said is that building muscle is an experiment. Each person is different, though there are common themes.

    Figure out what works for you: work out a certain amount each week, and consume a certain amount of calories with a certain amount of protein/carbs/fat. If you like the progress you're making after a few weeks, keep it up. If not, adjust.

    For me, if I eat 3000 calories a day, I will gain muscle slowly. Much more than that, and I get fat rather quickly. (I'm 6' 235) For some guys, it takes 4000-5000 calories a day before they start gaining muscle.
  • The_Guruburu

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    Nov 26, 2013 8:50 PM GMT
    muscleguy99 said
    For some guys, it takes 4000-5000 calories a day before they start gaining muscle.


    Good lord, I'm struggling to eat up to 3,000 calories. I would explode (or just give up) if I had to eat that much.
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    Nov 26, 2013 8:52 PM GMT
    You have to eat to make gains. There's no way around it.

    Putting mono and poly fats into your diet is an excellent heart-healthy idea.
  • An0n12

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    Nov 26, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
    The_Guruburu said
    muscleguy99 said
    For some guys, it takes 4000-5000 calories a day before they start gaining muscle.


    Good lord, I'm struggling to eat up to 3,000 calories. I would explode (or just give up) if I had to eat that much.


    You'd be surprised how easy it gets though it's sort of a catch 22, you have to eat like you are a huge bastard to become a huge bastard even if you can't stomach enough food like a huge bastard.
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    Nov 26, 2013 8:55 PM GMT
    I knew this one guy that did need to eat that much. He had a very high metabolism, but ended up getting really muscular as he increased his calories and the frequency/duration of his workouts. And, he stayed lean. (the jerk)
  • An0n12

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    Nov 26, 2013 9:13 PM GMT
    muscleguy99 saidI knew this one guy that did need to eat that much. He had a very high metabolism, but ended up getting really muscular as he increased his calories and the frequency/duration of his workouts. And, he stayed lean. (the jerk)


    Haha some people are just lucky in genetics like that. I've always had a bit of fat on me even when I was skinny(fat) in 2006. Diet is the most important thing no matter the goal, I cut down about 6% bodyfat in three months last year just by alerting my food and taking up minor cardio.
  • nomad4life

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    Nov 26, 2013 9:30 PM GMT
    When you're eating those high carb meals, add a tbsp of vinegar to it. It kind of shuttles the carbs away from fat cells in the mid region to cells all over the body (just mix it in the food, don't take it straight up like I did the first time).

    Another trick I heard for high metabolism people like us is to cut down on cardio. I recently started this so I don't know how effective it is, but just a thought.
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    Nov 26, 2013 9:32 PM GMT
    The main characteristics of an Ectomorph are that he lacks bodyfat and muscle tissue. He is thin, has little muscle mass, has trouble putting on weight and in order to gain some muscle mass it takes a long time. He can usually eat everything in sight and still stay thin. If you are an Ectomorph your main focus should be on increasing your weight. You may benefit from heavy weight lifting so to elicit muscle growth. To recover and grow from these sets and to preserve your energy and calorie expenditure, longer rest periods should be taken and your pace should match that as well. Your training frequency needs to be less frequent, about 3 times a week, and your cardiovascular training should be minimal if any at all. This will allow all of your calories eaten to be used toward normal bodily functions and increasing muscle mass and growth. Afterall, your body fat will most likely be low if you fall in this category. Ectomorphs can get away with eating more calories than the other categories and so they must ensure that they eat well above maintenance calories daily in order to make some progress with their physiques. Eating regularly every 2-2 ½ hours is ideal and they should eat meals that contain Protein, Carbs and healthy Fats. One should always focus on healthy natural whole foods. However since the metabolism of someone who is an Ectomorph is considered to be fast, they can get away with eating “junk food” more often than the rest. Eating a little “dirty” might also serve them as a way to keep calories high. If they happen to increase body fat, they can drop that very easily once they decrease there calories. - See more at: http://www.machinemuscle.com/are-you-an-ectomorph-mesomorph-or-endomorph-find-out-now/#sthash.pUC3VokX.dpuf
  • The_Guruburu

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    Nov 26, 2013 10:22 PM GMT
    friendlyface08 saidWhen you're eating those high carb meals, add a tbsp of vinegar to it. It kind of shuttles the carbs away from fat cells in the mid region to cells all over the body (just mix it in the food, don't take it straight up like I did the first time).

