PIZZA HUT MANAGER STAND UP FOR HIS WORKERS

  • hebrewman

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    Nov 28, 2013 1:52 AM GMT
    i admire this man for standing up to his franchise owner.
    not bad looking either. icon_biggrin.gif


    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/pizza-hut-manager-refuses-open-thanksgiving-forced-resign-article-1.1531530
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    Nov 28, 2013 2:14 AM GMT
    On a related topic, I just learned today that three states keep stores closed on Thanksgiving.
    http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=21022394
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:17 PM GMT
    I find it ironic that why a store cant close 2 days a yr. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Its not like there going bankrupt if they close... After all, there open everyday the rest of the year. they can afford to close for those 2 days.

    If some asshole really needs to eat pizza on thanksgiving??? REALLY?? Get a life...
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:02 PM GMT
    davidingeorgia saidI find it ironic that why a store cant close 2 days a yr. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Its not like there going bankrupt if they close... After all, there open everyday the rest of the year. they can afford to close for those 2 days.

    If some asshole really needs to eat pizza on thanksgiving??? REALLY?? Get a life...


    Retailers care too much about making a profit and feeling that they're going to miss out. As for the asshole who needs to order pizza on Thanksgiving, it's all about choice but I do agree with you.....it's rather pathetic!
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:40 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]thebearerofbadnews said[/cite]that's that new slavery right there.

    Don't get me wrong , what this bloke did is exemplary , but i will add that when you make the choice to work in the hospitality field , you have to expect to work on holidays .. It is the same in my field of work ...
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:53 PM GMT
    Hospitality, cleaning, retail - all sectors where the labour force get treated like crap, and best avoided (if possible).
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:59 PM GMT
    neffa said[quote][cite]thebearerofbadnews said[/cite]that's that new slavery right there.

    Don't get me wrong , what this bloke did is exemplary , but i will add that when you make the choice to work in the hospitality field , you have to expect to work on holidays .. It is the same in my field of work ...


    my crew and i are on a 19hr layover in boston. nice hotel. our sign in was at 1000 and we arrived here at 1315. we don't go out until 0800 friday. the company did provide a 'lunch snack' in the galley, but, it's really not a supper type meal. here at the hotel, they actually had a 'crew special'. not bad. but, i have had layovers on christmas that nothing was open for us. when i first started flying, i actually went to the lunch counter at a truck stop across the street from the hotel to have dinner. not 5 star, but, the meal was good and inexpensive. i ate there every time i had a buffalo, ny layover. so, it would be nice to have a place open, but, i laud this man for standing up to corp. greed.
  • Whipmagic

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    Nov 29, 2013 2:58 AM GMT
    I just read that he got re-hired by his Pizza Hut franchise. Apparently the main company didn't like the publicity of this and leaned on the franchise owner.
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    Nov 29, 2013 3:03 AM GMT
    Are any other fast food places open on Thanksgiving? McDonalds, KFC, Burger King, etc?
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    Nov 29, 2013 11:46 AM GMT
    All Pizza Hut cares about is the bottom line like any corp.

    At the end of the day if they close on Thanksgiving they lose money, they don't give two fucks if their employees have family commitments, (except when they get bad publicity in the press) it's all about chasing profits.

    If people hate the practice so much in America why don't they stop buying stuff on Thanksgiving ?

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 29, 2013 1:39 PM GMT
    Nice effort by the guy and admire his convictions, but not sure this was the best path to follow in arguing his views.
    He is getting some valuable attention, however.
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    Nov 29, 2013 2:17 PM GMT
    thebearerofbadnews saidwhen i was working @ a fast food spot, we used to have folks getting MAD @ the fact that we closed early on christmas eve. they would try to open the door and realize when that we were close, they would give us an attitude. then to now that the owners of the joint were all busy chilling with their families while WE had to be there. SO disrespectful.


    I understand the point of view of the fast food worker who'd rather be at home, but I also understand the person who gets upset because the restaurant closes early.

    When I lived in San Francisco, Thanksgiving and Christmas were the saddest holidays. So many people, especially young ones, couldn't go home to their families. The restaurants in the Castro were mostly open, because there was money to be made, of course, but also because it was a sort of civic duty.

    The person that gets upset at a fast food place closing early might just be the person who realized there is nowhere left to go.
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    Nov 29, 2013 5:16 PM GMT


    So....do any of them get extra pay for working on Thanksgiving? They should, in lieu of getting the day off.
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    Nov 29, 2013 5:40 PM GMT
    Ohno saidHospitality, cleaning, retail - all sectors where the labour force get treated like crap, and best avoided (if possible).

    True that.
    Everybody should have to work with the public at some point to gain a little empathy.

    There's a lot of righteous indignation about stores opening on a holiday, but they wouldn't do it if there wasn't a demand for them to open.
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    Nov 29, 2013 5:51 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    So....do any of them get extra pay for working on Thanksgiving? They should, in lieu of getting the day off.


    i agree, workers should at least get the option of recieveing a higher wage for holiday working hours

    that being said, it does makes sense that not every store closes on holidays cause that's when most people will be off work and shopping, causing the most profit for stores which remain open.

    i suppose it's not such a black and white argument, but what that man did is very courageous and not many people would stand up for their employees that way. i find that really awesome!
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    Nov 29, 2013 6:09 PM GMT
    NightwingDoctor said
    meninlove said

    So....do any of them get extra pay for working on Thanksgiving? They should, in lieu of getting the day off.


    i agree, workers should at least get the option of recieveing a higher wage for holiday working hours

    that being said, it does makes sense that not every store closes on holidays cause that's when most people will be off work and shopping, causing the most profit for stores which remain open.

    i suppose it's not such a black and white argument, but what that man did is very courageous and not many people would stand up for their employees that way. i find that really awesome!


