Unprotected gay sex will hurt us all

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    Nov 27, 2013 9:48 PM GMT
    Really for a trolling? (I used "destroy" in the original title)

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/28/health/unprotected-sex-among-gay-men-on-the-rise-health-officials-say.html?_r=0

    Exaggeration? The rise in BAREBACK sex in the porn industry is all too evident. All they care about is viewers and ratings. YES, HIV is treatable and you probably won't die. You will probably live a relatively normal life.

    BUT FOR THE LIFE OF ME, gay men are playing Russian roulette!

    "The same trend has recently been documented among gay men in Canada, Britain, the Netherlands, France and Australia, heightening concerns among public health officials worldwide."

    If this doesn't concern you, I don't know what is going to happen. Gay men being barred from blood donation! Or shamed and humiliated. Oh, we already are. WE gay men don't care what others think! UNTIL WE DIE ONE BY ONE! We have fought for gay rights and gay marriage and to hear unprotected sex among gay men rising makes my blood boil.

    I am not trying to tear apart the community but read this:
    http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1366153/record-breaking-numbers-hiv-cases-recorded-hong-kong-gay-men-still
    //“We’ve had record-breaking numbers each quarter this year. It’s very likely the numbers this year will surpass last year,” said Dr Wong Ka-hing, consultant for the Health Department’s special preventive programme, as he released data for the third quarter’s new infection rates.//

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/27/usa-hiv-study-idUSL2N0JC1SR20131127

    I will never defend BAREBACK and until HIV levels goes down, HIV activism will still go on!

    I am angry.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/11/27/us-aids-europe-idUKBRE9AQ07R20131127
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    Nov 27, 2013 9:58 PM GMT

    So finally, this time, you're not trolling.

    Yes, it's very serious and the costs if it continues could be mind numbing. Those drugs are not cheap. Nor are the treatments etc if you have complications. Along with that is a new strain of HIV still in Russia, and antibiotic resistant strains of other bugs.

    Not to mention other STDs that cost money to treat.
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    Nov 27, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
    thebearer, this: 'just make sure your ass isn't the one catching the love bug at the end of the day instead of worrying about everyone else.' It doesn't quite work that way, as the costs to treat are a burden on everyone.
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    Nov 27, 2013 10:14 PM GMT
    I am not making people scared, goddammit. It's the reality of the situation. Why is bareback porn so prominent these days?

    Warning, may be NSFW! (not safe for work)
    http://gay.fleshbot.com/5911704/michael-lucas-allegedly-assaulted-after-forcing-performers-into-bareback-contracts

    Demand and supply. The more people watch bareback, the more they deliver. If you don't watch bareback porn, they won't make them. The companies that make bareback sex are doing for their business and the actors are just risking their lives which is their choice. But businesses need to stay afloat! They need to be profitable. They need to attract viewers.

    Life imitates Art and vice versa.

    These are my thoughts only and my opinions. They are not to be treated as facts.
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    Nov 28, 2013 3:59 PM GMT
    I am not gonna lie, I like watching Bareback porn, simply because its more stimulating to the eye and mind. You know the actor penetrating the other actor in the film is enjoying the sensation. Your senses in return are responding to that, making you enjoy it more.

    Although I do watch porn with safe sex, I don't get that same kick I do from bareback.

    Would I apply what I see in bareback porn in my personal life?

    If I am in a monogamous relationship, with someone I know I can trust, we are both tested and we set it straight. If I like you and you are interested in BBing with me, but you still like to stray, let me know so I can at least make an informed decision.

    Sometimes I think part of the reason why persons get infected in relationships, the victim doesn't get to know or understand their partner. If its guy who immediately wants to start off raw with you in the sack, that should raise flags he is likely to do it with anyone.

    Part of the rise for it though is, ARVs are more effective, although expensive can still prolong an individuals life.

    - Sex drive and situation. Gay men look at their life as having limited intimacy and if the opportunity comes up, you are not gonna let anything come in the way of that: Condom or risk of an STD, you want those moments of pleasure even if that someone doesn't love you.

    - Mid-life crisis and living it up, gonna die anyway, might as well fuck my way out of here.

    - He looks healthy, muscles and the whole 9 yards, this guy can't have the virus, look at him!

    - It just feels damn good.

    (Strong Noteicon_smile.gif this is my assumption, I don't practice any of the above, in fact, I am not getting any or even in a relationship with anyone. I just have done some research and analyzing things.
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:27 PM GMT
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.560794

    I just posted this link in another thread. Now there are reports of a rise in HIV in Israeli men.

    "Members of the Israel AIDS Task Force fear a steep rise in HIV infection rates, in light of a recent survey by the organization conducted among members of an Israeli dating site for gays."
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:35 PM GMT
    You have to ask what makes people do things to jeopardize their health. No different than people over eating, smoking, excessive alcohol intake, drugs, no exercise etc. HIV is not alone in all of this, so don't get to wrapped up in it, as it will never end. Each person chooses to live life the way they want to. Education continues to be the best treatment for all.
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:40 PM GMT
    Koaa2 saidYou have to ask what makes people do things to jeopardize their health. No different than people over eating, smoking, excessive alcohol intake, drugs, no exercise etc. HIV is not alone in all of this, so don't get to wrapped up in it, as it will never end. Each person chooses to live life the way they want to. Education continues to be the best treatment for all.