    Another trick I heard for high metabolism people like us is to cut down on cardio. I recently started this so I don't know how effective it is, but just a thought.


    I hadn't heard about vinegar before. I'll try it. And yes, cardio pretty much negates any improvements I make, so other than biking (my form of transportation), I don't do any. I lost so much weight a few years back when I did this cardio class. It was fun and I was more fit, but everyone kept worrying about my size and it wasn't until noticed my pants were way too loose on me that I quit. I've been struggling to put the weight back on ever since, and grad school isn't helping one bit!
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    Nov 26, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    So true I had to eat to the 5000cal mark to make gains its not easy that for sure and can be a bit exspensive to and I haven even been sick in the past from the intake but you get used to it and end up freaky out people around you from how much you can eat lol
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    Nov 26, 2013 10:41 PM GMT
    Wow you guys are so awesome, thank you all for the comments!! I will definitely try this out starting tomorrow and let you all know about all of the developments over time. So I guess I have figured out I do need to eat a shit ton...
  • nomad4life

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    Nov 26, 2013 10:57 PM GMT
    Nebraskakid467 saidWow you guys are so awesome, thank you all for the comments!! I will definitely try this out starting tomorrow and let you all know about all of the developments over time. So I guess I have figured out I do need to eat a shit ton...


    Shit ton. Not shit. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 26, 2013 10:58 PM GMT
    crystalballer said
    JoePK saidI think you're asking if you can gain without a huge VOLUME of food.
    The answer is YES.

    EAT HEALTHY FATS.
    1 Tbsp of Peanut Butter gives you 94 calories
    1 Tbsp of Olive Oil gives you 120 calories

    All nuts, nut butters and oils will give you the boost in calories and energy you need to gain extra muscle.
    Nuts also give you protein, about 4 grams per Tbsp.

    Oils, especially olive oil, are easy to add to your salads, cooked veggies, rice, potatoes and pasta.

    5 Tbsps of oil will equal the calories of an extra meal with very minimal volume.


    Except you'll be lacking some awesome nutrients besides fat if you decide to swallow 5 tbsps of oil as a meal lol. Please don't do that.


    FOR CLARIFICATION: Don't swallow olive oil INSTEAD OF A MEAL.
    ADD THE OILS TO YOUR MEALS TO BOOST THE CALORIES.
  • The_Guruburu

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    Nov 27, 2013 12:51 AM GMT
    JoePK said
    crystalballer said
    JoePK saidI think you're asking if you can gain without a huge VOLUME of food.
    The answer is YES.

    EAT HEALTHY FATS.
    1 Tbsp of Peanut Butter gives you 94 calories
    1 Tbsp of Olive Oil gives you 120 calories

    All nuts, nut butters and oils will give you the boost in calories and energy you need to gain extra muscle.
    Nuts also give you protein, about 4 grams per Tbsp.

    Oils, especially olive oil, are easy to add to your salads, cooked veggies, rice, potatoes and pasta.

    5 Tbsps of oil will equal the calories of an extra meal with very minimal volume.


    Except you'll be lacking some awesome nutrients besides fat if you decide to swallow 5 tbsps of oil as a meal lol. Please don't do that.


    FOR CLARIFICATION: Don't swallow olive oil INSTEAD OF A MEAL.
    ADD THE OILS TO YOUR MEALS TO BOOST THE CALORIES.


    But what if I'm craving olive oil soup?
  • An0n12

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    Nov 27, 2013 1:50 AM GMT
    Nebraskakid467 saidWow you guys are so awesome, thank you all for the comments!! I will definitely try this out starting tomorrow and let you all know about all of the developments over time. So I guess I have figured out I do need to eat a shit ton...


    Good luck man and stick with it!
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    Nov 27, 2013 1:59 AM GMT
    i have been stuck at 155, at the most 157 for the last 10 years. i also have a high metabolism so struggling to gain weight is a challenge for me. i've tried various things such as creatine and mass gainers, which didn't help at all. on top of that, i eat a ton everyday. my advice is to get steroids (yea right) or just let age take its toll. everybody gets fat when they age lol.

    also if you do find an answer, i will be happy to try out ur remedy.