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    Nov 29, 2013 8:19 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    So....do any of them get extra pay for working on Thanksgiving? They should, in lieu of getting the day off.


    When i worked at KFC, i got no extra money for working on a holiday.
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    Nov 29, 2013 8:28 PM GMT
    Whipmagic saidI just read that he got re-hired by his Pizza Hut franchise. Apparently the main company didn't like the publicity of this and leaned on the franchise owner.

    And they'll probably fire him again in a month or so after this blows over.
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    Nov 29, 2013 9:09 PM GMT
    What I find disappointing about this is that it's really a non-issue but the news media manages to manipulate the public and whip people into a fury over it.

    How many other businesses do you think are open on Thanksgiving? I can think of several; gas stations, 7-11s/convenience stores, grocery stores (some may close in the afternoon, some may not), and liquor stores.

    Do you think the public will be outraged if it's pointed out to them that those places are open on Thanksgiving? Of course not.

    So what's so special about Pizza Hut? Because people are thinking that there isn't any reason to buy pizza on Thanksgiving. But there could be people who decide to go to the park and play catch while mom's at home making supper and it's hours before supper so they get a pizza on the way. Or the people working at gas stations, 7-11s, etc. need to get lunch.

    (I like to rant about the news media creating news from stupid crap but it's really the public that's the culprit. But it's easier and more politically correct to blame the news media.)
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    Nov 29, 2013 9:22 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidWhat I find disappointing about this is that it's really a non-issue but the news media manages to manipulate the public and whip people into a fury over it.

    How many other businesses do you think are open on Thanksgiving? I can think of several; gas stations, 7-11s/convenience stores, grocery stores (some may close in the afternoon, some may not), and liquor stores.

    Do you think the public will be outraged if it's pointed out to them that those places are open on Thanksgiving? Of course not.

    So what's so special about Pizza Hut? Because people are thinking that there isn't any reason to buy pizza on Thanksgiving. But there could be people who decide to go to the park and play catch while mom's at home making supper and it's hours before supper so they get a pizza on the way. Or the people working at gas stations, 7-11s, etc. need to get lunch.

    (I like to rant about the news media creating news from stupid crap but it's really the public that's the culprit. But it's easier and more politically correct to blame the news media.)



    Agreed. Let's not forget everyone who signs on for a job in retail, food, beverage etc. SIGNS an agreement to work on Holidays, nights, etc.

    How many of you boys stopped by a Gay Bar last night?

    Granted, who wants a pizza on Thanksgiving (I bet they were dead and the manager thought it pointless) but if the owners didn't want it closed, it should stay open.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 29, 2013 9:30 PM GMT
    In general, retail workers and food industry workers are shit on because they have no union, or fair pay, or healthcare, and to make matters worse they are told by the elite that they don't have real jobs, or that they have unskilled jobs, and so many of these gainfully employed people have to take food stamps just to subsidize their paycheck. That is socially and morally wrong, and people who take those things for granted, or are indifferent, need to recognize that it's about justice and equality. Someone mentioned it's their civic duty to stay open. It should be their civic duty to pay a fair wage to begin with.

    A lot of companies pay time and a half for working holidays. I think it should be double time, and I think it should be the law. Because, face it, hospital workers, police, and the infrastructure that keeps them going needs to function 24/7. Retailers are just one employer that stays open on the holidays, and they are also the lowest paying employer, which makes it worse.

    My grandma was a nurse and nurse's got paid more for working on Christmas (I think it was actually triple time, which is awesome), and my family celebrated together on Christmas Eve and continues to celebrate on Christmas Eve, even after grandma retired, because it is now a family tradition.
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    Nov 29, 2013 9:55 PM GMT
    davidingeorgia saidI find it ironic that why a store cant close 2 days a yr. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Its not like there going bankrupt if they close... After all, there open everyday the rest of the year. they can afford to close for those 2 days.

    If some asshole really needs to eat pizza on thanksgiving??? REALLY?? Get a life...



    I agree wholeheartedly.
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    Nov 29, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
    davidingeorgia saidI find it ironic that why a store cant close 2 days a yr. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Its not like there going bankrupt if they close... After all, there open everyday the rest of the year. they can afford to close for those 2 days.

    If some asshole really needs to eat pizza on thanksgiving??? REALLY?? Get a life...
    Why did Macy's and several other retailers need to open at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Dayicon_question.gif
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    Nov 29, 2013 10:05 PM GMT
    So he tried to deprive his low-paid employees of a day's pay? What a hero.
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    Nov 29, 2013 10:16 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    davidingeorgia saidI find it ironic that why a store cant close 2 days a yr. Thanksgiving and Christmas. Its not like there going bankrupt if they close... After all, there open everyday the rest of the year. they can afford to close for those 2 days.

    If some asshole really needs to eat pizza on thanksgiving??? REALLY?? Get a life...
    Why did Macy's and several other retailers need to open at 8 PM on Thanksgiving Dayicon_question.gif


    The answer would be in the fact that was just on NPR. An estimated 15,000 people stood in line for MACYS (NYC) to open at 8pm last night.