    But some gay men just do not realize that by continuing to be risky and not using condoms they are preventing the gay community to be part of society because of perception. Discrimination will continue. That HIV is a gay disease. That we are slutty and we are perpetuating the idea that gay men can't be in love. If gay marriage had been established early on, there probably would be less promiscuity. The religious right is partly to blame. Ignorance is to blame. Everyone is at fault but gay men must equally step up and promote safer sex. HIV is very relevant in the gay community.
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:53 PM GMT
    All men are sluts, not just gay men. In no way will gay marriage prevent HIV,it may perpetuate it, because they will feel trapped, and go out to get laid on a whim and lust, just like straight men do. There is no one answer, and the people who hate gay men because of HIV, will always hate them.
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:25 AM GMT
    Health is an afterthought for a lot of people, only when they've contracted something does health really become an issue. Before I had sex, I did tons of research about HIV and other STDs, even though I always intended to have protected sex with no exceptions.
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:27 AM GMT
    Koaa2 saidAll men are sluts, not just gay men. In no way will gay marriage prevent HIV,it may perpetuate it, because they will feel trapped, and go out to get laid on a whim and lust, just like straight men do. There is no one answer, and the people who hate gay men because of HIV, will always hate them.


    All men are sluts? Every single man who has even remained celibate? No, you are wrong.
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:27 AM GMT
    Koaa2 saidAll men are sluts, not just gay men. In no way will gay marriage prevent HIV,it may perpetuate it, because they will feel trapped, and go out to get laid on a whim and lust, just like straight men do. There is no one answer, and the people who hate gay men because of HIV, will always hate them.


    Nobody is trapping no one.

    If you don't want a monogamous relationship just say so, and don't pretend you want one .

    No matter how long I've been with a guy I will civilly respect his decision to leave me if he is bored with me, i will gladly take that instead of him cheating on me and jeopardizing my health.

    He cannot have me plus others. It's only me or others. Can I at least have this right?

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    Nov 29, 2013 1:29 AM GMT
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidHealth is an afterthought for a lot of people, only when they've contracted something does health really become an issue. Before I had sex, I did tons of research about HIV and other STDs, even though I always intended to have protected sex with no exceptions.


    How do you think we should reduce HIV transmission rates?
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    Nov 29, 2013 1:36 AM GMT
    FutureBanana said
    Mr_Kyle_Barker saidHealth is an afterthought for a lot of people, only when they've contracted something does health really become an issue. Before I had sex, I did tons of research about HIV and other STDs, even though I always intended to have protected sex with no exceptions.


    How do you think we should reduce HIV transmission rates?


    Education is the best tool we have, not all men will be careful, but there will be a good amount who do choose to play safely and that will got a long way to reducing transmission.
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    Nov 29, 2013 4:05 AM GMT
    Education is not helping I think. If you said some remote village in Africa needs education on HIV/AIDs, I would understand.

    When you look at Western countries such as Canada, USA, UK and Europe with increases in infection, yet these cultures suppose to be the most educated about the virus, even if its just the basics, yet, they still engage in promiscuity, unprotected sex, education is obviously not the answer.

    If there is to be education, it needs to come down to, do you value your life being a healthy long one? Or do you prefer a life of medication just to live?

    I think that's what has been lost, the value in ones own self. Self worth!

    As noted earlier in a post, some gay men come out of traumatic experiences. If you are especially coming from a conservative background where you have spent most of your life in the closet, you have bottled up and hid your sexuality, you finally escape to a more accepting city, thriving gay community, you might feel like you have survived for too long and just want to live for the moment a little and becoming promiscuous and having unsafe sex can become a part of that liberation. Its a liberation though can end up destroying all that you have worked to live for.
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    Dec 01, 2013 4:01 PM GMT
    it might help if the fast test was ubiquitous, free, and self help. just something you do every month
  • Koaa2

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    Dec 01, 2013 8:57 PM GMT
    Solomono said
    Koaa2 saidAll men are sluts, not just gay men. In no way will gay marriage prevent HIV,it may perpetuate it, because they will feel trapped, and go out to get laid on a whim and lust, just like straight men do. There is no one answer, and the people who hate gay men because of HIV, will always hate them.


    Nobody is trapping no one.

    If you don't want a monogamous relationship just say so, and don't pretend you want one .

    No matter how long I've been with a guy I will civilly respect his decision to leave me if he is bored with me, i will gladly take that instead of him cheating on me and jeopardizing my health.

    He cannot have me plus others. It's only me or others. Can I at least have this right?



    People feel trapped all the time in some relationships. Usually those that have insecure non communicative partners. Just because someone has desires and wants to fuck another person, does not mean the relationship is a failure.
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    Dec 05, 2013 11:12 AM GMT
    http://www.wnd.com/2013/12/top-doctor-gay-blood-will-taint-u-s-supply/

    "Should homosexual men – a group with the highest HIV-infection rates in the nation – be allowed to donate blood? That’s the question the federal government is considering this week as it re-evaluates whether it should lift the 30-year ban on homosexual blood donation."


    If gay men keep getting HIV, then no wonder they don't want gay men's blood.
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    Mar 04, 2014 12:50 AM GMT
    http://www.ny1.com/content/lifestyles/health/203853/hiv-rate-among-black-and-latino-gay-men-continues-to-rise

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-staley/gay-on-gay-shaming-the-new-hiv-war_b_4856233.html

    Gay men are on the road to self-destruction. How ironic.
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    Mar 06, 2014 10:06 AM GMT
    http://www.advocate.com/print-issue/current-issue/2014/03/03/can-san-francisco-become-first-aids-free-city?page=full

    "The city that was once the deadly AIDS epicenter of the world is now striving to be AIDS-free. What does that mean, and why is San Francisco poised to achieve this goal the way no other American city could?"

    End suffering by using condoms. Enjoy life by knowing.